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  • stolf1
    Rookie
    • Dec 2002
    • 118

    #1

    Anyone have any hints on pitching in WSB 2K3

    Im getting hammered I was wondering if anyone had any hints on how to get people out. Gving up 8-10 runs per game.
  • Yaoza11
    Pro
    • Jan 2003
    • 796

    #2
    Re: Anyone have any hints on pitching in WSB 2K3

    return the game....


    jk.. change the sliders

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    • Yaoza11
      Pro
      • Jan 2003
      • 796

      #3
      Re: Anyone have any hints on pitching in WSB 2K3

      return the game....


      jk.. change the sliders

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      • mustardman
        Banned
        • Feb 2003
        • 447

        #4
        Re: Anyone have any hints on pitching in WSB 2K3

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        Im getting hammered I was wondering if anyone had any hints on how to get people out. Gving up 8-10 runs per game.

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        Hi stolf1

        Perhaps I can offer some valuable tips to you, on how to successfully pitch in WSB 2K3. Lately I've been giving up around 4 runs per game, give or take a couple of runs. My team ERA is 4.38.

        Turn the vibration mode off. This will make things tougher for you, and if you're giving up a lot of runs with it on, then you're in for some rough games. When you figure out how to pitch successfully, it having vibration mode set to OFF will be the difference between realistic and unrealistic pitching.

        In real life, it's ALWAYS best to try and keep the ball down. As your pitchers tire, either your pitches will be TOO low, or they will be hanging over the plate. This happens when you're pitching down in the strike zone.

        Pitching down in the strike zone oftens results in more grounders and hits, but less home runs and drives deep into the gaps.

        There are hitters in the game that are "free swingers". Ken Griffey, Jr. in the game happens to be one. So, here comes my conflicting advice. In his case, you DON'T throw stuff down because he'll easily pull it over the wall. What you do is throw so that the pitches land in the very top of the strike zone, and on his side of the plate. What happens is that if any contact is made, it usually is a blooper or a chopped grounder. This is realistic.

        When pitching to pitchers, they'll swing at just about anything. Still, you shouldn't take them for granted, because a perfect point of contact between the ball and bat will produce big hits no matter who the hitter is. That's real life stuff But, with pitchers and other weak hitters you can throw more garbage stuff, and get away with it.

        With just about any hitter, you want to throw AWAY from the hitter. As mentioned above, with Griffey, you throw it up and in trying to cuff him. Most of the time, you want the batter to have to lunge for the ball. Therefore, you pitche away and down.

        One of the best pitches in this game is the sinker. A sinker down in the zone is lethal to the hitter. Since most of the hitters are right-handed, a RHP throwing a sinker away from a leftie and toward a rightie is a recipe for success. All of my pitchers that have the sinker in their arsenal have some of the best ERA's on my team.

        Mix your pitches. I really don't know if the AI is sophisticated enough to recognize patterns in your pitchers. I'm thinking that isn't so, but it's fun to imagine that it is. So, just like in real life, try throwing back to back fastballs, then a changeup, to throw the timing off for the batter. If you're a rightie facing a rightie, then throw two fastballs down and away, then a changeup up and in.

        It's very tempting in WSB 2K3 to try and hang on for the moral victory with your pitcher. You feel compelled to see your pitchers succeed. Unfortunately, if it looks like the pither is getting hit, he probably is. If runners are on second and third, you better have someone warming up if you're not positive you can strike out a couple of hitters back to back. Conversely, if your pitcher is giving up a run every inning, or even every other inning, then you can assume that fatigue has reached the point where, for example, your starter is projected to give up four runs in 8 or 9 innings of work, but because of the fatigue being so low, he's bound to get crushed before it's too late.

        In this game, it appears that the fatigue isn't realistic. It seems you can pitch with relief pitchers in a lot of games, and they don't get tired. It does disappoint me, but it also provides the opportunity to go through 2-4 relief pitchers in a game. I like to imagine that constantly throwing new relief pitchers at the hitters allows you to keep the hitters off balance.

