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  • Howie75
    Commitment to Excellence
    • Jul 2002
    • 1992

    #46
    Re: Already back to playing ASB

    I bought WSB also, and whlie I like it, I find myself going back to ASB as well.

    I like cartain things about WSB..fielding is responsive and fun, and the dive actually is actually functional. I like the way the pitching cursor works, and enjoy pitching. Being able to adjust the pitch velocity is a good thing, and WSB has a tremendous amount of files to customize (as does HH2004).

    The player editor is great in WSB, and I don't mind the batting cursor as much as others do.

    Now for the bad...the commentary in ASB is head and shoulders above WSB. Not only is Ted Robinson's vocal tenor somewhat annoying, but the commentary is very droll, and lags in exchanges between Robinson and Hudler (the color commentator). Acclaim really aced this one in my opinion, as the commentary is the best of any baseball game IMO. I was actually surprised that WSB was so lacking, given that Visual Concepts did such an excellent job with NFL 2k3.

    Hitting in WSB just feels a little strange to me. It's hard to explain, but the bat seems like a stickball bat, and the swing animation just seems a little bit awkward.

    A stated earlier, I enjoy pitching, but I was disturbed to see a 10 to 15 MPH drop in pitch velocity when a pitcher gets tired ). No way Roy Oswalt starts throwing 83 MPH fastballs in the 9th inning of a 4 hit shutout. No way. A pitcher gets tired, he loses some velocity, some command but not that much. Perhaps this can be addressed via sliders or editing.

    ASB does so many of the little things right to replicate baseball, that it is hard to stay away from it.

    I played HH2003 on the PS2 last year, after playing ASB on the N64, and 2001 on the PS2. l really enjoyed it and it's realism, but I went back to ASB this year. I will still give WSB some playing time, but I only have the time and energy to run one franchise and it appears this year it will be on ASB.

    My only concern has been trying to find a batting mode I can use and get reasonable statistics. I started off with classic, and while I enjoy it, I find almost all of my hits go to CF or one of the gaps. I cannot pull or push the ball down either line.

    I tried switching to the regular cursor with exaggerated pitching and I think that it might be the way to go. Based on batting practice and minimal exhibtion play here are my findings;

    - you can hit the ball to all fields, but have to aim the cursor to do so. This is not very realistic, but I guess I can live with it. Hitters do try to hit the ball to certain areas in certain situations, but no one goes to the plate and aims to pull the ball down the 3rd baseline regardless of the pitch.
    Its not possible (at least given my reflexes) to aim the cursor while swinging at a particular pitch, so you have to predetermine where you want the ball to go.

    - you can hit HR without using the power icon. If you aim slightly up and manage to get the sweet spot on the ball you can homer. This is very good, as it seems to hit varying line drives with the occasional HR mixed in. You can still swing for the fences with the power icon, but the majority of homeruns are hit with average swings, not loading up for the all or nothing hack.

    I hope this will produce some good numbers, and some hit variety.

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    • Howie75
      Commitment to Excellence
      • Jul 2002
      • 1992

      #47
      Re: Already back to playing ASB

      I bought WSB also, and whlie I like it, I find myself going back to ASB as well.

      I like cartain things about WSB..fielding is responsive and fun, and the dive actually is actually functional. I like the way the pitching cursor works, and enjoy pitching. Being able to adjust the pitch velocity is a good thing, and WSB has a tremendous amount of files to customize (as does HH2004).

      The player editor is great in WSB, and I don't mind the batting cursor as much as others do.

      Now for the bad...the commentary in ASB is head and shoulders above WSB. Not only is Ted Robinson's vocal tenor somewhat annoying, but the commentary is very droll, and lags in exchanges between Robinson and Hudler (the color commentator). Acclaim really aced this one in my opinion, as the commentary is the best of any baseball game IMO. I was actually surprised that WSB was so lacking, given that Visual Concepts did such an excellent job with NFL 2k3.

      Hitting in WSB just feels a little strange to me. It's hard to explain, but the bat seems like a stickball bat, and the swing animation just seems a little bit awkward.

      A stated earlier, I enjoy pitching, but I was disturbed to see a 10 to 15 MPH drop in pitch velocity when a pitcher gets tired ). No way Roy Oswalt starts throwing 83 MPH fastballs in the 9th inning of a 4 hit shutout. No way. A pitcher gets tired, he loses some velocity, some command but not that much. Perhaps this can be addressed via sliders or editing.

