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  • bucs44
    Pro
    • Jul 2002
    • 742

    #1

    LOOKS like 2004 maybe year to pick up baseball

    This year doesn't look too special.
    WSB--the best out of the bunch BUT lacking scaled players,online play,intriguing fatigue system, improved pitcher/batter interface,more atmosphere--specific team chants,animated scoreboard,better commentators

    MVP--good start (meter pitching/batting duel), good intervene franchise mode but LACKING sliders --speed, arm strength,etc, online play,more sim aspects,behind pitcher view,better player heads-"bobblehead" effect still-animated scoreboard

    HH--gameplay realistic but graphics just KILL it compared to other games out

    IP--first effort look to have good features--Joe Buck, online play,rip own music,animated scoreboard,team specific chants,excellent stadiums,grass,etc BUT lacks good player models,Gameplay seems it may present a problem--needs to go more sim, franchise mode,

    Next year may be the year that a game or 2 may be worth owning.

    If IP can get the gameplay down with some MVP type meter pitching/batting,fatigue/injury system similar to ID,sliders and franchise mode--online could be a great one.

    If WSB gets players scaled right,adds online franchise, more team specific chants,more excitement in atmosphere,adds meter type pitching/batting interface,franchise mode similar to MVP and less arcade elements it will be tough to beat.

    If MVP adds sliders,less arade elements, fatigue system similar to ID,behind pitcher view,better "heads",animated scoreboards, team specific chants, speed relative throughout game,online franchise it will run for champ.

    If HH can compete for graphics,sound with these other games IT will win.
  • Comp625
    Rookie
    • Mar 2003
    • 477

    #2
    Re: LOOKS like 2004 maybe year to pick up baseball

    While I kind of agree with you about 2004 being the year for baseball games, I think most of the features that are lacking with WSB are too minor to affect gameplay.

    WSB lacks...
    scaled players - I dunno, I didn't notice this last near nor this year. I came from playing HH2k2 where player models were horrendous. So this isn't a biggie to me at all.
    intriguing fatigue system - ??? Elaborate
    improved P/B interface - I like how I can choose between cursor or no-cursor (HH style). I do like MVP's meters but like I said in another post (on the Pro Baseball forums), MVP's meters were just introduced this year and will be present in future baseball games.
    more atmosphere - I think the atmosphere will be better this year (though commentating last year always "lagged" behind what's happening on the screen)

    As for High Heat, if you have a decent computer, get it for PC. The PC lets you download and install community created modifications to the game (which make the game more realistic -- new animations, new advertisements, etc.)

    MVP is sorely lacking in features this year (like bullpen warmup) and the talk of the "RF to 1B" bug thing worries me.

    So you didn't even talk about ASB2004.

    As for my initial comment about 2004 being the year, that's what I say every year. Then the next year, I still get disappointed. Plus, a year is too long of a time NOT to play a baseball game. Mind as well entertain myself this year instead of saying NEXT YEAR, every year.

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    • Comp625
      Rookie
      • Mar 2003
      • 477

      #3
      Re: LOOKS like 2004 maybe year to pick up baseball

      While I kind of agree with you about 2004 being the year for baseball games, I think most of the features that are lacking with WSB are too minor to affect gameplay.

      WSB lacks...
      scaled players - I dunno, I didn't notice this last near nor this year. I came from playing HH2k2 where player models were horrendous. So this isn't a biggie to me at all.
      intriguing fatigue system - ??? Elaborate
      improved P/B interface - I like how I can choose between cursor or no-cursor (HH style). I do like MVP's meters but like I said in another post (on the Pro Baseball forums), MVP's meters were just introduced this year and will be present in future baseball games.
      more atmosphere - I think the atmosphere will be better this year (though commentating last year always "lagged" behind what's happening on the screen)

      As for High Heat, if you have a decent computer, get it for PC. The PC lets you download and install community created modifications to the game (which make the game more realistic -- new animations, new advertisements, etc.)

      MVP is sorely lacking in features this year (like bullpen warmup) and the talk of the "RF to 1B" bug thing worries me.

