Where should I start?

[BatsareBugs]

Re: Where should I start?

I've started two years ago, but I think those little leaguers are better than me, unless they're my age, which I'm beginning to suspect with guys 6 feet tall already.

[maverick99]

Re: Where should I start?

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Yes, but it is not as important because you are not pushing off a rubber in the OF.

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I'm not a fan of the pushing off the rubber theory. Pushing off creates timing problems, it i rather the force of your hips pulling your foot off the rubber that helps create velocity. Sure some people utilize the Drop-and-drive technique, so it does work for some people, but not most. You would hav to be able to maintain your timing.
If anything the only thing missing when throwing from the outfield is a mound.


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I played one year as an outfielder in 4th grade and never played after that because I hated my coach. It's a good thing I did, or I would probably have had elbow surgery already.

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A bad coach shouldn't make you quit. I've had several bad coaches in my 10 years. I don't think i could ver leave the game. And how do you think you would have had arm surgery already as an outfielder? I've pitched since i was 8, 7 years. Not once have i had arm pain or tendinitis or anything else other people my age complain about. The only thing that has caused me to miss a start was a pulled ribcage muscle that happened during batting practice. I'm sorry but i just don't buy into this "everyone is ruining their arm thing" There are so many people out there who have or will pitch(ed) well into the later years of their life.

[maverick99]

Re: Where should I start?

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Yes, but it is not as important because you are not pushing off a rubber in the OF.

<hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

I'm not a fan of the pushing off the rubber theory. Pushing off creates timing problems, it i rather the force of your hips pulling your foot off the rubber that helps create velocity. Sure some people utilize the Drop-and-drive technique, so it does work for some people, but not most. You would hav to be able to maintain your timing.
If anything the only thing missing when throwing from the outfield is a mound.


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I played one year as an outfielder in 4th grade and never played after that because I hated my coach. It's a good thing I did, or I would probably have had elbow surgery already.

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A bad coach shouldn't make you quit. I've had several bad coaches in my 10 years. I don't think i could ver leave the game. And how do you think you would have had arm surgery already as an outfielder? I've pitched since i was 8, 7 years. Not once have i had arm pain or tendinitis or anything else other people my age complain about. The only thing that has caused me to miss a start was a pulled ribcage muscle that happened during batting practice. I'm sorry but i just don't buy into this "everyone is ruining their arm thing" There are so many people out there who have or will pitch(ed) well into the later years of their life.

[maverick99]

Re: Where should I start?

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Yes, but it is not as important because you are not pushing off a rubber in the OF.

<hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

I'm not a fan of the pushing off the rubber theory. Pushing off creates timing problems, it i rather the force of your hips pulling your foot off the rubber that helps create velocity. Sure some people utilize the Drop-and-drive technique, so it does work for some people, but not most. You would hav to be able to maintain your timing.
If anything the only thing missing when throwing from the outfield is a mound.


</font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
I played one year as an outfielder in 4th grade and never played after that because I hated my coach. It's a good thing I did, or I would probably have had elbow surgery already.

<hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

A bad coach shouldn't make you quit. I've had several bad coaches in my 10 years. I don't think i could ver leave the game. And how do you think you would have had arm surgery already as an outfielder? I've pitched since i was 8, 7 years. Not once have i had arm pain or tendinitis or anything else other people my age complain about. The only thing that has caused me to miss a start was a pulled ribcage muscle that happened during batting practice. I'm sorry but i just don't buy into this "everyone is ruining their arm thing" There are so many people out there who have or will pitch(ed) well into the later years of their life.

[grismosw]

Re: Where should I start?

How many guys in the league are like Greg Maddux? A slim few, very few people can locate like Maddux. Once you get past HS if you can locate a 75 MPH your still gonna get hit hard. If your not throwing at least 84 teams aren't going to look at you, thats the bottom line. Maybe you guys would rather have 80 mph pitchers but it seems colleges and pro teams don't. Isn't that the opinion he was wanting that of a college or pro team?

I agree at 85 mph you are going to get hit if you can't locate or have no movement in High School, once you get to college you can throw 93+ and have a straight fastball...your still gonna get hit hard.

[grismosw]

Re: Where should I start?

How many guys in the league are like Greg Maddux? A slim few, very few people can locate like Maddux. Once you get past HS if you can locate a 75 MPH your still gonna get hit hard. If your not throwing at least 84 teams aren't going to look at you, thats the bottom line. Maybe you guys would rather have 80 mph pitchers but it seems colleges and pro teams don't. Isn't that the opinion he was wanting that of a college or pro team?

