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  • bronxct1
    Rookie
    • May 2003
    • 197

    #76
    Re: Kevin Youkilis speaks out on American W.B.C support

    I really, really wish this whole tournament would just go away. I haven't found one person I've talked to that enjoys watching it. Everyone just hopes that no one gets injured and gets back with their team as soon as possible.

    Even if USA was demolishing opponents, I don't see the support growing. I know here in New York fans just want to see Jeter and Wright get through this without getting hurt and screwing with the Yanks/Mets seasons.

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    • mgoblue
      Go Wings!
      • Jul 2002
      • 25477

      #77
      Re: Kevin Youkilis speaks out on American W.B.C support

      Originally posted by Pared
      Which is fine and all... and that's understood by some. But people shouldn't take offense then when someone says X country cares more about the sport because of their turnout. If you care, show up. People can show up to spring training games just as easily as this and actually see MAJOR LEAGUE PLAYERS in a tournament of solid baseball as opposed to young kids trying to live the dream.

      And if you don't care and don't want to show up, don't take offense when people call you on it. That's all Youk did. And he didn't even do it in a negative way, just mentioned he's troubled by it.
      That's fine, but people are saying that people who aren't caring about this don't have pride in their country and that's where I disagree. It's even harder to care because the MLB (or whoever) treat this as more than a Hallmark Holiday created to charge a lot for tickets and make money, along with a lot of top pitchers not wanting to play (understandably so...I'd sell myself out to play in the Olympics or World Cup, but this is nowhere near established yet, and wouldn't say the WBC is possibly worth my career in the pros).

      A lot of what's been said is that Americans need to step up and root for their country with passion, and if you don't you're a bad fan. I just disagree with that assessment. If other countries want to take the WBC and own it, love it, etc then go for it. I just personally see no reasons for me to care.
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      • Pared
        Legen - WAIT FOR IT
        • Feb 2003
        • 39337

        #78
        Re: Kevin Youkilis speaks out on American W.B.C support

        lol We're just going in circles at this point. You say you have no reason to care. Others (like Youk's comments) are saying you don't care and it's disappointing that you don't care.

        Where is the argument, really?
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        • jLp_vAkEr0
          MVP
          • Sep 2002
          • 1506

          #79
          Re: Kevin Youkilis speaks out on American W.B.C support

          Originally posted by JBH3


          Have you ever even been to PR, or that stadium for that matter?

          I saw a reg season Bluejays/Expos gm there in 2004, and was there last summer during a cruise.

          First, the ENTIRE island is about as big as Connecticut. San Juan is the capital and obvisouly the largest most populated city, which explains the turn out. A LOT of people live right there around that area of that ballpark.

          Second, THERE IS NO TRAFFIC, anywhere in San Juan which would compare to the states. So to get to the game all you need is gua gua (bus) money, and you're there, which further explains the turn out. From any point in San Juan, except maybe where the Bacardi factory is (where you have to take a ferry), you can get to that stadium well under 30 minutes, well under.

          Third, Puerto Ricans LOVE beisbol, which even futher explains the turn out IN PR. Americans "like" baseball, and LOVE football.

          They're so many incorrect facts in this post that it's laughable.

          Anyway, carry on.

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          • JBH3
            Marvel's Finest
            • Jan 2007
            • 13506

            #80
            Re: Kevin Youkilis speaks out on American W.B.C support

            Originally posted by jLp_vAkEr0
            They're so many incorrect facts in this post that it's laughable.

            Anyway, carry on.
            That was my experience while there.
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            • jLp_vAkEr0
              MVP
              • Sep 2002
              • 1506

              #81
              Re: Kevin Youkilis speaks out on American W.B.C support

              Originally posted by Pared
              lol We're just going in circles at this point. You say you have no reason to care. Others (like Youk's comments) are saying you don't care and it's disappointing that you don't care.

              Where is the argument, really?

              It's really a worthless arguing about it.

              Just like people who say that suddenly the US players care, but they didn't care when the lost 11-1 to PR?

              I mean, it's ridiculous.

              It's bandwagonism 101.

              Yeah, people don't care cause it's played in sunny, perfect weathered Miami. Yet thousands visit the same frigging state of Florida to watch their respective teams exercise and play meaningless spring training games.

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              • jLp_vAkEr0
                MVP
                • Sep 2002
                • 1506

                #82
                Re: Kevin Youkilis speaks out on American W.B.C support

                Originally posted by JBH3
                That was my experience while there.
                I figured.

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                • Scottdau
                  Banned
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 32580

                  #83
                  Re: Kevin Youkilis speaks out on American W.B.C support

                  I still say more Americans would care if they were winning. If they were favorite to win it every time that played. More people would be into it. I do agree with some saying they don't like it because it can mean maybe a stud getting hurt before the season starts.

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                  • Pared
                    Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 39337

                    #84
                    Re: Kevin Youkilis speaks out on American W.B.C support

                    Originally posted by jLp_vAkEr0
                    They're so many incorrect facts in this post that it's laughable.

                    Anyway, carry on.
                    My favorite was the "gua gua."
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                    • bronxct1
                      Rookie
                      • May 2003
                      • 197

                      #85
                      Re: Kevin Youkilis speaks out on American W.B.C support

                      Originally posted by Scottdau
                      I still say more Americans would care if they were winning. If they were favorite to win it every time that played. More people would be into it. I do agree with some saying they don't like it because it can mean maybe a stud getting hurt before the season starts.
                      I really don't agree with that. I know a lot of people who were hoping the USA got knocked in the first round so the players could get back to spring training.

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                      • JBH3
                        Marvel's Finest
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 13506

                        #86
                        Re: Kevin Youkilis speaks out on American W.B.C support

                        Originally posted by Pared
                        My favorite was the "gua gua."
                        So where were my aggregious errors???
                        Originally posted by Edmund Burke
                        All that is needed for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing.

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                        • Pared
                          Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 39337

                          #87
                          Re: Kevin Youkilis speaks out on American W.B.C support

                          Originally posted by JBH3
                          So where were my aggregious errors???
                          This isn't the thread nor the topic of discussion to really go into it. I just got a kick of your use of the local slang, that's all. Gave me a good chuckle.

                          Like you said, that was your experience. We can just leave it at that.
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                          • JBH3
                            Marvel's Finest
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 13506

                            #88
                            Re: Kevin Youkilis speaks out on American W.B.C support

                            Originally posted by Pared
                            This isn't the thread nor the topic of discussion to really go into it. I just got a kick of your use of the local slang, that's all. Gave me a good chuckle.

                            Like you said, that was your experience. We can just leave it at that.
                            I'm very cultured...:wink:
                            Originally posted by Edmund Burke
                            All that is needed for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing.

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                            • Pared
                              Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 39337

                              #89
                              Re: Kevin Youkilis speaks out on American W.B.C support

                              lol
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                              • CMH
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                                • Oct 2002
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                                #90
                                Re: Kevin Youkilis speaks out on American W.B.C support

                                It's nice to read someone write gua gua. It's what I learned growing up in my family and then I go to high school and they try to tell me that bus is autobus. No.
                                "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

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