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  • SpacemanSpiff
    MVP
    • Mar 2005
    • 1279

    #1

    All-Roids team vs. All-Clean team?

    If you assembled a team of known PED-users to battle against the all-time clean team of the last 25 years(which is tough to make since you don't know who just got lucky and didn't get caught), who would win?

    Barry Bonds, Manny Ramirez, Alex Rodriguez, Roger Clemens are 4 of the greatest players of our generation. All it takes is a Pujols admission to swing it completely to the steroids side, no?
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  • BigDofBA
    B**m*r S**n*r!
    • Aug 2002
    • 9066

    #2
    Re: All-Roids team vs. All-Clean team?

    Originally posted by SpacemanSpiff
    If you assembled a team of known PED-users to battle against the all-time clean team of the last 25 years(which is tough to make since you don't know who just got lucky and didn't get caught), who would win?

    Barry Bonds, Manny Ramirez, Alex Rodriguez, Roger Clemens are 4 of the greatest players of our generation. All it takes is a Pujols admission to swing it completely to the steroids side, no?
    This is pretty obvious, even if Pujols was clean, the All-Roids team would dominate.

    Let me ask you something. Would the "All-Clean team" be better if they were all juicing? Of course. The team that juices has a decided advantage.

    There is a reason the best players of the past 20 years have all been related to steroids or PEDs as some people like to call them.
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    • Cebby
      Banned
      • Apr 2005
      • 22327

      #3
      Re: All-Roids team vs. All-Clean team?

      Originally posted by BigDofBA
      There is a reason the best players of the past 20 years have all been related to steroids or PEDs as some people like to call them.
      Not "all", but most. Frank Thomas and Griffey haven't been "related" to steroids.

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      • SpacemanSpiff
        MVP
        • Mar 2005
        • 1279

        #4
        Re: All-Roids team vs. All-Clean team?

        I guess this is impossible to do unless we knew for sure who juiced and who didn't but guys like Greg Maddux, Griffey, Randy Johnson, Pedro Martinez, could make an argument for the other side. Again no way to know if all the great pitchers of the last two decades were clean but other than Clemens, they've escaped suspicion.
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        • o_capone
          Banned
          • Apr 2009
          • 1270

          #5
          Re: All-Roids team vs. All-Clean team?

          i think it would be a good series... clean would have everyone who has not been caught but is stilll guilty... roids team will be hitting a lot of homeruns tho...

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          • dave374
            Banned
            • Feb 2003
            • 1928

            #6
            Re: All-Roids team vs. All-Clean team?

            There's an all-clean team?

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            • o_capone
              Banned
              • Apr 2009
              • 1270

              #7
              Re: All-Roids team vs. All-Clean team?

              Originally posted by dave374
              There's an all-clean team?
              lets call it the, all-aint-been-caught-yet team

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              • FootballSchemer
                Banned
                • Apr 2009
                • 762

                #8
                Re: All-Roids team vs. All-Clean team?

                Originally posted by Cebby
                Not "all", but most. Frank Thomas and Griffey haven't been "related" to steroids.
                Cuz they werent caught...

                All baseball players have used steroids.... Thats my case and im sticking to it

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                • Coug00
                  LOB
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 3476

                  #9
                  Re: All-Roids team vs. All-Clean team?

                  Great article today on Griffey being one of the few clean sluggers during the steroids era.


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                  • Buckeyes_Doc
                    In Dalton I Trust
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 11918

                    #10
                    Re: All-Roids team vs. All-Clean team?

                    Originally posted by FootballSchemer
                    Cuz they werent caught...

                    All baseball players have used steroids.... Thats my case and im sticking to it
                    That is an extremely ignorant case. All baseball players are cheaters? I would put my money that more football players have used steriods then baseball players no doubt about it.
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                    • 42
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 8801

                      #11
                      Re: All-Roids team vs. All-Clean team?

                      Originally posted by lilbently
                      That is an extremely ignorant case. All baseball players are cheaters? I would put my money that more football players have used steriods then baseball players no doubt about it.

                      100% agreed to the above statement.

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                      • Seahawk76
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 1394

                        #12
                        Re: All-Roids team vs. All-Clean team?

                        Originally posted by FootballSchemer
                        Cuz they werent caught...

                        All baseball players have used steroids.... Thats my case and im sticking to it
                        Nonsense. I haven't heard of anyone in the game who thinks that Griffey ever used steroids.

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                        • Buckeyes_Doc
                          In Dalton I Trust
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 11918

                          #13
                          Re: All-Roids team vs. All-Clean team?

                          Originally posted by Seahawk76
                          Nonsense. I haven't heard of anyone in the game who thinks that Griffey ever used steroids.
                          Yeah true and to say ALL baseball players are cheaters is ridiculous. How many names were their like 100 something right? And how many players play professional baseball? Most players are clean good guys yet the media has focused on the players who have been busted have all been high-profile players, making people like them think that well since A-Rod and Bonds and Manny uses them all baseball players must use them.
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                          • fugazi
                            MVP
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 3749

                            #14
                            Re: All-Roids team vs. All-Clean team?

                            i think an all clean team could do a lot of damage.

                            1, i don't think you can find, say, 5 quality pitchers (starters and relievers) that were juicing.

                            2, Andre Dawson, Ryne Sandberg, Ozzie Smith, Tony Gwynn, Joe Carter, Fred McGriff, Cal Ripken, Rickey Henderson(?), Mike Schmidt...

                            Yeah, you could get a great team, and i think they would whoop ***.
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                            • dave374
                              Banned
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 1928

                              #15
                              Re: All-Roids team vs. All-Clean team?

                              I don't doubt there were clean players in the dirty era, but I think a lot of you guys would be really dejected at the percentage of players who weren't.

                              I still feel that Cal Ripken will eventually be exposed, which is so sad.

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