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  • Sportsforever
    NL MVP
    • Mar 2005
    • 20368

    #1486
    Re: Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?

    I know there are a lot of new guys on the ballot this year (Vlad Guerrero better get in), but IMO they need to get Raines and Bagwell in there before anyone else (not even going to mention the Bonds/Clemens travesty).
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    • DrJones
      All Star
      • Mar 2003
      • 9109

      #1487
      Re: Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?

      Go ahead, BBWAA voters. Make my day.



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      Dr. Jones was right in stating that. We should have believed him.
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      • redsox4evur
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jul 2013
        • 18169

        #1488
        Re: Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?

        Bud Selig, yay or nay?


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        • TripleCrown9
          Keep the Faith
          • May 2010
          • 23705

          #1489
          Re: Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?

          Yes from me.

          Selig oversaw baseball through the 1994 strike, the introduction of the wild card, interleague play, and the merging of the National and American Leagues under the Office of the Commissioner. He was instrumental in organizing the World Baseball Classic in 2006. Selig also introduced revenue sharing. He is credited for the financial turnaround of baseball during his tenure with a 400 percent increase in the revenue of MLB and annual record breaking attendance.
          And that's just a basic overview of what he did.
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          • redsox4evur
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jul 2013
            • 18169

            #1490
            Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?

            Originally posted by TripleCrown9
            Yes from me.



            And that's just a basic overview of what he did.

            He's a yea for me as well. Also one thing I didn't see listed was that he kept a Labor Peace for 20 straight years after the 94 strike.

            And I should change the question to does he deserve to be in as he just inducted.


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            • TripleCrown9
              Keep the Faith
              • May 2010
              • 23705

              #1491
              Re: Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?

              His biggest knock is "This time, it counts".
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              • Speedy
                #Ace
                • Apr 2008
                • 16143

                #1492
                Re: Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?

                Originally posted by redsox4evur
                Bud Selig, yay or nay?


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                Nope.

                Guy did nothing but profit from a steroid era that in many views tainted an era and it literally took congress to make him do something.
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                • SPTO
                  binging
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 68046

                  #1493
                  Re: Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?

                  Originally posted by Speedy
                  Nope.

                  Guy did nothing but profit from a steroid era that in many views tainted an era and it literally took congress to make him do something.
                  Let's not forget he gave us interleague play UGH.

                  He does have a couple positive points, MLB does have the most stringent drug testing in all of North American sports, the replay system is generally a good idea, the massive TV deal wouldn't have been possible without him.

                  Still, as the only commissioner in MLB history to oversee a year without a world series and a franchise relocating as well as the Steroid Era are too many black marks on his resume. I'd have waited until after he dies to bestow this honor upon him but it is what it is.

                  Love the fact that Schuerholz is going in the Hall though.
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                  • DamnYanks2
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 20794

                    #1494
                    Re: Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?

                    Selig had a complicated tenure, he did some good for the league, and he did some bad, Leaders will never be perfect, and the steroid era, put him in a very uncomfortable, difficult spot.

                    But he handled it so poorly, with his shameless witch hunts, and slow leaking of names, and your the commissioner, and you have no idea, steroids are running rampant under your watch? I find that hard to believe, and to me that ultimately defines his legacy.

                    Should Selig be a nomination for the hall? Hell no.

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                    • TripleCrown9
                      Keep the Faith
                      • May 2010
                      • 23705

                      #1495
                      Re: Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?

                      Originally posted by DamnYanks2
                      Selig had a complicated tenure, he did some good for the league, and he did some bad, Leaders will never be perfect, and the steroid era, put him in a very uncomfortable, difficult spot.

                      But he handled it so poorly, with his shameless witch hunts, and slow leaking of names, and your the commissioner, and you have no idea, steroids are running rampant under your watch? I find that hard to believe, and to me that ultimately defines his legacy.

                      Should Selig be a nomination for the hall? Hell no.

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                      Well it's a good thing he's not a nomination.
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                      • DamnYanks2
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 20794

                        #1496
                        Re: Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?

                        Originally posted by TripleCrown9
                        Well it's a good thing he's not a nomination.
                        You know what I mean, he shouldn't even be in the discussion. He's just gonna be inducted without a voting process, kind of a joke.

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                        • ImTellinTim
                          YNWA
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 33028

                          #1497
                          Re: Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?

                          Bud Selig and Tony LaRussa - two of the biggest enablers of players taking steroids - are in. Time to let them all in then.

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                          • redsox4evur
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Jul 2013
                            • 18169

                            #1498
                            Re: Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?



                            Great article on why one voted completely changed the way he voted.
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                            • Caulfield
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 10986

                              #1499
                              Re: Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?

                              I hate the idea of Selig going into the Hall and I esp. will hate it if he goes in before the Big Stein, but its inevitable Bud goes in at some point. And since Selig is the second worst commish in MLB history behind Bowie Kuhn, and Kuhn is in the HoF, its only a matter of time before Buds enshrined. If either of those two buffoons hadnt served in the commisioner role as long as they did, they wouldnt even sniff Cooperstown. And while I havent been a Yankee fan since Bucky Dent was traded away, I recognise Steinbrenner will go in, even if its just for his purse strings. I also think the way Seinfeld portrayed him softened him up for me and made him more palatable. Loved it when Frank Costanza yelled at Steinbrenner "You dont know what the hell youre doing!" in regards to the Jay Buhner-Ken Phelps trade.
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                              • ImTellinTim
                                YNWA
                                • Sep 2006
                                • 33028

                                #1500
                                Re: Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?

                                ^ Selig's already been announced. He's in at the next ceremony.

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