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  • Sandman42
    Hall Of Fame
    • Aug 2004
    • 15186

    #16
    Re: 2009 Award Predictions

    Jeter WAR: 6.4
    Teixeira WAR: 4.9

    Jeter's RangeRuns:
    2007: -16
    2008: -3.2
    2009: 2.2

    Yes, Jeter's defense did improve, but I doubt Teixeira's ability to scoop balls on throws helped improve Jeter's range at getting to balls.
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    • P2K
      Banned
      • Aug 2006
      • 8845

      #17
      Re: 2009 Award Predictions

      Originally posted by TeixeiraFanatic
      People say "RBI don't matter" and "home-runs don't make a great player" which I think is true and I still don't think Ryan Howard should've won the MVP in 2006 because he didn't play near as good defensivly as Pujols.
      Pujols is about to win back-to-back MVPs. Why does 2006 still sting?

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      • CMH
        Making you famous
        • Oct 2002
        • 26203

        #18
        Re: 2009 Award Predictions

        Originally posted by Sandman42
        NL ROY - Edinson Volquez
        Oooh, I see what you did there.

        Maybe this is the year he finally gets enough votes to win it.
        "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

        "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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        • snepp
          We'll waste him too.
          • Apr 2003
          • 10007

          #19
          Re: 2009 Award Predictions

          Originally posted by TeixeiraFanatic
          And I'm not taking anything away from Joe Mauer because he is a fantastic player and could have a shot at hitting .400 in a season.

          But as good as he's been if he wins the AL MVP and Carpenter doesn't win the CY Young, I will be mad. Because people will say that Carp didn't win it cause he was injured, well so was Mauer. Even if Mauer plays the remainding games the Twins play, he will have played 25 games less than the maximum he could have.

          Yes I know he's a catcher and he deserves days off. So lets give him 10 days off. That's 15 games that he misses which is equal to 3 starts for a pitcher ( currently the number of games started Carp is behind Lincecum )

          So If you say that Lincecum would win over Carp because he was injured, the same could be said for Mauer.

          There's a problem with this line of thinking. Mauer is actually having a much, much better season than Teixeira is, while Carpenter isn't having a better season than Lincecum. The situations are not the same.
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          • snepp
            We'll waste him too.
            • Apr 2003
            • 10007

            #20
            Re: 2009 Award Predictions

            Originally posted by TeixeiraFanatic
            If that's the case then Carpenter should be up there aswell ( which he still is but not that high )

            He has 2 more wins and 1 less loss than Lincecum, Has given up 8 less hits in 3 three less starts because of him missing pretty much the entire month of May.

            His GO/AO (groundouts per fly-outs ratio) his almost 1.00 higher so if the Giants didn't play in such a pitcher-friendly park might have given up a lot more than 9 home-runs.

            Carpenter has been just as fortunate in the HR department as Lincecum. His HR/FB% of 4.8% is much, much lower than what should be expected. If they both had league average HR rates they each would have allowed an additional 7 HR's on the year. Looks like a wash.

            Carpenter is also sporting a much lower BABIP than expected and subsequently a higher LOB% than normal. Meanwhile Lincecum is putting his numbers up with normal marks in these areas.

            Carpenter has been fantastic, but Lincecum's numbers are slightly better, in considerably more innings, and without the aid of the additional luck that Carpenter has experienced.
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            • NYJets
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jul 2002
              • 18637

              #21
              Re: 2009 Award Predictions

              Mauer is the clear MVP.

              However, as a Yankee fan I would like Jeter to take it to make up for not getting it in 06.
              Originally posted by Jay Bilas
              The question isn't whether UConn belongs with the elites, but over the last 20 years, whether the rest of the college basketball elite belongs with UConn

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              • Wet Bandit
                MVP
                • Apr 2009
                • 1746

                #22
                Re: 2009 Award Predictions

                Originally posted by NYJets
                Mauer is the clear MVP.

                However, as a Yankee fan I would like Jeter to take it to make up for not getting it in 06.
                This seems to be a relatively common sentiment among Yankees fans. But you know who arguably got robbed even more than Jeter that year?

                Joe Mauer.

                Mauer had a higher BA, OBP, and SLG% than Jeter that year, while playing better defense at a more difficult and arguably more important defensive position.

                But yeah, Mauer's the obvious choice this year. I just don't think that Yankee fans should settle in with the idea of, "Well, if Jeter or Tex wins it, that'll make up for '06", because that very well could mean that Mauer gets robbed twice.

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                • NYJets
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 18637

                  #23
                  Re: 2009 Award Predictions

                  Yea that's true.

                  Mauer will get it I think. They've messed MVP's up before, but I don't know if they could mess it up this bad. What he's doing is incredible.
                  Originally posted by Jay Bilas
                  The question isn't whether UConn belongs with the elites, but over the last 20 years, whether the rest of the college basketball elite belongs with UConn

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                  • Kashanova
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 12695

                    #24
                    Re: 2009 Award Predictions

                    Originally posted by Sandman42
                    If a Yankee were to win MVP (which they shouldn't) it should be Jeter and not Teixeira.

                    AL MVP - Mauer
                    NL MVP - Pujols

                    AL Cy Young - Greinke
                    NL Cy Young - Lincecum

                    AL ROY - Andrus
                    NL ROY - Edinson Volquez
                    why volquez? he hasn't pitched most of the year

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                    • Sandman42
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 15186

                      #25
                      Re: 2009 Award Predictions

                      Originally posted by Kashanova
                      why volquez? he hasn't pitched most of the year
                      It was a joke. He received some votes for the ROY last year when he wasn't even a rookie.
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                      • Marino
                        Moderator
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 18113

                        #26
                        Re: 2009 Award Predictions

                        AL MVP- Mauer
                        NL MVP- Pujols

                        AL Cy Young- Grienke
                        NL Cy Young- Carpenter

                        AL ROY- Reimold
                        NL ROY- Coughlin

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                        • Gibbz
                          All Star
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 8240

                          #27
                          Re: 2009 Award Predictions

                          American League

                          MVP: Joe Mauer
                          Cy Young: Zack Greinke
                          Rookie of the Year: Elvis Andrus

                          National League

                          MVP: Albert Pujols
                          Cy Young: Tim Lincecum edges out Carpenter.
                          Rookie of the Year: Chris Coghlan

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                          • redsoxallday
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 404

                            #28
                            Re: 2009 Award Predictions

                            Originally posted by NYJets
                            Mauer is the clear MVP.

                            However, as a Yankee fan I would like Jeter to take it to make up for not getting it in 06.
                            LOL how do you think Sox fans feel about Schilling not winning CY Young in 04' and Beckett not winning it in 07 LOL still pisses me off

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                            • snepp
                              We'll waste him too.
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 10007

                              #29
                              Re: 2009 Award Predictions

                              Originally posted by redsoxallday
                              LOL how do you think Sox fans feel about Schilling not winning CY Young in 04' and Beckett not winning it in 07 LOL still pisses me off
                              How do they feel? Neither one of them were snubbed in some terrible way.

                              WAR (award winner listed first)

                              2004
                              Santana - 7.7
                              Schilling - 7.3

                              2007
                              Sabathia - 7.2
                              Beckett - 6.5

                              2006
                              Morneau - 4.4
                              Jeter - 6.3

                              One of these is not like the other.
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                              • tyler289
                                MVP
                                • Jul 2006
                                • 2933

                                #30
                                Re: 2009 Award Predictions

                                NL 3B gold glove: Ryan Zimmerman

                                The only award any National deserves.

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