About Defensive Subs

[Imnus]

Hey, guys a couple of questions about Defensive Subs:

So is true that a manager can't make more that one Position Swap per batter while on Defense?

Also how many Defensive Position Swaps can be make while on the offense? I mean if every batter gets a turn in a inning and the manager pinch every one of them, he can Swap their Positions around all he wants or is there a limitation to the number of swaps that can be done?

[Imnus]

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[rsox]

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Hey, guys a couple of questions about Defensive Subs:

So is true that a manager can't make more that one Position Swap per batter while on Defense?

Also how many Defensive Position Swaps can be make while on the offense? I mean if every batter gets a turn in a inning and the manager pinch every one of them, he can Swap their Positions around all he wants or is there a limitation to the number of swaps that can be done?

Being that rosters only have 25 players for the majority of the season unless you are going to use pitchers at other positions you can't substitute everybody.

You can't make a defensive switch while on offense, you can pinch hit for a player and then have to decide whether to leave him in the game or replace him with someone else.

I'm not sure about the whole multiple position swaps per batter thing. Most defensive subs (non-injury related) are usually made at the start of an inning unless in the NL when a double switch is made changing the pitcher and brining in a defensive sub at another position then switching their place in the batting order.

Hope that helps.

[Imnus]

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Being that rosters only have 25 players for the majority of the season unless you are going to use pitchers at other positions you can't substitute everybody.

You can't make a defensive switch while on offense, you can pinch hit for a player and then have to decide whether to leave him in the game or replace him with someone else.

I'm not sure about the whole multiple position swaps per batter thing. Most defensive subs (non-injury related) are usually made at the start of an inning unless in the NL when a double switch is made changing the pitcher and brining in a defensive sub at another position then switching their place in the batting order.

Hope that helps.

I was talking about Spring Training, what I mean was: for example the CF is the first batter of the inning, the manager pinch him for an SS, then the second batter is the SS and the manager pinch him for a C, then the third is the 3B and the manager pinch him for a CF, and the fourth batter is the C and is pinched for a 3B.

So could the manager swap around all the pinch hitters when his team goes on the defense or is there a restriction to the number of position swaps?

Thanks.

[rsox]

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I was talking about Spring Training, what I mean was: for example the CF is the first batter of the inning, the manager pinch him for an SS, then the second batter is the SS and the manager pinch him for a C, then the third is the 3B and the manager pinch him for a CF, and the fourth batter is the C and is pinched for a 3B.

So could the manager swap around all the pinch hitters when his team goes on the defense or is there a restriction to the number of position swaps?

Thanks.

As long as you have the players to do it with you can pinch hit as many as you want.

[Imnus]

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As long as you have the players to do it with you can pinch hit as many as you want.

Man, this is hard to explain. I know that you can pinch hit as much as you want. But the manager can swap the for the next half of the inning the SS that was pinch hitter for CF to SS, the C that was pinch hitter for the SS to C, the CF that was pinch hitter for the SS to CF and goes on.

Or is there some kind of limitation?

Thanks.

[rsox]

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Man, this is hard to explain. I know that you can pinch hit as much as you want. But the manager can swap the for the next half of the inning the SS that was pinch hitter for CF to SS, the C that was pinch hitter for the SS to C, the CF that was pinch hitter for the SS to CF and goes on.

Or is there some kind of limitation?

Thanks.

I know what you are asking. You are asking if a manager can re-work the positioning of his entire batting order in one inning with defensive subs. It can only be done thru pinch hitting. There is no limit to the amount of players you can pinch hit-no matter what position as long as they have the players on the team so yes you can pinch hit your CF batting leadoff with a C and have the C stay in the game and bat leadoff. Yes you can pinch hit your 2B and no.2 hitter with a RF and have him stay and bat 2nd. Yes you can pinch hit your 1B and no.3 hitter with a SS and have him stay and bat 3rd and so on.
You can can change every player on the field on defense in one inning but you can not change the batting order that way.

