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Re: Yankee hall of famer miffed at Joba
I really don't understand this.. I understand taunting is not allowed (see Manny's "watch me look forever at my HR" stuff), but is it not allowed for players to show emotion?
Now, if he did it for every batter, there would be an issue.. -
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I think the Goose makes a lot of good points especially the "that's not the Yankee Way" point he made. I'm glad i'm not the only one who feels that hitters today are soft. Some of things they get pissed over would barely cause a ripple 30 years ago.Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club
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Even if Joba was showing up opponents, which he isn't, I don't see anything wrong with flaunting your stuff if you can back it up... if every athlete just puts on a blank face after a big play, sports would be boring as hell to watch.Comment
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It's not like Joba is the only one doing it either. I know on the Red Sox Papelbon and Beckett pump their fist all the time when they get a big strikeout. Hitters also do the same thing by watching their HR's. It's just a part of the game today.Comment
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Goose sounds like a grumpy old man. I see nothing wrong with they way Joba acts.Comment
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With that kind of name, you'd think his signature celebration would resemble more of a mouth gesture... but either is cool for me.
Honestly, pitchers don't show enough emotion, at least when compared to hitters. I think they should be able to fist-pump if hitters are able to bat-flip.Samsung PN60F8500 PDP / Anthem MRX 720 / Klipsch RC-62 II / Klipsch RF-82 II (x2) / Insignia NS-B2111 (x2) / SVS PC13-Ultra / SVS SB-2000 / Sony MDR-7506 Professional / Audio-Technica ATH-R70x / Sony PS3 & PS4 / DirecTV HR44-500 / DarbeeVision DVP-5000 / Panamax M5400-PM / Elgato HD60Comment
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Re: Yankee hall of famer miffed at Joba
Gossage is plain wrong.
I'm all for Joba doing this, so long as he isn't going one on one with any batter.
I don't see what's wrong with showing emotion and passion. Players feed off that kind of energy so I can only see it helping.
I remember seeing Valverde fist pump and celebrate last year, and loving it.Originally posted by CardsFan27This is the 3rd time John Calipari has been to his first Final Four!What I'm Currently Listening ToComment
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Do pitchers in the AL have to come up and take at bats after they do something like this? Nope.
If a hitter does something like that, he's getting drilled during his next at bat...it's stupid and it's hypocritical.Patrick Mahomes > GodComment
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Who the hell cares? It's a professional sport with a lot on the line most of the time - if you don't act like that maybe you should get your pulse checked or ask yourself if you still love the game. I never complained about Papelbon doing it the last few years and I certainly don't care that Joba does it. Very rarely do I feel baseball players are trying to show up the other team.
Players celebrate worse than either of the two above after every play in the NFL and the NBA has it's fair share of celebrating too. This "holier than thou" attitude that baseball elitists have is ********. "That's not the way the game is meant to be played." Screw that, as Big Hurt said, if you don't want a pitcher to do a fist pump after he strikes you out, don't let him strike you out.
And that's coming from one of the bigger babies to play baseball in recent history."You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier
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I watch quite a bit of baseball and I rarely, if ever see this happen anymore. Hell, Manny Ramirez flips his bat and stands at homeplate when he hits doubles, let alone HR's. The players policing themselves just doesn't happen anymore because they get suspended if they do.Comment
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I watch quite a bit of baseball and I rarely, if ever see this happen anymore. Hell, Manny Ramirez flips his bat and stands at homeplate when he hits doubles, let alone HR's. The players policing themselves just doesn't happen anymore because they get suspended if they do."You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier
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I watch quite a bit of baseball and I rarely, if ever see this happen anymore. Hell, Manny Ramirez flips his bat and stands at homeplate when he hits doubles, let alone HR's. The players policing themselves just doesn't happen anymore because they get suspended if they do.
You know what that does? It takes a whole facet of pitching away from the pitcher. I'm not advocating bean ball wars. I'm talking about the inside strike, moving guys off the plate and if the situation warrants it even plunking guys on purpose for stupidity.
I remember when Danny Darwin was with the Expos and some guy (I forget who) hit a huge HR against him and stared at it. The next at bat Darwin plunked him and caused a huge kerfuffle as there was a bench clearing brawl.
Hitters today are pampered WAAAY too much.Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club
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Hitters bat up again and they don't get drilled for watching their homeruns.
They celebrate with their teammates at the plate and no one drills them when they come back up.
Players clap on the basepaths and even smile and no one is throwing a baseball at their head.
I hate this argument about pitchers not hitting and that's why it's not the same. Pitchers don't do much different from hitters when it's time to celebrate. The only reason people get all worked up over it is because it's become socially acceptable to celebrate over offense but it's deemed disrespectful to celebrate over a defensive stop.
It's the same thing we hear everytime a lineman celebrates a sack. You hear dumb quarterbacks saying, "Act like you've done it before." Yet, you never hear that QB say anything about his wide receiver jumping into the stands after a touch down catch or him raising his right hand, with an index finger erect, and pumping his fist in celebration.
That's hypocritical."It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace
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