Thoughts On Adam Dunn?

[Brandon13]

What are your thoughts on Adam Dunn as a hitter? Good, bad? Would you want him on your team?

Just wondering because there's probably not another player in the Majors who can so easily encapsulate a person's view of baseball.

[OSUFan_88]

Re: Thoughts On Adam Dunn?

That depends on how you define hitter. If you mean power hitter, the guy is one of the best in the MLB and can make the ball go Josh Hamilton far.

If you mean as a overall hitter, i'd say he is about average or maybe even above average. He has an amazing slugging percentage, but isn't much of a contact hitter.

What you see is what you get with Dunn which is a great power hitter with a good eye but does not hit for average. His career averages kind of show that with a .247 average, 381 OBP, 521 SLUG, and a 902 OPS.

[SPTO]

Re: Thoughts On Adam Dunn?

Dunn is a more powerful Joe Carter numbers wise. I mean you have to scale down some of the power numbers because of where he plays because it's way too easy to hit the ball out of the GABP. Carter played in mostly pitchers or neutral hitting parks.

Dunn definitely has more power but less average then Carter. Also if you look at the RBI average Carter has more then Dunn. I think Dunn would be a good 4th or 5th hitter on most teams but the strikeouts would be maddening. Carter never struck out as much as Dunn has so far in his career.

[dkgojackets]

Re: Thoughts On Adam Dunn?

pretty sure there is already a big thread on this imo

[dkgojackets]

Re: Thoughts On Adam Dunn?

Dunn is a lot better than Carter. It's not just powerwise, it's 80 points of on-base percentage. Joe Carter was barely above league average hitting. Terrible OBP and a pretty standard SLG for an outfielder. Even a guy like Josh Willingham blows him out of the water.

[SPTO]

Re: Thoughts On Adam Dunn?

You're calling Carter barely above league average yet Dunn's career numbers in that department is worse. Carter also never struck out like Dunn has so far. I'd rather have Carter in the RBI slot then Dunn.

Call me stupid but that's just what I think.

[dkgojackets]

Re: Thoughts On Adam Dunn?

You're calling Carter barely above league average yet Dunn's career numbers in that department is worse.

In which department?

[snepp]

Re: Thoughts On Adam Dunn?

Dunn is a lot better than Carter. It's not just powerwise, it's 80 points of on-base percentage. Joe Carter was barely above league average hitting. Terrible OBP and a pretty standard SLG for an outfielder. Even a guy like Josh Willingham blows him out of the water.

But, but, but....the RBI's!



Joe Carter and Torii Hunter are very similar offensive players.

[snepp]

Re: Thoughts On Adam Dunn?

In which department?

The "100+ year-old stat that really isn't all that good or representative of a player's offensive contribution" department?

[SPTO]

Re: Thoughts On Adam Dunn?

Batting average.

I know I know you hate that stat

Also when it comes to Carter's OBP a lot of RBIs came from sac flies and such. I've seen a lot of Carter and I can tell you right now he was a modern day Tony Perez. There was a good 5 year stretch where Carter was one of the most feared power guys in all of MLB who could be counted on to get the big RBI when the chips were down.

Perfect example is the '93 World Series.

[snepp]

Re: Thoughts On Adam Dunn?

Perfect example is the '93 World Series.

You mean when he made an out 75% of the time?

[SPTO]

Re: Thoughts On Adam Dunn?

You mean when he made an out 75% of the time?

This is why I hate arguing with you SABR heads. No disrespect as I value your opinions but c'mon. I was talking in relation to getting big RBIs when the chips are down. You know, the HR that ended the series?

[PhantomPain]

Re: Thoughts On Adam Dunn?

Adam Dunn is the best player in the majors right now.

In order for you to truly understand this comment you will need to go to any mlb trade rumor site and see the countless amount of teams that are just trying their darndest to get Dunn in a trade. I mean it is kind of scary all the teams that are interested in the big man. All that power and high OBP has really turned some heads in the pro's and he just may well be the most sought after player right now.

It actually makes sense since he has been on FIRE lately. In the last 24 games he is batting:

.288 avg
(not that anyone in the world cares about batting avg, but I will display it anyway)
11 HR's
24 RBI's
.398 OBP
.725 SLG
1.123 OPS

Now do you see why nearly every team that wants an outfielder are knocking the Reds door down for him? Or am I wrong? Maybe the stats are correct, and they are because I just looked them up for everyone, but are teams really knocking down the door? Maybe not. Which is why it is so weird that Adam Dunn, having the hottest month of the year for him, is still not garnering much or any interest from teams. The Yanks have looked into him, but don't want to give anything up for him. The...the....well....I guess the Yanks are the only ones that have been known to actually look into acquiring Dunn.

Does that seem strange to anyone else that the stat guy's most valuable player in the world isn't garnering much interest? How can that be?

Also...this is post 1000 for me - woohoo! Do I get a cookie?. Not trying to start an Adam Dunn war again, just wanted to throw some facts out there for people that are interested. I mean why look at what 29 other teams are thinking when you can figure it all out on your own about how invaluable he is?

[dkgojackets]

Re: Thoughts On Adam Dunn?

Adam Dunn is the best player in the majors right now.

In order for you to truly understand this comment you will need to go to any mlb trade rumor site and see the countless amount of teams that are just trying their darndest to get Dunn in a trade. I mean it is kind of scary all the teams that are interested in the big man. All that power and high OBP has really turned some heads in the pro's and he just may well be the most sought after player right now.

It actually makes sense since he has been on FIRE lately. In the last 24 games he is batting:

.288 avg
(not that anyone in the world cares about batting avg, but I will display it anyway)
11 HR's
24 RBI's
.398 OBP
.725 SLG
1.123 OPS

Now do you see why nearly every team that wants an outfielder are knocking the Reds door down for him? Or am I wrong? Maybe the stats are correct, and they are because I just looked them up for everyone, but are teams really knocking down the door? Maybe not. Which is why it is so weird that Adam Dunn, having the hottest month of the year for him, is still not garnering much or any interest from teams. The Yanks have looked into him, but don't want to give anything up for him. The...the....well....I guess the Yanks are the only ones that have been known to actually look into acquiring Dunn.

Does that seem strange to anyone else that the stat guy's most valuable player in the world isn't garnering much interest? How can that be?

Also...this is post 1000 for me - woohoo! Do I get a cookie?. Not trying to start an Adam Dunn war again, just wanted to throw some facts out there for people that are interested. I mean why look at what 29 other teams are thinking when you can figure it all out on your own about how invaluable he is?

wat

[dkgojackets]

Re: Thoughts On Adam Dunn?

Batting average.

I know I know you hate that stat

Also when it comes to Carter's OBP a lot of RBIs came from sac flies and such. I've seen a lot of Carter and I can tell you right now he was a modern day Tony Perez. There was a good 5 year stretch where Carter was one of the most feared power guys in all of MLB who could be counted on to get the big RBI when the chips were down.

Perfect example is the '93 World Series.

Im not sure how that affects OBP because sac flys dont count against you. In fact, players that have lots of sac flys should have a higher OBP because what would normally be an out instead counts as nothing.

I mean I realize that one big at-bat in the postseason can change opinions of guys, and as a fan I'm sure glad Florida had Alex Gonzalez for that one walk-off homerun in the World Series. The eight seasons with an OBP under .290 not so much, and the rest of the postseason when he went 9-61 is forgettable as well, but that one at-bat was money