A-Rod tested positive for 'roids in '03

**SPTO** · 02-07-2009, 04:21 PM

Re: A-Rod tested positive for 'roids in '03

Originally posted by Pared

I don't see what him being a Yankee has to do with anything right now. Although they've had it rough: Clemens, Pettitte, Giambi, Sheffield... now this guy... am I missing anyone?

The Jays have it rough too. It was one of their trainers (Radomski) that introduced Roger to the stuff and allegations came out that the entire pitching staff at the time were on something or another.

"sigh"

**Pared** · 02-07-2009, 04:24 PM

Re: A-Rod tested positive for 'roids in '03

Originally posted by SPTO

The Jays have it rough too. It was one of their trainers (Radomski) that introduced Roger to the stuff and allegations came out that the entire pitching staff at the time were on something or another.

"sigh"

Yeah, I'm kinda familiar with Radomski and the teams he was associated with!

**Jet Sufferer** · 02-07-2009, 04:33 PM

Re: A-Rod tested positive for 'roids in '03

Originally posted by SPTO

The Jays have it rough too. It was one of their trainers (Radomski) that introduced Roger to the stuff and allegations came out that the entire pitching staff at the time were on something or another.

"sigh"

How about the Rangers? A-Rod, Inciviglia, Sierra, Gonzalez, Canseco, Tom House, and whispers of.........Nolan Ryan, for starters. Those Rangers were bigger than the Cowboys.

**ZB9** · 02-07-2009, 04:43 PM

Re: A-Rod tested positive for 'roids in '03

this is what MLB gets for not having some semblance of a PED policy from the get go. Their early policy, or lackthereof, and the way MLB has handled all of this is a joke. Now we get this ridiculous witch hunt.

btw, steroids and other PEDs were not illegal in MLB in the year that Rodriquez was tested positive.

**ZB9** · 02-07-2009, 04:45 PM

Re: A-Rod tested positive for 'roids in '03

Originally posted by Jet Sufferer

How about the Rangers? A-Rod, Inciviglia, Sierra, Gonzalez, Canseco, Tom House, and whispers of.........Nolan Ryan, for starters. Those Rangers were bigger than the Cowboys.

there are no "whispers of Nolan Ryan", except from you throwing crap against the wall

**Brandon13** · 02-07-2009, 04:51 PM

Re: A-Rod tested positive for 'roids in '03

Originally posted by ZB9

this is what MLB gets for not having some semblance of a PED policy from the get go. Now we get this ridiculous witch hunt.

btw, steroids and other PEDs were not illegal in MLB in the year that Rodriquez was tested positive.

Why does it matter if MLB explicitly banned steroids? They're illegal in the United States and MLB is an American based corporation. Unless you're saying there's no way to punish him I'm not sure I understand the point.

**Pared** · 02-07-2009, 04:52 PM

Re: A-Rod tested positive for 'roids in '03

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0902/mlb.alex.rodriguez.through.the.years/content.1.html?eref=T1

Picture gallery of A-Rod through the years. You only really see him become "bigger" after he gets to Texas.

Wow.

**ZB9** · 02-07-2009, 04:56 PM

Re: A-Rod tested positive for 'roids in '03

Originally posted by Brandon13

Why does it matter if MLB explicitly banned steroids? They're illegal in the United States and MLB is an American based corporation. Unless you're saying there's no way to punish him I'm not sure I understand the point.

not all PED's are illegal in the United States. I bet that most pro athletes use something. There is a fine line between what is illegal and what isnt.

**ZB9** · 02-07-2009, 05:00 PM

Re: A-Rod tested positive for 'roids in '03

Originally posted by Pared

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/mul...1.html?eref=T1

Picture gallery of A-Rod through the years. You only really see him become "bigger" after he gets to Texas.

Wow.

lol you would think with all of the roids and PED's that Texas Rangers were using that they would have WON MORE GAMES. Wzup with that? If you are going to sell out, at least win

**PrettyT11** · 02-07-2009, 05:06 PM

Re: A-Rod tested positive for 'roids in '03

He really hasn't got that much bigger though. When you look at Bonds, Sosa, and Mac they all got HUGE. A-Rod has always been a big guy. I mean look at that first picture. He was 18 in that pic and had alot of size on him. You compare that pic to last pic and there isn't a very big difference.

Now you compare the Pirates Bonds to now or any of those other guys and there is a HUGE difference.

**Brandon13** · 02-07-2009, 05:08 PM

Re: A-Rod tested positive for 'roids in '03

Originally posted by ZB9

not all PED's are illegal in the United States. I bet that most pro athletes use something. There is a fine line between what is illegal and what isnt.

Primobolan and testosterone (without a prescription) were both illegal in 2003. There may be a fine line but he was definitely on the wrong side of it.

**Jet Sufferer** · 02-07-2009, 05:09 PM

Re: A-Rod tested positive for 'roids in '03

Originally posted by ZB9

there are no "whispers of Nolan Ryan", except from you throwing crap against the wall

Sorry, I was always a big Nolan Ryan fan, but there were whispers of Ryan and Clemens, when you perform at that kind of level at that age people are going to talk. I'll give you one small quote from someone on the inside.

"The Rangers were the leaders in steroid use since the days of Bobby Valentine and Tom House. As the new stadium was being built, I had several occasions to be up close and personal with a lot of the players, and having come from a small college that produced Mark Gastenau and Cliff Thrift during the years I attended, among others, I know it when I see it. I’ve come to believe that even Nolan Ryan was utilizing the special vitamins being served in that training room. I saw him the day he arrived and watched him gain muscle definition and occasional flashes of temper during his stint. Valentine and House definitely were using. Some were using a little, others were freakishly disfigured from abuse (Incavilia, Sierra, Gonzalez, etc)."

**SPTO** · 02-07-2009, 05:10 PM

Re: A-Rod tested positive for 'roids in '03

Originally posted by Pared

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/mul...1.html?eref=T1

Picture gallery of A-Rod through the years. You only really see him become "bigger" after he gets to Texas.

Wow.

Looks to me like he was starting to come off the juice a bit last year or it could be my mind playing tricks on me.

**CMH** · 02-07-2009, 05:13 PM

Re: A-Rod tested positive for 'roids in '03

There's a huge difference. Alex is just a tall, lean guy. But, the muscle mass is much different. At 18 he was mostly cut. Look at his biceps today.

**The Chef** · 02-07-2009, 05:17 PM

Re: A-Rod tested positive for 'roids in '03

Originally posted by Pared

I'm a self admitted Yankee ***** (

) but c'mon, he wasn't even a Yankee when this "happened."

I don't see what him being a Yankee has to do with anything right now. Although they've had it rough: Clemens, Pettitte, Giambi, Sheffield... now this guy... am I missing anyone?

Dont forget Knoblauch as he played in NY as well and has already admitted to using steroids.

Canseco seems to look more and more credible by the minute. Has there been anyone he named that hasnt either failed a test or been linked to Radomski and that whole mess?

A-Rod tested positive for 'roids in '03

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