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  • Sandman42
    Hall Of Fame
    • Aug 2004
    • 15186

    #1

    Pedroia wins AL MVP

    I would've voted for Mauer.



    EDIT: Looking at the votes someone gave Jason Bartlett a 5th place vote.
    Last edited by Sandman42; 11-18-2008, 02:08 PM.
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  • nyisles16
    All Star
    • Apr 2003
    • 8317

    #2
    Re: Pedroia wins AL MVP

    wonder where Quentin would have finished if he didn't get hurt..

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    • Thrasha
      MVP
      • Nov 2004
      • 3374

      #3
      Re: Pedroia wins AL MVP

      I think I would have given my MVP vote to Youk. Just for the simple fact that Youkilis provided such flexibility in the infield with him being able to play spot on defense at both corners. And the ability to move him around the lineup and still be very effective.

      It's still awesome to see Dustin get the award. He had an awesome year and did a great job in carrying the offense at some points throughout the year. I'd love to see Peter Gammons inbox on his cell phone to see what kind of text messages DP is sending him right now lol
      “Nobody in the history of the game tried what I just tried. We’re talking about on the biggest stage, in New York, playing out of position and asked to hit fourth for the New York Yankees. I mean, that’s never been done.” - Sheffield on Sheffield

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      • LanteriX
        MVP
        • Feb 2004
        • 1624

        #4
        Re: Pedroia wins AL MVP

        Well deserved.

        Personally, if Quentin stayed healthy I woulda gave it to him easily, but considering the fact that he only played 130 games you just can't give it to him.

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        • snepp
          We'll waste him too.
          • Apr 2003
          • 10007

          #5
          Re: Pedroia wins AL MVP

          I would have gone...

          1. Mauer
          2. Pedroia
          3. Youkilis
          4. Morneau

          (I don't have any issues with Pedroia winning though)

          KRod received a first place vote, imagine that.
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          • snepp
            We'll waste him too.
            • Apr 2003
            • 10007

            #6
            Re: Pedroia wins AL MVP

            WTF, somebody left Pedroia completely off their ballot? ****ing BBWAA.
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            • dkgojackets
              Banned
              • Mar 2005
              • 13816

              #7
              Re: Pedroia wins AL MVP

              Not a bad decision imo, there were quite a few players with similar level arguments.

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              • CMH
                Making you famous
                • Oct 2002
                • 26203

                #8
                Re: Pedroia wins AL MVP

                It was a wide open AL. I also have no problem with Pedroia winning.

                He was the top offensive 2B in the American League and he put up numbers that a normal 2B should not put up.

                For his spot in the lineup, his production was outstanding, and the only stat he didn't really have over anyone was homeruns. When you also consider that he hit 17 homeruns to Mauer's 9 and still only hit .002 lower than him, I think that's worth noting.

                Now if Quentin didn't get votes because he only played 130 games, that's just a bunch of crap. 130 games is still a lot of games. You can't fault someone for missing 30 games in the season.
                "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

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                • dkgojackets
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 13816

                  #9
                  Re: Pedroia wins AL MVP

                  Originally posted by YankeePride
                  Now if Quentin didn't get votes because he only played 130 games, that's just a bunch of crap. 130 games is still a lot of games. You can't fault someone for missing 30 games in the season.
                  Number of games played is part of the criteria though, and Pedroia played 157 games this season. Not having to find a replacement for 30+ games is part of the value he provided.

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                  • CMH
                    Making you famous
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 26203

                    #10
                    Re: Pedroia wins AL MVP

                    Originally posted by dkgojackets
                    Number of games played is part of the criteria though, and Pedroia played 157 games this season. Not having to find a replacement for 30+ games is part of the value he provided.
                    Yea, I won't argue this. It's a valid point.
                    "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                    "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                    • stewaat

                      #11
                      Re: Pedroia wins AL MVP

                      I just don't like Pedrioa so it sucks he won. I don't like the Red Sox in general I guess, too bad Mauer didn't win it. I really like that guy.

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                      • snepp
                        We'll waste him too.
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 10007

                        #12
                        Re: Pedroia wins AL MVP

                        Originally posted by YankeePride
                        Now if Quentin didn't get votes because he only played 130 games, that's just a bunch of crap. 130 games is still a lot of games. You can't fault someone for missing 30 games in the season.
                        If he put up Bonds numbers circa 2001-2004 for 130 games I would agree, but when you're bringing minimal defensive value to start with and you aren't far and away more valuable offensively you really need to provide that offensive value for the entire season.

                        (what an awful sentence, I fail at the internet)
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                        • CMH
                          Making you famous
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 26203

                          #13
                          Re: Pedroia wins AL MVP

                          Originally posted by snepp
                          If he put up Bonds numbers circa 2001-2004 for 130 games I would agree, but when you're bringing minimal defensive value to start with and you aren't far and away more valuable offensively you really need to provide that offensive value for the entire season.

                          (what an awful sentence, I fail at the internet)
                          Oh, I agree.

                          I was going to post something similar about Bonds-like numbers in 130 games, but really couldn't find a way to say it.

                          I'm not saying Quentin should have won the award. I'm just saying that I hope games wasn't the only factor in not getting votes. Can it be a factor? Yes. But, I hope it isn't the only one.

                          Because then that makes me worry that a guy can put up Bonds-like numbers in 130 games and be pushed aside because he missed 18% of the season.

                          It's a follow up to this quote:

                          LanteriX Re: Pedroia wins AL MVP
                          <hr style="color: rgb(57, 57, 57); background-color: rgb(57, 57, 57);" size="1"> Well deserved.

                          Personally, if Quentin stayed healthy I woulda gave it to him easily, but considering the fact that he only played 130 games you just can't give it to him.


                          That just bothers me. It's basically saying, "I don't care what numbers he put up, or how valuable he was to the team, the fact that he missed 30 games is enough to disqualify him from the vote."

                          I can't agree with that.
                          "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                          "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                          • snepp
                            We'll waste him too.
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 10007

                            #14
                            Re: Pedroia wins AL MVP

                            Originally posted by YankeePride
                            Personally, if Quentin stayed healthy I woulda gave it to him easily, but considering the fact that he only played 130 games you just can't give it to him.


                            That just bothers me. It's basically saying, "I don't care what numbers he put up, or how valuable he was to the team, the fact that he missed 30 games is enough to disqualify him from the vote."

                            I can't agree with that.
                            Yeah, that's simplifying it way too much. But then again these are the BB writers we're talking about.
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                            • SPTO
                              binging
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 68046

                              #15
                              Re: Pedroia wins AL MVP

                              Well at least K-Rod didn't win. I know some folks here would've been up in arms. As for Pedroia, don't like the guy all that much but whatever, congrats.
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