      ASB does so many of the little things right to replicate baseball, that it is hard to stay away from it.

      I played HH2003 on the PS2 last year, after playing ASB on the N64, and 2001 on the PS2. l really enjoyed it and it's realism, but I went back to ASB this year. I will still give WSB some playing time, but I only have the time and energy to run one franchise and it appears this year it will be on ASB.

      My only concern has been trying to find a batting mode I can use and get reasonable statistics. I started off with classic, and while I enjoy it, I find almost all of my hits go to CF or one of the gaps. I cannot pull or push the ball down either line.

      I tried switching to the regular cursor with exaggerated pitching and I think that it might be the way to go. Based on batting practice and minimal exhibtion play here are my findings;

      - you can hit the ball to all fields, but have to aim the cursor to do so. This is not very realistic, but I guess I can live with it. Hitters do try to hit the ball to certain areas in certain situations, but no one goes to the plate and aims to pull the ball down the 3rd baseline regardless of the pitch.
      Its not possible (at least given my reflexes) to aim the cursor while swinging at a particular pitch, so you have to predetermine where you want the ball to go.

      - you can hit HR without using the power icon. If you aim slightly up and manage to get the sweet spot on the ball you can homer. This is very good, as it seems to hit varying line drives with the occasional HR mixed in. You can still swing for the fences with the power icon, but the majority of homeruns are hit with average swings, not loading up for the all or nothing hack.

      I hope this will produce some good numbers, and some hit variety.

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      • LetsGoPitt
        Cr*m*n*lly *nd*rr*t*d
        • Jul 2002
        • 5673

        #48
        Re: Already back to playing ASB

        I never left

        And in other news, I just pitched 8 innings for the win in my first major league start

        I don't normally create myself, but I couldn't deal with Jeff Suppan anymore.
        “In my lifetime, we've gone from Eisenhower to George W. Bush. We've gone from John F. Kennedy to Al Gore. If this is evolution, I believe that in twelve years, we'll be voting for plants.” - Lewis Black

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        • LetsGoPitt
          Cr*m*n*lly *nd*rr*t*d
          • Jul 2002
          • 5673

          #49
          Re: Already back to playing ASB

          I never left

          And in other news, I just pitched 8 innings for the win in my first major league start

          I don't normally create myself, but I couldn't deal with Jeff Suppan anymore.
          “In my lifetime, we've gone from Eisenhower to George W. Bush. We've gone from John F. Kennedy to Al Gore. If this is evolution, I believe that in twelve years, we'll be voting for plants.” - Lewis Black

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          • nikeford
            Pro
            • Feb 2003
            • 505

            #50
            Re: Already back to playing ASB

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            I am back too.

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            Good to have you back, bro.
            I tried MVP for 15 minutes....ugh, ASB is my favorite game, still it has a couple of quirks, but its so deep and fun, I know we just got the game, but can you imagine what next years version could be? With all the features already in place....add online play, clean up the gameplay a little bit, add some new animations ....BOOM, you have the best baseball game ever put out, period.

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            • nikeford
              Pro
              • Feb 2003
              • 505

              #51
              Re: Already back to playing ASB

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              I am back too.

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              Good to have you back, bro.
              I tried MVP for 15 minutes....ugh, ASB is my favorite game, still it has a couple of quirks, but its so deep and fun, I know we just got the game, but can you imagine what next years version could be? With all the features already in place....add online play, clean up the gameplay a little bit, add some new animations ....BOOM, you have the best baseball game ever put out, period.

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              • SpartyGreen
                Rookie
                • Feb 2003
                • 183

                #52
                Re: Already back to playing ASB

                *** you can hit the ball to all fields, but have to aim the cursor to do so. This is not very realistic, but I guess I can live with it. Hitters do try to hit the ball to certain areas in certain situations, but no one goes to the plate and aims to pull the ball down the 3rd baseline regardless of the pitch.
                Its not possible (at least given my reflexes) to aim the cursor while swinging at a particular pitch, so you have to predetermine where you want the ball to go. ***

                I have not found this to be true. I have hit balls down both lines, in the gaps, on the ground to all fielders, etc., and I have never touched the right thumbstick. It just depends on where the normal cursor is when you hit the ball, where in the zone the ball is, and your timing.

