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  • ehh
    Hall Of Fame
    • Mar 2003
    • 28962

    #1

    Bigger disappointment in '08: Yankees or Tigers?

    Many people had the Tigers as a shoe-in for the World Series back in March. Now they're 4 games under .500 and sit in 4th place with a month to go and have virtually no shot at the post season.

    The Yankees have their worst offense in 16-years despite having a frighteningly good lineup on paper and Joba Chamberlain is the only young starter who won a single game this year. Hughes and Kennedy were a disaster and Melky Cabrera is exposed and has been demoted. They too have virtually no shot at the post season and are in danger of falling into 4th place in the AL East.

    So you do think has been the bigger disappointment and why?
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  • Sportsforever
    NL MVP
    • Mar 2005
    • 20368

    #2
    Re: Bigger disappointment in '08: Yankees or Tigers?

    Originally posted by ehh
    Many people had the Tigers as a shoe-in for the World Series back in March. Now they're 4 games under .500 and sit in 4th place with a month to go and have virtually no shot at the post season.

    The Yankees have their worst offense in 16-years despite having a frighteningly good lineup on paper and Joba Chamberlain is the only young starter who won a single game this year. Hughes and Kennedy were a disaster and Melky Cabrera is exposed and has been demoted. They too have virtually no shot at the post season and are in danger of falling into 4th place in the AL East.

    So you do think has been the bigger disappointment and why?
    Without a doubt, the Detroit Tigers. This was the team that was supposed to break 1000 runs and run away with the AL Pennant. To see them be exposed has been pretty amazing. I wasn't high on the Yanks coming in and I don't know why anyone was. They were counting on unproven pitching (Hughes/Kennedy) and geezers (Pettitte/Mussina) and I didn't think the offense was "frightening" by any stretch (outside of ARod, there isn't a great player in this lineup...yes, Jeter is on the other side now). They have been hurt by the injuries, but their slide in the standings isn't shocking at all.
    "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

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    • SPTO
      binging
      • Feb 2003
      • 68046

      #3
      Re: Bigger disappointment in '08: Yankees or Tigers?

      Easily the Tigers. They were supposed to score a record amount of runs which would mask the problems of pitching depth instead they were crap from the start.

      The Yanks were due for a rebuilding year despite what some people were telling you.
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      • fugazi
        MVP
        • Apr 2003
        • 3749

        #4
        Re: Bigger disappointment in '08: Yankees or Tigers?

        tigers...no brainer.
        Australian Rules Football...just sayin'

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        • 55
          Banned
          • Mar 2006
          • 20857

          #5
          Re: Bigger disappointment in '08: Yankees or Tigers?

          I'd say it's a push. Come to think of it, I think that Cleveland was just as big of a disappointment as Detroit was. They were supposed to battle for the division and neither one of them will even be a .500 team when all is said and done.

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          • Psyblast
            2023 National Champions
            • Jun 2003
            • 42584

            #6
            Re: Bigger disappointment in '08: Yankees or Tigers?

            Detroit. [/thread]

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            • jim416
              Banned
              • Feb 2003
              • 10606

              #7
              Re: Bigger disappointment in '08: Yankees or Tigers?

              Detroit, bwahahahahahaha! All the best money could buy.

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              • snepp
                We'll waste him too.
                • Apr 2003
                • 10007

                #8
                Re: Bigger disappointment in '08: Yankees or Tigers?

                Originally posted by Sportsforever
                This was the team that was supposed to break 1000 runs and run away with the AL Pennant.
                [nitpick]

                The only people that said they would score that many runs were sensationalist media blowhards without an ounce of analytical aptitude.

                [/nitpick]
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                • Sportsforever
                  NL MVP
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 20368

                  #9
                  Re: Bigger disappointment in '08: Yankees or Tigers?

                  Originally posted by snepp
                  [nitpick]

                  The only people that said they would score that many runs were sensationalist media blowhards without an ounce of analytical aptitude.

                  [/nitpick]
                  I agree and I didn't expect them to do that, but I thought they might match the Yanks from last year (960+)...anyway you slice it, Detroit has been disappointing.
                  "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

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                  • snepp
                    We'll waste him too.
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 10007

                    #10
                    Re: Bigger disappointment in '08: Yankees or Tigers?

                    Originally posted by Sportsforever
                    ...anyway you slice it, Detroit has been disappointing.
                    Agreed, and to the benefit of the rest of the Central.
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                    • bucksfan07
                      Pro
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 827

                      #11
                      Re: Bigger disappointment in '08: Yankees or Tigers?

                      Detroit, easily the biggest disappointment when you factor in how much money they spent on offense and how bad the team is. Will Leyland be gone by the end of the season?

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                      • CoRruPt-
                        MVP
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 1279

                        #12
                        Re: Bigger disappointment in '08: Yankees or Tigers?

                        I don't think anybody expected Detroit to regress this much in their pitching and hitting in just over a season. Easily Detroit.

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                        • Brandon13
                          All Star
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 8915

                          #13
                          Re: Bigger disappointment in '08: Yankees or Tigers?

                          Easily Detroit.

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                          • CMH
                            Making you famous
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 26203

                            #14
                            Re: Bigger disappointment in '08: Yankees or Tigers?

                            Definitely Detroit.

                            The Yankees always had question marks with the pitching staff and the age of their positional players.

                            Detroit was supposed to be the up-and-coming offensive force with a solid, young pitching staff and bullpen.
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                            • rsox
                              All Star
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 6309

                              #15
                              Re: Bigger disappointment in '08: Yankees or Tigers?

                              I don't think anyone can argue that the answer isn't the Detroit Tigers. As many have already said they were expected to produce an insane amount of runs, which didn't happen. Especially since everyone outside of Miguel Cabrera has had a down year offensively. We knew the Tigers bullpen probably was going to be their biggest weakness-which in many ways it has but the starting pitching has not been very good either.

                              Like the Braves great run of consecutive postseason appearences the Yankees run had to end sometime. I think it is mostly magnified by the fact that they are the Yankees, and that coincidently it appears to have ended with the Joe Torre era.

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