A-Rod tested positive for 'roids in '03

[Brandon13]

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Sorry, I was always a big Nolan Ryan fan, but there were whispers of Ryan and Clemens, when you perform at that kind of level at that age people are going to talk. I'll give you one small quote from someone on the inside.

"The Rangers were the leaders in steroid use since the days of Bobby Valentine and Tom House. As the new stadium was being built, I had several occasions to be up close and personal with a lot of the players, and having come from a small college that produced Mark Gastenau and Cliff Thrift during the years I attended, among others, I know it when I see it. I’ve come to believe that even Nolan Ryan was utilizing the special vitamins being served in that training room. I saw him the day he arrived and watched him gain muscle definition and occasional flashes of temper during his stint. Valentine and House definitely were using. Some were using a little, others were freakishly disfigured from abuse (Incavilia, Sierra, Gonzalez, etc)."

Do you know the guy who said that?

[Lintyfresh85]

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this is what MLB gets for not having some semblance of a PED policy from the get go. Their early policy, or lackthereof, and the way MLB has handled all of this is a joke. Now we get this ridiculous witch hunt.

btw, steroids and other PEDs were not illegal in MLB in the year that Rodriquez was tested positive.

Actually, they were.

From rotoworld.com
A number of sources have told Sports Illustrated that Alex Rodriguez tested positive for two types of anabolic steroids in 2003 while playing for the Texas Rangers.

A-Rod was approached with the news in a Miami gym Thursday. "You'll have to talk to the union," he responded when asked to discuss the report. "I'm not saying anything." MLB had no set penalties for a positive test in 2003, but steroids have been expressly prohibited in baseball since 1991. A lab in California contains 103 other positive urine samples. The names of those players are, for now, being protected by the federal government.
Source: Sports Illustrated

BAM!

[Brandon13]

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Actually, they were.



BAM!

Yeah, they were illegal but there was no system in place to test for steroids or punish people for taking steroids so it was about the emptiest ban possible.

But it doesn't even matter. They're illegal in the U.S. so they have to also be illegal in MLB.

[PhantomPain]

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Actually, they were.



BAM!

They were illegal but they had no punishment if you tested positive.

[J0nnD0ugh]

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This is still america and where you are innocent until PROVEN guilty. Yeah there where alot of guys taking it but it wouldn't be fair to assume that everybody was doing it.

Its not an assumption. Its being a realist. If anyone is shocked, in this day & age, when they hear of an athlete juicing, they are being naive.

Fehr and Orza are toast.

They for whatever reason decided not to destroy the test after 2003 when MLB gave them the option to.

They're done.

Seriously.

This is what I don't understand. Once the results were in, why not destroy all evidence? What use was it to have it around? They weren't legally obligated.

The most offensive part of this story, and Bonds' story, and Clemens' story, is just the hubris and arrogance of it all. You're not talking about fringe players who feel like they need to take steroids to keep themselves in the game, you're talking about superstars who just aren't satisfied with being superstars and need to make themselves bigger than the game. On top of the money these players are making compared to average Americans, that side of this story is just sickening and offensive to me.

The idea wasn't a need. The idea was a benefit. Why do millionaires embezzle money? They are thinking "if this syringe can make Joe Scrub a 20-20 guy, what will it do for me, a 30-30 guy naturally?".

Black Sox scandal was about throwing games. Steroids era is about guys trying to get an extra edge.. Black Sox scandal way worst for the game of baseball..

Infinitely. Steroids is a black eye. Gambling is the Black Death.

[Lintyfresh85]

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Yeah, they were illegal but there was no system in place to test for steroids or punish people for taking steroids so it was about the emptiest ban possible.

But it doesn't even matter. They're illegal in the U.S. so they have to also be illegal in MLB.

That's the point... ZB said they weren't illegal, I posted a link that said they were.

[Brandon13]

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That's the point... ZB said they weren't illegal, I posted a link that said they were.

I know. I was just pointing out the no test and no punishment portions in case you hadn't seen it already.

[ZB9]

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They were illegal but they had no punishment if you tested positive.

that is what I meant

you say things much better than I do and with less rambling lol

[HungryBologna]

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A-Fraud

[JEM]

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Is there any word on others? Say like Chipper? Would probably stop watching baseball if his name were to pop up in this.

[ZB9]

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it's interesting that nothing has come out in the Mitchell report or anywhere else in this witch hunt about any Red Sox players. I find it hard to believe that no Red Sox used PED's

yall think George Mitchell being a former executive for the Red Sox organization has something to do with that?

[xythander]

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I'm a self admitted Yankee ***** ( ) but c'mon, he wasn't even a Yankee when this "happened."

Damn right, he was a Texas Ranger. Just like a few other major steroid players were.

Not that I condone it, but as a Ranger fan I have nothing else to cheer about.

[ZB9]

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Damn right, he was a Texas Ranger. Just like a few other major steroid players were.

Not that I condone it, but as a Ranger fan I have nothing else to cheer about.

lol you would think that one of these roided up Rangers teams that we have had would have actually won

[bravosfan]

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Is there any word on others? Say like Chipper? Would probably stop watching baseball if his name were to pop up in this.

No one would surprise me anymore. Though as open and outspoken as he's been about 'roids, he would really look bad if something came out. Not that he'd be alone in that, of course.

And just for the record, he's only admitted to using creatine before. Somehow that's been twisted to mean steroids elsewhere on the 'net. Figured I'd get that out of the way already.

[Porschebenz2001]

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it's interesting that nothing has come out in the Mitchell report or anywhere else in this witch hunt about any Red Sox players. I find it hard to believe that no Red Sox used PED's

yall think George Mitchell being a former executive for the Red Sox organization has something to do with that?

Co-sign. The Mitchell report only hurt the Yankees.