Question about rules.

[Gagnon39]

If a batter hits a pop fly that is in foul territory (close to the line) and the ball hits off of the player's glove of body and lands in fair territory, what is the ruling? If anyone can show me the official rule on that I would appreciate it. I looked everywhere but can't find it.

[kehlis]

Re: Question about rules.

Rule 2.00 from rule book

if the ball settles on foul territory or is touched by a player
on foul territory, it is a foul ball.

[Gagnon39]

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What if the player has one foot in foul territory and one foot in fair territory?

[kehlis]

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not 100% sure. Its either an automatic fair ball, or umpires judgement as to where the ball was in regards to the line at the time it makes contact with the fielder.

[Blzer]

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Bigger question... is it an error?

(I know the answer to this question, and there is an exception to the scoring as well)

EDIT: Should've given a definite answer to the initial question. Draw a straight line down to the field where the ball first strikes an object, be it a player or the ground. If in foul territory, it's foul and fair/fair. The umpire just has to be a good judge. The only reason the player's position on the field would matter is if they have any feet out of play, like over the fence for whatever reason... in which case may result in a foul ball call as opposed to an out.

[twiztiddarkangelman]

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What if the player has one foot in foul territory and one foot in fair territory?

If the ball settles in foul territory it is foul upon the umpires discreation

[Brandon13]

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What if the player has one foot in foul territory and one foot in fair territory?

Doesn't make a difference. If the ball was judged to be in foul territory when it was touched, it's foul.

[daflyboys]

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Bigger question... is it an error?

Shouldn't be if foul. An error would account for a base runner instead of a hit or a walk. In the case of a foul ball, there is no base runner..... unless you're saying that this is the exception and you have both a foul ball (no base runner) AND an error.

[kehlis]

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Shouldn't be if foul. An error would account for a base runner instead of a hit or a walk. In the case of a foul ball, there is no base runner..... unless you're saying that this is the exception and you have both a foul ball (no base runner) AND an error.

I think (and I very well could be wrong) that if a routine fly ball is dropped in foul territory it is an error. If that batter gets on base and ends up scoring it isn't an earned run.

edit: Just looked it up:

The official scorer shall charge an error against any fielder:
(1) whose misplay (fumble, muff or wild throw) prolongs the time at bat of a batter, prolongs the presence on the bases of a runner or permits a runner to advance one or more bases, unless, in the judgment of the official scorer, such fielder deliberately permits a foul fly to fall safe with a runner on third base before two are out in order that the runner on third shall not score after the catch;

[daflyboys]

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I think (and I very well could be wrong) that if a routine fly ball is dropped in foul territory it is an error. If that batter gets on base and ends up scoring it isn't an earned run.

edit: Just looked it up:

So if that batter gets on base with a legit base hit and scores, it's not an earned run b/c he could have been out previously? Makes sense. Also, when I typed the above I wasn't thinking that technically they'd have to make a ruling on the ball because a base runner on 3rd could tag up and score, no?

[Blzer]

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I think (and I very well could be wrong) that if a routine fly ball is dropped in foul territory it is an error. If that batter gets on base and ends up scoring it isn't an earned run.

edit: Just looked it up:

Well, I guess going to the official book can get you the answer too.

But yeah, an exception (and valid one) is if say it's a tie game and bottom 9 with a runner on third. A far foul fly if caught with less than two outs is the stupidest action to perform in that situation, for the runner would score and the other team would win. Deliberately letting that fall is not an error; it is otherwise.

[kehlis]

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Well, I guess going to the official book can get you the answer too.

But yeah, an exception (and valid one) is if say it's a tie game and bottom 9 with a runner on third. A far foul fly if caught with less than two outs is the stupidest action to perform in that situation, for the runner would score and the other team would win. Deliberately letting that fall is not an error; it is otherwise.

To be fair, I had the main part right before I looked it up

But I will admit that I would not have thought of that exception had I not looked it up. However, if I was scoring a game I don't think I would have ruled it an error in that situation anyway, but now I know I would have been right!

[AUTiger1]

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I know I've seen a foul ball be missed by Chipper Jones and him get charged with an error.