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  • sixmillion
    Rookie
    • Jan 2003
    • 140

    #1

    I Love This Game ...... how can they improve on it ?

    I ve been playing this game for the past 10 days or so now, in my franchise mode with the Yankees and I am almost finished spring trainning , getting ready for my season opener in Toronto at the skydome. I am not going to write a revew , there are plenty around so I will say that this is by far the best baseball game I have ever played . Now how do I feel they can improve upon it , well here goes ..... feel free to add your thoughts here too :

    Graphics :
    Stadiums / ballparks - Currently they are the best our there , the detail is incredible . What I would like to see is :
    1. realtime shadows - that move as the game progresses.
    2. Some background bitmaps look blurry : like in Camden Yards the warehouse looks a little too washout ( color ) and it is not a 3d image , buildings that are close to the park should be a 3d graphic not a 2d image.
    3. flyby of the stadium before the game starts would be a nice touch ! Maybe if just for the post season .
    4. last but not least I would like to see fan intelegence, don't have the ballparks filled all the time, I would like to see varied attendence that change as the season progresses.
    5. Keep the stadim tours , they are beautiful.

    Audio :
    The two man booth of Brennaman and Lions are good maybe the best out there , but it would be nice to have more commentators to choose from. Tony Larusa did this in their game a number of years back. Personally I would like to see Buck and McCarver. The ambience still need some work , the music and national anthems are a little too quiet, and the umpires too loud. The bat to ball sounds are excellent.

    Gameplay :
    I ove the play of this game. I like the normal cursor , veteran ( may change through my season to allstar if I get better at hitting ) exhaderated pitches . The variety of hits are excellent , the vaccum fielding still needs some work . I think they could still slow the fast balls down some. The camera angels are good . The camera angle down the line is awesome , especially if it hits the foul pole. This camera angle is the best I've seen in a baseball game. I would like to see more variey of camera shots of the ballpark especially in between innings. They just don't show enough of the beautiful ballparks. The Franchise speaks for itself , second to none ! The only thing I would like to see added next time is a randome schedule for season play. Because Every home opening game I won't have to face the same strting pitcher for every series through out my season. Also a big addition would be to have more that just one human player be able to take a team in season play. I was hoping for me and my son to each have a team in season play . Please add this next year.
    Fron End Menus :
    I don't think they culd make this any better folks. Maybe if they added a sports desk of some kind that the commentatiors would comment on your season and transactions etc. Imagine that !
    Like I said this is the best game out there , plays real and fun. Hope they can take some of my advice as a serious baseball lover and gamer.
    take care, sixmillion
  • SPTO
    binging
    • Feb 2003
    • 68046

    #2
    Re: I Love This Game ...... how can they improve on it ?

    One suggestion is to make the menus a bit more user friendly and BUMP up the font plz!!!
    Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

    "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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    • SPTO
      binging
      • Feb 2003
      • 68046

      #3
      Re: I Love This Game ...... how can they improve on it ?

      One suggestion is to make the menus a bit more user friendly and BUMP up the font plz!!!
      Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

      "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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      • USC_QB
        MVP
        • Dec 2002
        • 672

        #4
        Re: I Love This Game ...... how can they improve on it ?

        yea,thats my only gripe. I've almost gone blind from trying to read stats.

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        • USC_QB
          MVP
          • Dec 2002
          • 672

          #5
          Re: I Love This Game ...... how can they improve on it ?

          yea,thats my only gripe. I've almost gone blind from trying to read stats.

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          • SpartyGreen
            Rookie
            • Feb 2003
            • 183

            #6
            Re: I Love This Game ...... how can they improve on it ?

            Here's something I posted over in the "Wishlist" forum:

            Well, I rented MVP. I don't know if anyone here has played this one, but I wanted to check out the pitching and throwing meters.

            Pretty good stuff. I would imagine that next year's games are going to have it, at least as an option. (Well, maybe not HH, they always sort of do their own thing.)

            Anyway, it got me to thinking about what could make ASB '05 (or maybe '06 to get everything developed) better. I am thinking of composing an email to go to Acclaim, and was wondering what other people's thoughts were.