[Imnus]

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I know what you are asking. You are asking if a manager can re-work the positioning of his entire batting order in one inning with defensive subs. It can only be done thru pinch hitting. There is no limit to the amount of players you can pinch hit-no matter what position as long as they have the players on the team so yes you can pinch hit your CF batting leadoff with a C and have the C stay in the game and bat leadoff. Yes you can pinch hit your 2B and no.2 hitter with a RF and have him stay and bat 2nd. Yes you can pinch hit your 1B and no.3 hitter with a SS and have him stay and bat 3rd and so on.
You can can change every player on the field on defense in one inning but you can not change the batting order that way.

Oh I was never talking about changing the batting order, I was talking about swapping defensive positions. See the thing is how many defensive positions swaps you can make after pinching everyone, so every pinch hitter gets to play at his natural position and not being stuck at playing the position of the player he replaced at bat.

So the SS that was pinch hitter for CF would swap to the SS, the C that was pinch hitter for the SS would swap to C, the CF that was pinch hitter for the SS would swap to CF and that for every player on the same inning.

I always thought there were not restrictions on defensive position swaps, but while playing Spring Training on The Show, I was stuck with player playing defense out of their position because the game wouldn't let you swap defensive positions while on the offense and the next half inning when my team was on the field and I tried to swap everyone around, but the game wouldn't let you do more than one swap defensive swap per batter.

I didn't know if these rules even existed in real life or it was just a bad desing of the game, like the inability of replacing the pitcher while on the offense so the reliever would just go from the start of the next half inning, without having the manager go to the mound to lift the previous pitcher at the beginning of the respective half.

By the way thanks a lot for the help.

[rsox]

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You probably should have mentioned that the basis for your question came from something that happend in a video game. There are no rules like that in MLB but remember there a certain limitations to what you can do in a video game. However, i have swapped many players around in exhibition games on the Show and never had the problem you are describing so on that one i don't know what to tell you.

[kehlis]

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I always thought there were not restrictions on defensive position swaps, but while playing Spring Training on The Show, I was stuck with player playing defense out of their position because the game wouldn't let you swap defensive positions while on the offense and the next half inning when my team was on the field and I tried to swap everyone around, but the game wouldn't let you do more than one swap defensive swap per batter.

To echo what rsox said, I have swapped many positions around on defense at once during spring training using the exact scenario you used and have never had a problem doing so.

[rsox]

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Imnus, let me ask you this: are you trying to swap everyone at once or one at a time?. Because you have to do it one at a time. Everytime you swap positions you have to go back to the game let Matt announce the position changes then go back and do the next switch and back and fourth until you are done.

[Imnus]

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You probably should have mentioned that the basis for your question came from something that happend in a video game. There are no rules like that in MLB but remember there a certain limitations to what you can do in a video game. However, i have swapped many players around in exhibition games on the Show and never had the problem you are describing so on that one i don't know what to tell you.

Yeah, I thought about that. But them I thought that maybe there was a rule like that in the Majors and that bringing the game to the matter would only make the explanation harder to understand; result it was the opposite.

I make a misthought thinking people would focus more on the title of the thread and less on the pinch hitting, that was the reason of the problem but not the integral part.

[Imnus]

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Imnus, let me ask you this: are you trying to swap everyone at once or one at a time?. Because you have to do it one at a time. Everytime you swap positions you have to go back to the game let Matt announce the position changes then go back and do the next switch and back and fourth until you are done.

I'm gonna quote A. Rod on this one:

"I was very, very stupid."

- Alex Rodriguez *Courtesy of JT30



Dammit, I feel so stupid know now for not trying that before you guys told me; would have save much precious time, both yours and mine.

Still don't know why you can't swap defensive positions and switch the pitcher while on the offense, or swap many positions at once, why the developers don't allow that, don't see what could be the problem.

Well, thanks a lot for the help.