Realignment ideas from Rosenthal

[Bondgirl0072]

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Do you guys think the Realignment will happen?

[jasontoddwhitt]

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Jim Bowden is off his rocker...any Reds fan knows this. Trading Paul O'Neill for Roberto Kelly, trading Bobby Ayala and Dan Wilson for Bret Boone (pre-steroids) and Erik Hanson, trading David Wells for Curtis Goodwin, trading Bret Boone (who was just starting to come around with the roids) and Mike Remlinger (who was a shut down middle relief guy towards the end of his career) for Denny Neagle (bum), Rob Bell (uber bum) and Michael Tucker (eh), trading Paul Konerko for Mike Cameron, trading for Griffey (mostly because it completely destroyed the clubhouse mentality that Jack McKeon had built in 98 and 99). His drafting of 5-tool guys....I could go on. Can't say I don't miss Leatherpants.

As for the idea of going back to a non-division format, I'm all for it. But I'm not sure about the 15 teams in each league. This is going to cause some strange scheduling, and you'll have to have interleague play all-season long, something I'm very much against.

I think baseball either needs to contract two teams to get to 28teams (which opens up a whole other can of worms), or add two teams to get to 32.

[fugazi]

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No need to contract or expand.

Realign into the "old" divisions...2 divisions per league. so what if there are 16 and 14 in the NL and AL respectively?

I would rather see the top 4 make the playoffs, than the top 5....

and more than that, i would rather see a Ladder Format for the post-season...to do this you would have to have only 1 division per league...

BUT IMAGINE HOW VALUABLE 1st place would be! And even 2nd.

Say...4 teams from each team make the postseason...#4 plays #3 in a 3-game set, no off day. Winner plays #2 in a best of 5, one off day. Winner plays #1 in a best of 7.

5 teams in the playoffs from each league is crazy. How would that look, anyway?

[rsox]

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Honestly, i think at some point we are going to end up with an NBA/NHL style "seeding" where the top 8 teams in each league make the playoffs.

[CMH]

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Honestly, i think at some point we are going to end up with an NBA/NHL style "seeding" where the top 8 teams in each league make the playoffs.

I think the only reason why baseball hasn't done this is because of weather.

I know people say they could cut the season, but that is a money problem. Because more rounds in the playoffs = more money. MLB would probably love to do that. But, more money in the playoffs is more money for teams in the playoffs, whereas less games means less money for teams not in the playoffs.

It's about weather. No other major sport has this problem.

[GeneralMike]

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Instead of moving the Astros who have been in the NL for 50 years, I'd prefer to see them move the Brewers to the AL, since they were an AL team from their inception until 1998.

[rsox]

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I think the only reason why baseball hasn't done this is because of weather.

I know people say they could cut the season, but that is a money problem. Because more rounds in the playoffs = more money. MLB would probably love to do that. But, more money in the playoffs is more money for teams in the playoffs, whereas less games means less money for teams not in the playoffs.

It's about weather. No other major sport has this problem.

They wouldn't really have to shorten the season in terms of cutting out games. They could shorten the season by scheduling regular Double Headers throughout the season. They could still keep (at least) the first round of playoffs best-of-5 and not schedule the games to make the networks happy. Between Fox, ESPN, MLB Network, and TBS there are more than enough networks and tv time to go around.

[kehlis]

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They wouldn't really have to shorten the season in terms of cutting out games. They could shorten the season by scheduling regular Double Headers throughout the season. They could still keep (at least) the first round of playoffs best-of-5 and not schedule the games to make the networks happy. Between Fox, ESPN, MLB Network, and TBS there are more than enough networks and tv time to go around.

This is my idea as well.

If you schedule 3 doubleheaders a month, you are shaving 15 days off the schedule, it may seem minuscule but that is time towards the playoffs.

I think the misconception with doubleheaders is that they have to be played on weekends when in fact the best time for them to be played is before days off whether that be on a weekend or during the week.


As far as re-alignment goes, I guess I don't see the need. I wouldn't be opposed to going back to a two division format or completely getting rid of the unbalanced schedule but it just seems like the realignment discussion was started (not here) just because periodically people want to see change.

[IlliniM1ke]

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True but still have to plan on there being some rain outs, what about the days you schedule a double header and it storms all day, instead of having to reschedule one game now you need to reschedule two games.

Wouldn't happen a lot I'm sure but last month in St. Louis the weather was plain nuts pretty much the entire month of May for example.

I just can't see the playoffs ever expanding that much and really the small amount of teams that make the playoffs in baseball makes reaching the postseason all the more special, over half the NBA and NHL make the playoffs which takes some of the shine off of it.

[Bahnzo]

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Instead of moving the Astros who have been in the NL for 50 years, I'd prefer to see them move the Brewers to the AL, since they were an AL team from their inception until 1998.

As far as re-alignment goes, I guess I don't see the need. I wouldn't be opposed to going back to a two division format or completely getting rid of the unbalanced schedule but it just seems like the realignment discussion was started (not here) just because periodically people want to see change.

There is a need, simply because the leagues are unbalanced as well as the divisions. There shouldn't be a division with 6 teams and one with 4.

Moving the Astros makes the most sense. It takes the team from the 6 team division, and moves it to the 4 team. Not only does it rebalance the leagues and divisions, but it creates a rivalry for both the Astros and the Rangers.

Moving the Brewers to the AL west makes absolutely no sense at all....

[RockinDaMike]

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Dbacks CEO Hall will consider moving to AL if MLB wants to realign: http://arizona.diamondbacks.mlb.com/...s_ari&c_id=ari

I'm all for it if we move to the AL West. Plus there are a lot of people from the midwest that live here and would love to see the Tigers/Indians here. Of course it doesn't hurt when we sell out whenever the Yankee's/Red sox come here.

[IlliniM1ke]

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There is a need, simply because the leagues are unbalanced as well as the divisions. There shouldn't be a division with 6 teams and one with 4.

Moving the Astros makes the most sense. It takes the team from the 6 team division, and moves it to the 4 team. Not only does it rebalance the leagues and divisions, but it creates a rivalry for both the Astros and the Rangers.

Moving the Brewers to the AL west makes absolutely no sense at all....

May not make sense but its a need in the current setup to avoid having to play an interleague series all season long.

If you go 15/15 you are committing to season long interleague play.

[Bahnzo]

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May not make sense but its a need in the current setup to avoid having to play an interleague series all season long.

If you go 15/15 you are committing to season long interleague play.

I have no idea what you mean.....I assume you are talking about the Brewers but I don't understand the rest.

[Bondgirl0072]

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Fair play at root of realignment

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/MLB-realignment-talks-fair-competition

[Knight165]

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I have no idea what you mean.....I assume you are talking about the Brewers but I don't understand the rest.

He is saying that you would either need BOTH leagues to be an the same-even number of teams(two 14 or 16 team leagues) or one 14 and 16 team league in order to avoid the "odd" team from having to play the other "odd" team all season long, thus there being interleague play during the entire season.
(I think this is what you are alluding to)

IMO the leagues are too big now to go back to the "all in one" setup like what it was when it was only 8 teams.

M.K.
Knight165