            So far, I think:

            (1) Get a pitching meter. I like the meter that MVP has, but I worry that, over time, it may become to easy (like the kick meter in Madden, for example). So, think that what would be effective would be a meter that has an extremely small "perfect zone," with a slightly larger "good zone" around it. This would help ensure that gamers could not simply learn the timing and hit spots all the time. The zone should get smaller later in the game (as they do in MVP), but there should still be walks early as well. Pitchers' control ratings should determine the size of the zones and the speed with which the meter moves (similar to the free throw meters in baseketball games, just not possible to perfect). As I am writing this, I am in the seventh inning with Wood on MVP. The meter changes as you go along--very good stuff.

            (2) There should be more fly balls/singles/home runs/etc. with the normal cursor. Currently, it seems as though the normal cursor only produces grounders or weak singles up the middle. Timing and the placement of the pitch should definitely play a much, much larger role in the placement of hits throughout the field. The CPU, for example, sprays the ball all over the field. Use whatever code this is for the user.

            (3) I vote for getting rid of the power swing option--have it all normal (subject to suggestion 4 below). Right now, power swings almost always result in fly balls, while contact almost always results in a grounder or a low line drive. Make it more rating based, and have a bly ball/grounder ratio for both hitters and pitchers. Also, have the hitters hit charts reflect somewhat what happens on the field.

            (4) Get rid of the tilting feature. I don't think it's realistic at all. Instead, before the pitch, give users an option on the type of hit they want, such as "normal," "pull," "oopposite field," "fly ball," "grounder," etc. These selections should all produce hits all over the field, with the specialized selections producing somewhat more of that type of hit.

            (5) CPU should attempt to pick the human runners off, and pickoffs should work (although infrequently).

            (6) I think the CPU baserunning is actually okay right now; it's definitely not as bad as some people claim. I have seen many scores from second base, and have seen some first-to-thirds on base hits. However, there is definitely room for improvement. Have the CPU take more chances--I know there are many times now where the CPU doesn't run but would make it, for example.

            (7) More offline throws from the outfield. Maybe give the fielders a "throwing speed" and a "throwing accuracy" rating.

            (8) Better replay feature. Unlimited camera angles--something akin to the replay features in any of the other games would do. (Note: this is least important, and should be sacrificed for one of the other suggestions. I just can't imagine it's that hard to do, so that's why i am including it.)

            (9) Behind-the-pitcher view. This is not just a graphic enhancement--it is more of a challenge to pitch from the mound than it is from the plate. The core animation is already there (see the intentional walk feature), so I don't think this will be that hard to do. (Although, similar to replay, if it is, leave it out.)

            (10) Pitchers should catch line drives only in exceptional circumstances.

            (11) Instead of A/A-/B+/etc., give numerical ratings. It helps to differentiate players better. This may be too hard to do, though, given the current code.

            (12) Sliders.
            (a) Realism--similar to the simulation slider in HH, although I have no idea what ratings that thing tweaks.

            (b) I like the WSB CPU "strike eye" and "ball eye" dichotemy. Seems pretty realistic. The HH "pitch count" slider is good as well. It would be great and much more real, however, to have one of these for every count (0-0/0-1/3-2/ etc.). This would add a LOT to the game!!!

            (c) Fly ball/ground ball--allow users to tweak the range of fly balls and ground balls in the game.

            (d) Pitch speed--this is a big complaint this year.

            (e) CPU baserunning aggresiveness.

            (f) CPU "set up logic"--similar to the batting sliders above, this one would detail in which circumstances (counts) the CPU would be more likely to throw a strike or a ball.

            (g) (Not really a slider, but . . .) If you go with a numerical system, have the option to raise or lower every player's rating in a specific area by X number. That way, if people think baserunners are too fast/slow, or that the throwing speed of the players is too fast/slow, they can edit all players with a single entry.

            That's all for now. I will hopefully edit this later with some more suggestions(I'm gonna go play games with WSB, MVP, HH, and ASB now), hopefully of the "slider" variety, as I put that together rather hastily. Please add any suggestions you have. You'll notice I have really no graphical or front-end suggestions above, but please chime in with any you have. It's just that I think ASB made great strides last year graphically and with the front-end, and I think this year (or next) should bring with it a gameplay focus.

            We are in the very unique position where there are several great baseball games out right now. This should spawn some interesting developments in the next couple years. I think ASB's core engine has the best potential to combine the greatest from all the games and deliver an amazing product. Just look at all the people that have tried the other games, but come back saying "I really liked X feature of X game, but can't stay away from ASB."