I agree at 85 mph you are going to get hit if you can't locate or have no movement in High School, once you get to college you can throw 93+ and have a straight fastball...your still gonna get hit hard.

[grismosw]

Re: Where should I start?

How many guys in the league are like Greg Maddux? A slim few, very few people can locate like Maddux. Once you get past HS if you can locate a 75 MPH your still gonna get hit hard. If your not throwing at least 84 teams aren't going to look at you, thats the bottom line. Maybe you guys would rather have 80 mph pitchers but it seems colleges and pro teams don't. Isn't that the opinion he was wanting that of a college or pro team?

I agree at 85 mph you are going to get hit if you can't locate or have no movement in High School, once you get to college you can throw 93+ and have a straight fastball...your still gonna get hit hard.

[mjb2124]

Re: Where should I start?

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grismosw said:
How many guys in the league are like Greg Maddux? A slim few, very few people can locate like Maddux. Once you get past HS if you can locate a 75 MPH your still gonna get hit hard. If your not throwing at least 84 teams aren't going to look at you, thats the bottom line. Maybe you guys would rather have 80 mph pitchers but it seems colleges and pro teams don't. Isn't that the opinion he was wanting that of a college or pro team?

I agree at 85 mph you are going to get hit if you can't locate or have no movement in High School, once you get to college you can throw 93+ and have a straight fastball...your still gonna get hit hard.

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I got ya and agree for the most part. I guess the emphasis I was trying to put on it was heat isn't everything. Having a 95+ fastball is great and will get you looked at, but if you never are able to locate that fastball, you're done. You can throw 105, but it doesn't matter without location. I remember a guy with the Tigers named Matt Anderson. He topped 100 regularly and was a top pick a few years ago out of Rice, but he hasn't amounted to squat because his 100 MPH heat is as straight as an arrow and major league hitters crushed it. I guess my main point was, throwing heat is great, but don't forget about the control aspect of pitching. That and learning how to setup hitters with certain sequences is the key to pitching IMO...

[mjb2124]

Re: Where should I start?

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grismosw said:
How many guys in the league are like Greg Maddux? A slim few, very few people can locate like Maddux. Once you get past HS if you can locate a 75 MPH your still gonna get hit hard. If your not throwing at least 84 teams aren't going to look at you, thats the bottom line. Maybe you guys would rather have 80 mph pitchers but it seems colleges and pro teams don't. Isn't that the opinion he was wanting that of a college or pro team?

I agree at 85 mph you are going to get hit if you can't locate or have no movement in High School, once you get to college you can throw 93+ and have a straight fastball...your still gonna get hit hard.

<hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

I got ya and agree for the most part. I guess the emphasis I was trying to put on it was heat isn't everything. Having a 95+ fastball is great and will get you looked at, but if you never are able to locate that fastball, you're done. You can throw 105, but it doesn't matter without location. I remember a guy with the Tigers named Matt Anderson. He topped 100 regularly and was a top pick a few years ago out of Rice, but he hasn't amounted to squat because his 100 MPH heat is as straight as an arrow and major league hitters crushed it. I guess my main point was, throwing heat is great, but don't forget about the control aspect of pitching. That and learning how to setup hitters with certain sequences is the key to pitching IMO...

[mjb2124]

Re: Where should I start?

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grismosw said:
How many guys in the league are like Greg Maddux? A slim few, very few people can locate like Maddux. Once you get past HS if you can locate a 75 MPH your still gonna get hit hard. If your not throwing at least 84 teams aren't going to look at you, thats the bottom line. Maybe you guys would rather have 80 mph pitchers but it seems colleges and pro teams don't. Isn't that the opinion he was wanting that of a college or pro team?

I agree at 85 mph you are going to get hit if you can't locate or have no movement in High School, once you get to college you can throw 93+ and have a straight fastball...your still gonna get hit hard.

<hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

I got ya and agree for the most part. I guess the emphasis I was trying to put on it was heat isn't everything. Having a 95+ fastball is great and will get you looked at, but if you never are able to locate that fastball, you're done. You can throw 105, but it doesn't matter without location. I remember a guy with the Tigers named Matt Anderson. He topped 100 regularly and was a top pick a few years ago out of Rice, but he hasn't amounted to squat because his 100 MPH heat is as straight as an arrow and major league hitters crushed it. I guess my main point was, throwing heat is great, but don't forget about the control aspect of pitching. That and learning how to setup hitters with certain sequences is the key to pitching IMO...