        Finally, seriously take into consideration WHO is pitching and WHO is hitting. If it's Sammy Sosa and it's late in the game, then give up the intentional walk. He may score, but that's only one run and not several, since it always seems he comes to the plate with men on. On the other hand, if you know a couple of lefties are coming up, then have a leftie warmed up and ready to go. That's called "specialty pitching" and it's effective.

        Happy pitching!

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        • mustardman
          Banned
          • Feb 2003
          • 447

          #5
          Re: Anyone have any hints on pitching in WSB 2K3

          </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
          Im getting hammered I was wondering if anyone had any hints on how to get people out. Gving up 8-10 runs per game.

          <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

          Hi stolf1

          Perhaps I can offer some valuable tips to you, on how to successfully pitch in WSB 2K3. Lately I've been giving up around 4 runs per game, give or take a couple of runs. My team ERA is 4.38.

          Turn the vibration mode off. This will make things tougher for you, and if you're giving up a lot of runs with it on, then you're in for some rough games. When you figure out how to pitch successfully, it having vibration mode set to OFF will be the difference between realistic and unrealistic pitching.

          In real life, it's ALWAYS best to try and keep the ball down. As your pitchers tire, either your pitches will be TOO low, or they will be hanging over the plate. This happens when you're pitching down in the strike zone.

          Pitching down in the strike zone oftens results in more grounders and hits, but less home runs and drives deep into the gaps.

          There are hitters in the game that are "free swingers". Ken Griffey, Jr. in the game happens to be one. So, here comes my conflicting advice. In his case, you DON'T throw stuff down because he'll easily pull it over the wall. What you do is throw so that the pitches land in the very top of the strike zone, and on his side of the plate. What happens is that if any contact is made, it usually is a blooper or a chopped grounder. This is realistic.

          When pitching to pitchers, they'll swing at just about anything. Still, you shouldn't take them for granted, because a perfect point of contact between the ball and bat will produce big hits no matter who the hitter is. That's real life stuff But, with pitchers and other weak hitters you can throw more garbage stuff, and get away with it.

          With just about any hitter, you want to throw AWAY from the hitter. As mentioned above, with Griffey, you throw it up and in trying to cuff him. Most of the time, you want the batter to have to lunge for the ball. Therefore, you pitche away and down.

          One of the best pitches in this game is the sinker. A sinker down in the zone is lethal to the hitter. Since most of the hitters are right-handed, a RHP throwing a sinker away from a leftie and toward a rightie is a recipe for success. All of my pitchers that have the sinker in their arsenal have some of the best ERA's on my team.

          Mix your pitches. I really don't know if the AI is sophisticated enough to recognize patterns in your pitchers. I'm thinking that isn't so, but it's fun to imagine that it is. So, just like in real life, try throwing back to back fastballs, then a changeup, to throw the timing off for the batter. If you're a rightie facing a rightie, then throw two fastballs down and away, then a changeup up and in.

          It's very tempting in WSB 2K3 to try and hang on for the moral victory with your pitcher. You feel compelled to see your pitchers succeed. Unfortunately, if it looks like the pither is getting hit, he probably is. If runners are on second and third, you better have someone warming up if you're not positive you can strike out a couple of hitters back to back. Conversely, if your pitcher is giving up a run every inning, or even every other inning, then you can assume that fatigue has reached the point where, for example, your starter is projected to give up four runs in 8 or 9 innings of work, but because of the fatigue being so low, he's bound to get crushed before it's too late.

          In this game, it appears that the fatigue isn't realistic. It seems you can pitch with relief pitchers in a lot of games, and they don't get tired. It does disappoint me, but it also provides the opportunity to go through 2-4 relief pitchers in a game. I like to imagine that constantly throwing new relief pitchers at the hitters allows you to keep the hitters off balance.

          Finally, seriously take into consideration WHO is pitching and WHO is hitting. If it's Sammy Sosa and it's late in the game, then give up the intentional walk. He may score, but that's only one run and not several, since it always seems he comes to the plate with men on. On the other hand, if you know a couple of lefties are coming up, then have a leftie warmed up and ready to go. That's called "specialty pitching" and it's effective.