            Hopefully you (and Acclaim) feel the same way. Please let me know what you think.

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            • SpartyGreen
              Rookie
              • Feb 2003
              • 183

              #7
              Re: I Love This Game ...... how can they improve on it ?

              Here's something I posted over in the "Wishlist" forum:

              Well, I rented MVP. I don't know if anyone here has played this one, but I wanted to check out the pitching and throwing meters.

              Pretty good stuff. I would imagine that next year's games are going to have it, at least as an option. (Well, maybe not HH, they always sort of do their own thing.)

              Anyway, it got me to thinking about what could make ASB '05 (or maybe '06 to get everything developed) better. I am thinking of composing an email to go to Acclaim, and was wondering what other people's thoughts were.

              So far, I think:

              (1) Get a pitching meter. I like the meter that MVP has, but I worry that, over time, it may become to easy (like the kick meter in Madden, for example). So, think that what would be effective would be a meter that has an extremely small "perfect zone," with a slightly larger "good zone" around it. This would help ensure that gamers could not simply learn the timing and hit spots all the time. The zone should get smaller later in the game (as they do in MVP), but there should still be walks early as well. Pitchers' control ratings should determine the size of the zones and the speed with which the meter moves (similar to the free throw meters in baseketball games, just not possible to perfect). As I am writing this, I am in the seventh inning with Wood on MVP. The meter changes as you go along--very good stuff.

              (2) There should be more fly balls/singles/home runs/etc. with the normal cursor. Currently, it seems as though the normal cursor only produces grounders or weak singles up the middle. Timing and the placement of the pitch should definitely play a much, much larger role in the placement of hits throughout the field. The CPU, for example, sprays the ball all over the field. Use whatever code this is for the user.

              (3) I vote for getting rid of the power swing option--have it all normal (subject to suggestion 4 below). Right now, power swings almost always result in fly balls, while contact almost always results in a grounder or a low line drive. Make it more rating based, and have a bly ball/grounder ratio for both hitters and pitchers. Also, have the hitters hit charts reflect somewhat what happens on the field.

              (4) Get rid of the tilting feature. I don't think it's realistic at all. Instead, before the pitch, give users an option on the type of hit they want, such as "normal," "pull," "oopposite field," "fly ball," "grounder," etc. These selections should all produce hits all over the field, with the specialized selections producing somewhat more of that type of hit.

              (5) CPU should attempt to pick the human runners off, and pickoffs should work (although infrequently).

              (6) I think the CPU baserunning is actually okay right now; it's definitely not as bad as some people claim. I have seen many scores from second base, and have seen some first-to-thirds on base hits. However, there is definitely room for improvement. Have the CPU take more chances--I know there are many times now where the CPU doesn't run but would make it, for example.

              (7) More offline throws from the outfield. Maybe give the fielders a "throwing speed" and a "throwing accuracy" rating.

              (8) Better replay feature. Unlimited camera angles--something akin to the replay features in any of the other games would do. (Note: this is least important, and should be sacrificed for one of the other suggestions. I just can't imagine it's that hard to do, so that's why i am including it.)

              (9) Behind-the-pitcher view. This is not just a graphic enhancement--it is more of a challenge to pitch from the mound than it is from the plate. The core animation is already there (see the intentional walk feature), so I don't think this will be that hard to do. (Although, similar to replay, if it is, leave it out.)

              (10) Pitchers should catch line drives only in exceptional circumstances.

              (11) Instead of A/A-/B+/etc., give numerical ratings. It helps to differentiate players better. This may be too hard to do, though, given the current code.

              (12) Sliders.
              (a) Realism--similar to the simulation slider in HH, although I have no idea what ratings that thing tweaks.

              (b) I like the WSB CPU "strike eye" and "ball eye" dichotemy. Seems pretty realistic. The HH "pitch count" slider is good as well. It would be great and much more real, however, to have one of these for every count (0-0/0-1/3-2/ etc.). This would add a LOT to the game!!!

              (c) Fly ball/ground ball--allow users to tweak the range of fly balls and ground balls in the game.

              (d) Pitch speed--this is a big complaint this year.

              (e) CPU baserunning aggresiveness.

              (f) CPU "set up logic"--similar to the batting sliders above, this one would detail in which circumstances (counts) the CPU would be more likely to throw a strike or a ball.

