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  • Blzer
    Resident film pundit
    • Mar 2004
    • 42524

    #16
    Re: The Devil is still in Josh Hamilton

    Originally posted by gibbzilla558
    Hamilton admits that right after the incident he informed his wife and the Rangers organization, who then informed the MLB. He took responsibility for the incident. I mean what is he supposed to do? Hold a press conference?
    Okay, I didn't know he was responsible as he could be post-incident. Even still, I almost can't care less. I'll bring up Adenhart one more time, but it's as if the guy killed him and even reported himself thereafter instead of being a hit-and-run. Does that excuse what he did? Not one bit. His drinking led him spiraling to the impaired belief that he was invincible and could take the road with no problems. While this seems to hold true most of the time that the drunk driver walks away unharmed, he harmed four others.

    What if the same thing happened to Hamilton? What if he didn't think a little more incumbentally and he decided to get behind a wheel instead of doing what he did? The drinking act wasn't a "mistake." Anything after? Sure... just an act of being intoxicated. Doesn't excuse the fact, but obviously he has an alcohol problem so he must avoid it. I have a peanut problem, so I avoid it. Simple.

    It's a sensitive subject for me for no reason other than I don't ever want something to come back to me or people I'm close to because I feel that drinking is an irresponsible manner in the first place. IMO it comes at complete disregard for your own health and others' well being around you. Only my opinion and only my stance. And then because he was able to rehabilitate himself and become more than successful as a mid-lineup offensive threat, suddenly his story becomes as feel-good as ever. I find it distasteful that we can even find any good in a player bouncing back to where every other athlete is already at, especially when they always have a choice.
    Last edited by Blzer; 08-08-2009, 07:31 PM.
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    • Sportsforever
      NL MVP
      • Mar 2005
      • 20368

      #17
      Re: The Devil is still in Josh Hamilton

      Originally posted by Blzer
      Okay, I didn't know he was responsible as he could be post-incident. Even still, I almost can't care less. I'll bring up Adenhart one more time, but it's as if the guy killed him and even reported himself thereafter instead of being a hit-and-run. Does that excuse what he did? Not one bit. His drinking led him spiraling to the impaired belief that he was invincible and could take the road with no problems. While this seems to hold true most of the time that the drunk driver walks away unharmed, he harmed four others.

      What if the same thing happened to Hamilton? What if he didn't think a little more incumbentally and he decided to get behind a wheel instead of doing what he did? The drinking act wasn't a "mistake." Anything after? Sure... just an act of being intoxicated. Doesn't excuse the fact, but obviously he has an alcohol problem so he must avoid it. I have a peanut problem, so I avoid it. Simple.

      It's a sensitive subject for me for no reason other than I don't ever want something to come back to me or people I'm close to because I feel that drinking is an irresponsible manner in the first place. IMO it comes at complete disregard for your own health and others' well being around you. Only my opinion and only my stance. And then because he was able to rehabilitate himself and become more than successful as a mid-lineup offensive threat, suddenly his story becomes as feel-good as ever. I find it distasteful that we can even find any good in a player bouncing back to where every other athlete is already at, especially when they always have a choice.
      Come on Blzer...you didn't just compare drinking, driving, and killing 3 people to going out for a night on the town? Not even in the same league...this is between him, his wife, and whoever else is involved with making sure he stays clean.
      "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

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      • Blzer
        Resident film pundit
        • Mar 2004
        • 42524

        #18
        Re: The Devil is still in Josh Hamilton

        Originally posted by Sportsforever
        Come on Blzer...you didn't just compare drinking, driving, and killing 3 people to going out for a night on the town? Not even in the same league...this is between him, his wife, and whoever else is involved with making sure he stays clean.
        You're right, that idea is ludicrous when you think about it that way.

        I'm just saying that if he performed an action of inebriation that he would otherwise regret if sober, then they can be slotted into the same league for comparison's sake. Impaired judgment is impaired judgment, and if it's something that he knew he would have to be apologetic for later, they relate in my honest opinion. I know the actions themselves are not the same thing, but they derive from similar preludes.
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        • Scottdau
          Banned
          • Feb 2003
          • 32580

          #19
          Re: The Devil is still in Josh Hamilton

          How do we know it is him besides all the tattoos?

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          • bucksfan07
            Pro
            • Nov 2006
            • 827

            #20
            Re: The Devil is still in Josh Hamilton

            Originally posted by Sportsforever
            Come on Blzer...you didn't just compare drinking, driving, and killing 3 people to going out for a night on the town? Not even in the same league...this is between him, his wife, and whoever else is involved with making sure he stays clean.
            exactly, what he did was wrong mainly between him and his wife; he had a relapse in drinking Not drugs so as long as he and his wife have patched things up, it's not that big of news story. I hope he stays completely clean, though, because he seems like a great guy and fun player to watch.

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            • J0nnD0ugh
              Hall Of Fame
              • Feb 2003
              • 16602

              #21
              Re: The Devil is still in Josh Hamilton

              Why is it that the celebrity has his face presented for all to see, but the drunken trollops need their identity hidden?
              Originally posted by VP Richard M. Nixon
              I always remember that whatever I have done in the past, or may do in the future, Duke University is responsible one way or the other.
              -August 17, 1960
              Thanks, dookies!

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              • stewaat

                #22
                Re: The Devil is still in Josh Hamilton

                Why isn't he grinding on hotter females? They seem pretty average for a millionaire.

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                • Blzer
                  Resident film pundit
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 42524

                  #23
                  Re: The Devil is still in Josh Hamilton

                  Originally posted by stewaat
                  Why isn't he grinding on hotter females? They seem pretty average for a millionaire.
                  Like I said, drinking impairs one's better judgment.
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                  • PVarck31
                    Moderator
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 16869

                    #24
                    Re: The Devil is still in Josh Hamilton

                    Hmmm I don't think anyone can say he relapsed from this pic. Having a drink is a far cry from doing blow and heroin.

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                    • BunnyHardaway
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 15195

                      #25
                      Re: The Devil is still in Josh Hamilton

                      Originally posted by Scottdau
                      How do we know it is him besides all the tattoos?
                      Yeah, I feel bad for him, he really f'd his body up with tattoos when he was an addict. I'd load up on about 93 tubes of Wrecking Balm if I were him.

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                      • Marino
                        Moderator
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 18113

                        #26
                        Re: The Devil is still in Josh Hamilton

                        Originally posted by stewaat
                        Why isn't he grinding on hotter females? They seem pretty average for a millionaire.
                        I agree. No way do I hit on girls with blocks on there eyes.

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                        • 55
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 20857

                          #27
                          Re: The Devil is still in Josh Hamilton

                          He has a sub .700 OPS right now and is therefore irrelevant.

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                          • Ewing
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 863

                            #28
                            Re: The Devil is still in Josh Hamilton

                            Originally posted by Dislimb
                            He has a sub .700 OPS right now and is therefore irrelevant.
                            He's had nagging injuries all year, of course his production sucks.

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                            • SPTO
                              binging
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 68046

                              #29
                              Re: The Devil is still in Josh Hamilton

                              Drugs and liquor are hard habits to shake off. I feel sorry for him if he did truly fall off the wagon. It's not surprising that it happened as the life of a famous athlete opens up doors to those kind of things.

                              I just hope he's clean now and hasn't returned to taking drugs.
                              Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

                              "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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                              • 24
                                Forever A Legend
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 2809

                                #30
                                Re: The Devil is still in Josh Hamilton

                                regardless he is ripped. no wonder why he it those 28 homers in the derby


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