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                • SpartyGreen
                  Rookie
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 183

                  #53
                  Re: Already back to playing ASB

                  *** you can hit the ball to all fields, but have to aim the cursor to do so. This is not very realistic, but I guess I can live with it. Hitters do try to hit the ball to certain areas in certain situations, but no one goes to the plate and aims to pull the ball down the 3rd baseline regardless of the pitch.
                  Its not possible (at least given my reflexes) to aim the cursor while swinging at a particular pitch, so you have to predetermine where you want the ball to go. ***

                  I have not found this to be true. I have hit balls down both lines, in the gaps, on the ground to all fielders, etc., and I have never touched the right thumbstick. It just depends on where the normal cursor is when you hit the ball, where in the zone the ball is, and your timing.

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                  • Howie75
                    Commitment to Excellence
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 1992

                    #54
                    Re: Already back to playing ASB

                    Cool..like I said I based those assumptions on a limited amount of play. I am glad to hear that. I would prefer not to aim the cursor.

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                    • Howie75
                      Commitment to Excellence
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 1992

                      #55
                      Re: Already back to playing ASB

                      Cool..like I said I based those assumptions on a limited amount of play. I am glad to hear that. I would prefer not to aim the cursor.

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                      • snoopy2k2
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 224

                        #56
                        Re: Already back to playing ASB

                        Guess who's back...back again...snoop is back...tell a friend...I liked ASB last year but this year its got my vote fo best all around baseball game of the year.

                        I bought WSB tonight and rented ASB...I think that I will be taking WSB back and trading it in for ASB instead...there is jus something about ASB that seems complete...more polished...and the gameplay isn't horrible...just a bit drag and boring at times...but thats how baseball is at times...ASB 2004 jus edges the competition this year, WSB is great but it just seems incomplete in some aspects...I just can't put my finger on what it is though.

                        I'M BACK

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                        • snoopy2k2
                          Rookie
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 224

                          #57
                          Re: Already back to playing ASB

                          Guess who's back...back again...snoop is back...tell a friend...I liked ASB last year but this year its got my vote fo best all around baseball game of the year.

                          I bought WSB tonight and rented ASB...I think that I will be taking WSB back and trading it in for ASB instead...there is jus something about ASB that seems complete...more polished...and the gameplay isn't horrible...just a bit drag and boring at times...but thats how baseball is at times...ASB 2004 jus edges the competition this year, WSB is great but it just seems incomplete in some aspects...I just can't put my finger on what it is though.

                          I'M BACK

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                          • 3rdAnswer
                            Regular Cat Records®
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 10845

                            #58
                            Re: Already back to playing ASB

                            I never left either. For a while, I was skeptical, and was thinking about turning this game in for a different game because I thought that some how, some way, another game would be bettter.

                            I'm sticking with ASB.

                            One time, in a game with the Phillies and the Marlins, Jimmy Rollins made a sweet diving catch. Then Lyons went on a 3 inning discussion with Thom (whatever) about AROD, and how he is probably the best player in the league. This mirrors real-life very well..
                            -Jay Illestrate, Emcee/Producer/Graphic Artist
                            www.REGULARCATRECORDS.COM
                            New York Giants - Duke Blue Devils - Charlotte Hornets - San Antonio Spurs

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                            • 3rdAnswer
                              Regular Cat Records®
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 10845

                              #59
                              Re: Already back to playing ASB

                              I never left either. For a while, I was skeptical, and was thinking about turning this game in for a different game because I thought that some how, some way, another game would be bettter.

                              I'm sticking with ASB.

                              One time, in a game with the Phillies and the Marlins, Jimmy Rollins made a sweet diving catch. Then Lyons went on a 3 inning discussion with Thom (whatever) about AROD, and how he is probably the best player in the league. This mirrors real-life very well..
                              -Jay Illestrate, Emcee/Producer/Graphic Artist
                              www.REGULARCATRECORDS.COM
                              New York Giants - Duke Blue Devils - Charlotte Hornets - San Antonio Spurs

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                              • Jeff_Conine
                                Rookie
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 322

                                #60
                                Re: Already back to playing ASB

                                I guess the only remaining question is what to trade in my MVP Baseball for... Any suggestions? I just can't stay away from a game that has "Werewolves of London" in it.
                                It's pretty much my favorite animal. It's like a lion and a tiger mixed... bred for its skills in magic.

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