              (g) (Not really a slider, but . . .) If you go with a numerical system, have the option to raise or lower every player's rating in a specific area by X number. That way, if people think baserunners are too fast/slow, or that the throwing speed of the players is too fast/slow, they can edit all players with a single entry.

              That's all for now. I will hopefully edit this later with some more suggestions(I'm gonna go play games with WSB, MVP, HH, and ASB now), hopefully of the "slider" variety, as I put that together rather hastily. Please add any suggestions you have. You'll notice I have really no graphical or front-end suggestions above, but please chime in with any you have. It's just that I think ASB made great strides last year graphically and with the front-end, and I think this year (or next) should bring with it a gameplay focus.

              We are in the very unique position where there are several great baseball games out right now. This should spawn some interesting developments in the next couple years. I think ASB's core engine has the best potential to combine the greatest from all the games and deliver an amazing product. Just look at all the people that have tried the other games, but come back saying "I really liked X feature of X game, but can't stay away from ASB."

              Hopefully you (and Acclaim) feel the same way. Please let me know what you think.

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              • TopDog
                Rookie
                • Jul 2002
                • 484

                #8
                Re: I Love This Game ...... how can they improve on it ?

                Hmmm.

                So basically you just want a huge High Heat/MVP/WSB/ASB game. That shouldn't be too hard for them to turn out next year.

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                • TopDog
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 484

                  #9
                  Re: I Love This Game ...... how can they improve on it ?

                  Hmmm.

                  So basically you just want a huge High Heat/MVP/WSB/ASB game. That shouldn't be too hard for them to turn out next year.

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                  • weevilhogg
                    Rookie
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 154

                    #10
                    Re: I Love This Game ...... how can they improve on it ?

                    I whole heartedly agree on the replay thing. It is very frustrating to know that the game has these cool collision features, but when I do the replay all I get is a very limited view of my gargantuan homer


                    I'm getting old, but i still think the font size is way too small for the stats.

                    Other than that, I'm excstatic over this game. And really my compaints are more nit-picky than anything else. . . . .


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                    • weevilhogg
                      Rookie
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 154

                      #11
                      Re: I Love This Game ...... how can they improve on it ?

                      I whole heartedly agree on the replay thing. It is very frustrating to know that the game has these cool collision features, but when I do the replay all I get is a very limited view of my gargantuan homer


                      I'm getting old, but i still think the font size is way too small for the stats.

                      Other than that, I'm excstatic over this game. And really my compaints are more nit-picky than anything else. . . . .


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                      • Mr_October
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 1618

                        #12
                        Re: I Love This Game ...... how can they improve on it ?

                        I think batter cursor hitting should stay the way it is. I don't like simple games where you just have to time the hit. All Star offers enough hitting options in my opinion. One of the things it definately needs though is, behind the pitcher cam. And created player recoginition(Announcers announcing their names).
                        Kansas City Royals MVP 2005 Dynasty... The Climb To The Top.

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                        • Mr_October
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 1618

                          #13
                          Re: I Love This Game ...... how can they improve on it ?

                          I think batter cursor hitting should stay the way it is. I don't like simple games where you just have to time the hit. All Star offers enough hitting options in my opinion. One of the things it definately needs though is, behind the pitcher cam. And created player recoginition(Announcers announcing their names).
                          Kansas City Royals MVP 2005 Dynasty... The Climb To The Top.

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                          • GTheorenHobbes
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 2572

                            #14
                            Re: I Love This Game ...... how can they improve on it ?

                            I too love this game... But I hope that next year, they can get the bat/ball collision detection to be as good as MVP's (and even WSB's for that matter). Also hope they can get rid of the crouch animation once and for all. Just having the players start to throw the ball around the horn (as opposed to holding onto the ball and crouching) ought to do the trick.

                            It's pretty nice when such nit-picky things are my biggest beefs with the game.

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                            • GTheorenHobbes
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 2572

                              #15
                              Re: I Love This Game ...... how can they improve on it ?

                              I too love this game... But I hope that next year, they can get the bat/ball collision detection to be as good as MVP's (and even WSB's for that matter). Also hope they can get rid of the crouch animation once and for all. Just having the players start to throw the ball around the horn (as opposed to holding onto the ball and crouching) ought to do the trick.

                              It's pretty nice when such nit-picky things are my biggest beefs with the game.

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