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  • kayfngee
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    • Jul 2003
    • 794

    #16
    Re: Brandon phillips... the best 2B in baseball.

    Brandon Phillips is very good defensively, but he is an average offensive player. He doesn't hit for a great average and he never walks.

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    • berenjena
      Pro
      • Jan 2008
      • 735

      #17
      Re: Brandon phillips... the best 2B in baseball.

      Originally posted by jake44np
      Now your just crazy!
      For what Phillips does for his team he is the best 2b in the game.
      One game he will lead off steal of base and play great defense.
      The next game he will bat fourth hit for power and play great defense.
      Then the next game he might bat second bunt a guy over and play great defense.
      The things the Reds ask him to do are just crazy and he does it all with out griping.
      Again for what he does for his team he is the best 2b in the game.
      Can Utley bat lead off?? And Utley is not even close to Brandon in the field.

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      • jake44np
        Post Like a Champion!
        • Jul 2002
        • 9563

        #18
        Re: Brandon phillips... the best 2B in baseball.

        Originally posted by berenjena
        Way to post a laughing face instead of disputing the facts I posted.
        Great post.
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        • jake44np
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          • Jul 2002
          • 9563

          #19
          Re: Brandon phillips... the best 2B in baseball.

          I understand Phillips isnt the hitter that Utley is but like I said he does more for his team then any 2B in baseball IMO.
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          • WWF80sKid
            All Star
            • Nov 2008
            • 7095

            #20
            Re: Brandon phillips... the best 2B in baseball.

            Who cares if some people think he's the best second basemen in the game? Seriously, this is the problem with message boards. People try to post their opinions, and then other people have to tell them they're wrong. If they want to think this, let them think this. If you have another opinion, that's fine. Doesn't mean you're wrong, and it doesn't mean the other person is wrong.

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            • steelcurtain311
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              • Feb 2009
              • 2087

              #21
              Re: Brandon phillips... the best 2B in baseball.

              I'd take Chase Utley over most PLAYERS in baseball, not just second baseman. The only thing with him are those nagging injuries. He's a ridiculous hitter and all around player.

              Phillips is good. Definitely not the best at his position. Got decent power, but nowhere near as well rounded at the plate as Utley, Pedroia, or Cano.

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              • Dog
                aka jnes12/JNes__
                • Aug 2008
                • 11846

                #22
                Re: Brandon phillips... the best 2B in baseball.

                Originally posted by jake44np
                Now your just crazy!
                For what Phillips does for his team he is the best 2b in the game.
                One game he will lead off steal of base and play great defense.
                The next game he will bat fourth hit for power and play great defense.
                Then the next game he might bat second bunt a guy over and play great defense.
                The things the Reds ask him to do are just crazy and he does it all with out griping.
                Again for what he does for his team he is the best 2b in the game.
                Can Utley bat lead off?? And Utley is not even close to Brandon in the field.
                Yes Utley can bat lead off if he was asked to.


                As for saying Utley isn't close to Phillips in the field, well, you haven't watch much Phillies games then. All those things you stated Utley can do, but he doesn't because he is such a great hitter. Why have him bunt or bat lead off when he can bat 3rd and drive the runs in? Saying Phillips is the best second basemen in baseball is laughable IMO.
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                • Speedy
                  #Ace
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 16143

                  #23
                  Re: Brandon phillips... the best 2B in baseball.

                  Originally posted by jake44np
                  I understand Phillips isnt the hitter that Utley is but like I said he does more for his team then any 2B in baseball IMO.
                  Jake, that's like me refuting the claim that Longoria is better than Chipper because of Chipper's MVP award, playoff experience and leadership in the clubhouse. I don't deny that Phillips is a gifted 2B but he certainly is not in the top 3 regarding performance...

                  His stat line this year: .272/.331/.760 with 18 HRs, 58 RBIs and 16 SBs. I don't see that as top-notch.
                  Originally posted by Gibson88
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                  • NYJets
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 18637

                    #24
                    Re: Brandon phillips... the best 2B in baseball.

