Can Josh Hamilton and Mickey Mantle be compared to one another?

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  • steelcurtain311
    Banned
    • Feb 2009
    • 2087

    #31
    Re: Can Josh Hamilton and Mickey Mantle be compared to one another?

    Originally posted by moemoe24
    I read you post after I posted and saw where you said you wouldn't consider Hamilton a top 5 player. That's ludicrous. As of right now Hamilton is THE best player is baseball. Cano is right behind him but No one in baseball is better if you are talking about an all around player. I mean, have you seen him play CF? The guy reads the ball off the bat better than anyone. There's nothing he can't do.
    Albert Pujols is a better hitter than him on every level. Hamilton plays the tougher position, yeah, but it's not like Albert can't field either. You can call Hamilton the best CF in the game, but the best player? No.

    So Robbie Cano AND Josh Hamilton are 1 and 2 in the MLB? As if Joe Mauer and Albert Pujols didn't exist? C'mon, man. Then there's still the Longorias, Utley's (despite a lost year), and Cabreras of the world, too. Cano definitely is not a top 5 player, Hamilton maybe.

    So yeah, I am talking about best all around players, and all around, I'd take Albert over anyone on this planet, Mauer too, probably. It's not a knock on Hamilton either. He's still a great bet for MVP, though I'd give it to Mauer if you really wanted to define the award. Cabrera probably third.

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    • rsox
      All Star
      • Feb 2003
      • 6309

      #32
      Re: Can Josh Hamilton and Mickey Mantle be compared to one another?

      Hamilton is a good player and a nice feel good story of redemption but he is also a player who will probably not have staying power as he has already had to battle injuries the past two seasons. I don't see Hamilton playing into his late 30's/early 40's.

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      • lilbiggio
        MVP
        • Jun 2004
        • 2105

        #33
        Re: Can Josh Hamilton and Mickey Mantle be compared to one another?

        A lot of people look like they were knocking my Beltran comparison, but I still want to know who is playing in the game right now that switch hits and is/was a 5 tool CF.


        If Beltran had stayed healthy I think he was the closest one to Mantle. And by closest I mean nowehre in the same country, but closer than everybody else.

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        • 12
          Banned
          • Feb 2010
          • 4458

          #34
          Re: Can Josh Hamilton and Mickey Mantle be compared to one another?

          I don't know about the Mantle comparisons... I love the Mick, mainly because my dad grew up idolizing him, but I never saw him play. I know he was extremely talented but that was a different era.

          With that said, Josh Hamilton is INSANELY talented. He buried himself early in his life but it takes an amazing ballplayer to miss what, three years of pro ball while being addicted to drugs and then coming back to be an MVP type player? It is almost surreal and I doubt will ever really see anything like it again. He's one of my favorite ballplayers because he is battling his demons and doing what he loves. He may have hard days still but the guy has came so far and it's pretty amazing to see. I can't help but to root for the guy.

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          • RonnieG
            Banned
            • Sep 2010
            • 221

            #35
            Re: Can Josh Hamilton and Mickey Mantle be compared to one another?

            Hamilton is a better, more polished hitter. Mantle was a bigger physical freak.

            I realize Mantle hit for the cycle back in the day which meant that he could hit for average like Hamilton. But I think its more difficult to hit today.

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            • RonnieG
              Banned
              • Sep 2010
              • 221

              #36
              Re: Can Josh Hamilton and Mickey Mantle be compared to one another?

              Originally posted by Apostle
              I don't know about the Mantle comparisons... I love the Mick, mainly because my dad grew up idolizing him, but I never saw him play. I know he was extremely talented but that was a different era.

              With that said, Josh Hamilton is INSANELY talented. He buried himself early in his life but it takes an amazing ballplayer to miss what, three years of pro ball while being addicted to drugs and then coming back to be an MVP type player? It is almost surreal and I doubt will ever really see anything like it again. He's one of my favorite ballplayers because he is battling his demons and doing what he loves. He may have hard days still but the guy has came so far and it's pretty amazing to see. I can't help but to root for the guy.

              Hamilton might be the closest thing MLB has ever had to Roy Hobbs.

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              • steelcurtain311
                Banned
                • Feb 2009
                • 2087

                #37
                Re: Can Josh Hamilton and Mickey Mantle be compared to one another?