          Happy pitching!

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          • Vince
            Bow for Bau
            • Aug 2002
            • 26017

            #6
            Re: Anyone have any hints on pitching in WSB 2K3

            Excellent post.

            I too hate the Relief pitchers who don't get tired.I may try lowering they're stam rating.

            Another thing like the above poster said is mix your pitches.Start with breaking balls in,then go with a fast up in the zone and if you are ahead go with the change low.....if you are up in the count 0-2 don't throw the ball so it gets the meat of the plate.make the hitter chase it.

            I too am a victim of wanting my starter to get the win too many times,thus leading me to big innings cause he gets tired.
            @ me or dap me

            http://twitter.com/52isthemike

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            • Vince
              Bow for Bau
              • Aug 2002
              • 26017

              #7
              Re: Anyone have any hints on pitching in WSB 2K3

              Excellent post.

              I too hate the Relief pitchers who don't get tired.I may try lowering they're stam rating.

              Another thing like the above poster said is mix your pitches.Start with breaking balls in,then go with a fast up in the zone and if you are ahead go with the change low.....if you are up in the count 0-2 don't throw the ball so it gets the meat of the plate.make the hitter chase it.

              I too am a victim of wanting my starter to get the win too many times,thus leading me to big innings cause he gets tired.
              @ me or dap me

              http://twitter.com/52isthemike

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              • kingsrock
                Rookie
                • May 2003
                • 17

                #8
                Re: Anyone have any hints on pitching in WSB 2K3

                Quote:
                Mix your pitches. I really don't know if the AI is sophisticated enough to recognize patterns in your pitchers. I'm thinking that isn't so, but it's fun to imagine that it is. So, just like in real life, try throwing back to back fastballs, then a changeup, to throw the timing off for the batter. If you're a rightie facing a rightie, then throw two fastballs down and away, then a changeup up and in.

                i think that the AI does recognize patterns a little bit. for instance, i like the feature that helps you remember what your last pitch set up was.after my first run thru the playoffs playing the same team 5 to 7 times, i started to know what the batters tendencies were like. if you throw the same spot as your last time or consistently follow the same pattern you will give up a HR. 2K games have always seemed to make you pay for going to the well too often and i think WSB does also.

                also, don't be afraid to throw into the hot zones if you want to get them out. just don't do it on the first pitch.

                i agree with everything else, btw.

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                • kingsrock
                  Rookie
                  • May 2003
                  • 17

                  #9
                  Re: Anyone have any hints on pitching in WSB 2K3

                  Quote:
                  Mix your pitches. I really don't know if the AI is sophisticated enough to recognize patterns in your pitchers. I'm thinking that isn't so, but it's fun to imagine that it is. So, just like in real life, try throwing back to back fastballs, then a changeup, to throw the timing off for the batter. If you're a rightie facing a rightie, then throw two fastballs down and away, then a changeup up and in.

                  i think that the AI does recognize patterns a little bit. for instance, i like the feature that helps you remember what your last pitch set up was.after my first run thru the playoffs playing the same team 5 to 7 times, i started to know what the batters tendencies were like. if you throw the same spot as your last time or consistently follow the same pattern you will give up a HR. 2K games have always seemed to make you pay for going to the well too often and i think WSB does also.

                  also, don't be afraid to throw into the hot zones if you want to get them out. just don't do it on the first pitch.

                  i agree with everything else, btw.

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                  • stolf1
                    Rookie
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 118

                    #10
                    Re: Anyone have any hints on pitching in WSB 2K3

                    Thank You so much for your help

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                    • stolf1
                      Rookie
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 118

                      #11
                      Re: Anyone have any hints on pitching in WSB 2K3

                      Thank You so much for your help

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                      • mustardman
                        Banned
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 447

                        #12
                        Re: Anyone have any hints on pitching in WSB 2K3

                        You're very welcome

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                        • mustardman
                          Banned
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 447

                          #13
                          Re: Anyone have any hints on pitching in WSB 2K3

                          You're very welcome

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