                    Originally posted by Matt_GoBlue
                    Who cares if some people think he's the best second basemen in the game? Seriously, this is the problem with message boards. People try to post their opinions, and then other people have to tell them they're wrong. If they want to think this, let them think this. If you have another opinion, that's fine. Doesn't mean you're wrong, and it doesn't mean the other person is wrong.
                    That is what's right with message boards. If we didn't discuss people's opinions, there wouldn't be any need for message boards.
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                    • NYJets
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 18637

                      #25
                      Re: Brandon phillips... the best 2B in baseball.

                      Originally posted by jake44np
                      Can Utley bat lead off?? .
                      His OBP is .390. So yea, I think he could handle it. Hitting in different spots in the lineup does not make you a better player.
                      Originally posted by Jay Bilas
                      The question isn't whether UConn belongs with the elites, but over the last 20 years, whether the rest of the college basketball elite belongs with UConn

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                      • WWF80sKid
                        All Star
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 7095

                        #26
                        Re: Brandon phillips... the best 2B in baseball.

                        Originally posted by NYJets
                        That is what's right with message boards. If we didn't discuss people's opinions, there wouldn't be any need for message boards.
                        I think that being able to discuss is cool, but I don't like how people will straight up tell you you're wrong. If someone says they think Brandon Phillips is the best 2nd basemen in baseball, they have the right to say in their opinion, he is. I don't mind if other people debate, saying "I think it's this guy", but to tell someone they are completely wrong is ridiculous.

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                        • Speedy
                          #Ace
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 16143

                          #27
                          Re: Brandon phillips... the best 2B in baseball.

                          Originally posted by Matt_GoBlue
                          I think that being able to discuss is cool, but I don't like how people will straight up tell you you're wrong...to tell someone they are completely wrong is ridiculous.
                          Sour grapes, Matt?
                          Originally posted by Gibson88
                          Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
                          It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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                          • snepp
                            We'll waste him too.
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 10007

                            #28
                            Re: Brandon phillips... the best 2B in baseball.

                            This thread makes my head hurt.


                            Nick Punto is the best 2nd baseman in all of baseball. I don't have anything to support it though, other than a manure-spreader full of anecdotes.
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                            • Sportsforever
                              NL MVP
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 20368

                              #29
                              Re: Brandon phillips... the best 2B in baseball.

                              Originally posted by Matt_GoBlue
                              I think that being able to discuss is cool, but I don't like how people will straight up tell you you're wrong. If someone says they think Brandon Phillips is the best 2nd basemen in baseball, they have the right to say in their opinion, he is. I don't mind if other people debate, saying "I think it's this guy", but to tell someone they are completely wrong is ridiculous.
                              I don't think anyone's going to disagree that he has a right to an opinion. It's just that...his opinion, but that doesn't make him right. I could have an opinion that the sky is green, but I'm still wrong.

                              I see nothing wrong with people expressing their own opinions, but it helps if you back it up.
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                              • kayfngee
                                Pro
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 794

                                #30
                                Re: Brandon phillips... the best 2B in baseball.

                                Originally posted by jake44np
                                Now your just crazy!
                                For what Phillips does for his team he is the best 2b in the game.
                                One game he will lead off steal of base and play great defense.
                                The next game he will bat fourth hit for power and play great defense.
                                Then the next game he might bat second bunt a guy over and play great defense.
                                The things the Reds ask him to do are just crazy and he does it all with out griping.
                                Again for what he does for his team he is the best 2b in the game.
                                Can Utley bat lead off?? And Utley is not even close to Brandon in the field.
                                Brandon Phillips is not a good lead off hitter. He isn't as bad as Patterson or Taveras, but he still isn't good. He has an average batting average, and he doesn't walk enough to be a good lead off hitter. A good lead off hitter has to walk a good amount and should hit around .290 to .300.

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