      So you didn't even talk about ASB2004.

      As for my initial comment about 2004 being the year, that's what I say every year. Then the next year, I still get disappointed. Plus, a year is too long of a time NOT to play a baseball game. Mind as well entertain myself this year instead of saying NEXT YEAR, every year.

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      • **DONOTDELETE**
        Hall Of Fame
        • Oct 2025
        • 19598

        #4
        Re: LOOKS like 2004 maybe year to pick up baseball

        comp625,
        no cursor in wsb is not HH style. its on;ly timing based.
        also what rf to 1b bug in mvp are you talking about?

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        • **DONOTDELETE**
          Hall Of Fame
          • Oct 2025
          • 19598

          #5
          Re: LOOKS like 2004 maybe year to pick up baseball

          comp625,
          no cursor in wsb is not HH style. its on;ly timing based.
          also what rf to 1b bug in mvp are you talking about?

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          • sven
            Banned
            • Jul 2002
            • 6021

            #6
            Re: LOOKS like 2004 maybe year to pick up baseball

            I just cant get into baseball games. Pitching is always the most tedious thing to do in any genre of game.

            Too bad SNK is out of business. I want a Baseball Stars sequel.

            Maybe MVP will be diffrent enough to get me interested.

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            • sven
              Banned
              • Jul 2002
              • 6021

              #7
              Re: LOOKS like 2004 maybe year to pick up baseball

              I just cant get into baseball games. Pitching is always the most tedious thing to do in any genre of game.

              Too bad SNK is out of business. I want a Baseball Stars sequel.

              Maybe MVP will be diffrent enough to get me interested.

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              • FWhite
                Pro
                • Aug 2002
                • 477

                #8
                Re: LOOKS like 2004 maybe year to pick up baseball

                what about ASB04 no one ever talks about this like this game ain't even out

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                • FWhite
                  Pro
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 477

                  #9
                  Re: LOOKS like 2004 maybe year to pick up baseball

                  what about ASB04 no one ever talks about this like this game ain't even out

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                  • JRod
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 3266

                    #10
                    Re: LOOKS like 2004 maybe year to pick up baseball

                    MVP really isn't a first year title. I'm sure most of the code is different from Triple Play but it's not as if they are starting from almost scratch in the case of inside pitch which is probably using some code from Microdoft baseball.

                    The thing about MVP is that while it's a new title it's not like it's a first generation title. That's why i think it could steal the show. Plus if it's fun with not too many quirks I might be playing that instead of WSB or HH.

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                    • JRod
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 3266

                      #11
                      Re: LOOKS like 2004 maybe year to pick up baseball

                      MVP really isn't a first year title. I'm sure most of the code is different from Triple Play but it's not as if they are starting from almost scratch in the case of inside pitch which is probably using some code from Microdoft baseball.

                      The thing about MVP is that while it's a new title it's not like it's a first generation title. That's why i think it could steal the show. Plus if it's fun with not too many quirks I might be playing that instead of WSB or HH.

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                      • bucs44
                        Pro
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 742

                        #12
                        Re: LOOKS like 2004 maybe year to pick up baseball

                        Actually after watching movies of mvp it could steal the show this year.
                        As long as there are no quirks, or speed issues with throws and running etc

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                        • bucs44
                          Pro
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 742

                          #13
                          Re: LOOKS like 2004 maybe year to pick up baseball

                          Actually after watching movies of mvp it could steal the show this year.
                          As long as there are no quirks, or speed issues with throws and running etc

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                          • GameDude
                            Rookie
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 388

                            #14
                            Re: LOOKS like 2004 maybe year to pick up baseball

                            You know, next year's games will more than likely be better than this year's, but you could say that for any year. Maybe I shouldn't play this year's Madden because next year's will be better. Sheesh.

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                            • GameDude
                              Rookie
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 388

                              #15
                              Re: LOOKS like 2004 maybe year to pick up baseball

                              You know, next year's games will more than likely be better than this year's, but you could say that for any year. Maybe I shouldn't play this year's Madden because next year's will be better. Sheesh.

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