                A lot of people look like they were knocking my Beltran comparison, but I still want to know who is playing in the game right now that switch hits and is/was a 5 tool CF.
                Beltran hasn't ever lived up to half his expectations. We've heard for years how many tools the guy has, how great he is, we seen him go off in one postseason and then sign a giant contract to play like one season of it. There's been questioning of his heart and attitude the whole time.

                Sorry, I don't buy Carlos Beltran, never have. It's always just been talk. He's never delivered and I doubt he ever will, since he isn't a young man anymore.

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                • Sportsforever
                  NL MVP
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 20368

                  #38
                  Re: Can Josh Hamilton and Mickey Mantle be compared to one another?

                  Originally posted by RonnieG
                  Hamilton is a better, more polished hitter. Mantle was a bigger physical freak.

                  I realize Mantle hit for the cycle back in the day which meant that he could hit for average like Hamilton. But I think its more difficult to hit today.
                  You do realize that in his hey-day Mantle DID hit for average (in fact, he has the highest average ever for a switch hitter in a single season with .365). That said, it's hard to compare players from era to era. I do know that Mantle was at a higher level compared to his peers than Hamilton is to his. Let's also not forget that Hamilton has had one great year, one good year, and a couple of injury plagued years.
                  "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

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                  • RonnieG
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 221

                    #39
                    Re: Can Josh Hamilton and Mickey Mantle be compared to one another?

                    Originally posted by RonnieG
                    Hamilton is a better, more polished hitter. Mantle was a bigger physical freak.

                    I realize Mantle hit for the cycle back in the day which meant that he could hit for average like Hamilton. But I think its more difficult to hit today.
                    Originally posted by Sportsforever
                    You do realize that in his hey-day Mantle DID hit for average (in fact, he has the highest average ever for a switch hitter in a single season with .365). That said, it's hard to compare players from era to era. I do know that Mantle was at a higher level compared to his peers than Hamilton is to his. Let's also not forget that Hamilton has had one great year, one good year, and a couple of injury plagued years.
                    You should read the whole post.

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                    • Sportsforever
                      NL MVP
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 20368

                      #40
                      Re: Can Josh Hamilton and Mickey Mantle be compared to one another?

                      Originally posted by RonnieG
                      You should read the whole post.
                      I interpreted your post as you saying "hey, he hit for the cycle so he could have hit for average if he wanted to."
                      "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

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                      • Motown
                        OS Brew Connoisseur
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 9169

                        #41
                        Re: Can Josh Hamilton and Mickey Mantle be compared to one another?

                        Originally posted by RonnieG
                        Hamilton is a better, more polished hitter. Mantle was a bigger physical freak.
                        Mantle
                        Height: 5' 11", Weight: 195 lb.

                        Hamilton
                        Height: 6' 4", Weight: 235 lbs
                        Last edited by Motown; 11-04-2010, 09:19 AM.

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                        • RonnieG
                          Banned
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 221

                          #42
                          Re: Can Josh Hamilton and Mickey Mantle be compared to one another?

                          Originally posted by Motown
                          Mantle
                          Height: 5' 11", Weight: 195 lb.

                          Hamilton
                          Height: 6' 4", Weight: 235 lbs

                          Thats not what Im talking about. I dont think Hamilton has the power Mantle did. If he does, its something he sacrificed in being a skilled hitter...but I really dont think he does. Also, Mantle's footspeed, when he came to the majors, is legendary. He was still fast after he fell on the spriklers.

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                          • Scottdau
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 32580

                            #43
                            Mays>Mantle.

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                            • lanceroten
                              Rookie
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 35

                              #44
                              Re: Can Josh Hamilton and Mickey Mantle be compared to one another?

                              No, not at all. Mantle, for all his demons off the field did manage to stay on the field and in the spotlight for a long time. On one of the biggest stages. Mantle had generational talent, one can only imagine what his numbers had been if not for the leg inuries, and the booze of course. Hamilton, good player. Real good player. Personal demons as well. he wasted years of career. But no Mick talentwise. And not even close.

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                              • RonnieG
                                Banned
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 221

                                #45
                                Re: Can Josh Hamilton and Mickey Mantle be compared to one another?

                                Originally posted by Sportsforever
                                I interpreted your post as you saying "hey, he hit for the cycle so he could have hit for average if he wanted to."
                                Sorry. When I said hit for the cycle, I meant hit for the triple crown. Sorry about that. My mistake.

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