What Would Happen If...

[Dog]

Okay, I just saw the Justin Verlander thing. It got me thinking. What if there is a runner on 3rd, pitcher in the stretch. The runner breaks from 3rd before the pitcher starts his motion. Pitcher steps off and throws home.

Now is the batter allowed to swing? Or would there be some sort of ruling where the batter is called out (similar to A-Rod slapping the glove). Would the runner have to retreat to 3rd?

Also, one that I have ALWAYS wondered is:

Two outs, nobody on. 0-2 count, batter check swings on a ball outside the zone but ball gets by the catcher. Assuming the home plate umpire asks for help, does the batter run to 1st? Do they wait until the 3rd or 1st base ump gives the signal?

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[Antec]

Re: What Would Happen If...

Those are 2 interesting questions.

I'm no expert but I would guess that the batter wouldn't be allowed to swing if the pitcher stepped off but I could be wrong. That's a tricky one.

On the second, again guessing, I think the batter would run and the call would be determined while he was going. If it was ruled he held up he would have to return.

I'd like to take the opportunity to ask my own nagging question: It's the bottom of the ninth or bottom of an extra inning with the bases loaded. The batter hits a ground rule double. How many runs cross the plate?

[adice15]

Re: What Would Happen If...

Those are 2 interesting questions.

I'm no expert but I would guess that the batter wouldn't be allowed to swing if the pitcher stepped off but I could be wrong. That's a tricky one.

On the second, again guessing, I think the batter would run and the call would be determined while he was going. If it was ruled he held up he would have to return.

I'd like to take the opportunity to ask my own nagging question: It's the bottom of the ninth or bottom of an extra inning with the bases loaded. The batter hits a ground rule double. How many runs cross the plate?

Unless there is some rule I'm not aware of, I would assume that 2 runs score. If a batter hits a home run with the bases loaded in extra innings, all 4 runs score, not just the one needed.

[55]

Re: What Would Happen If...

I'd like to take the opportunity to ask my own nagging question: It's the bottom of the ninth or bottom of an extra inning with the bases loaded. The batter hits a ground rule double. How many runs cross the plate?

I'm assuming you mean that it is a tie game at the time this would occur. In that case:

It is ruled a single and the batter is awarded with one RBI. The only time more than the amount of runs that are needed to win (i.e. ONE) are tacked on to a walk off hit to win the game is in the case of a home run that clears the outfield fence. In the event of what would normally be ruled a ground rule double, since the ball has to land fair in the field of play before bouncing over the fence, it is ruled a single and the home team would win by one run.

Source: MLB Rule Book Section 4 Article 11

[adice15]

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I'm assuming you mean that it is a tie game at the time this would occur. In that case:

It is ruled a single and the batter is awarded with one RBI. The only time more than the amount of runs that are needed to win (i.e. ONE) are tacked on to a walk off hit to win the game is in the case of a home run that clears the outfield fence. In the event of what would normally be ruled a ground rule double, since the ball has to land fair in the field of play before bouncing over the fence, it is ruled a single and the home team would win by one run.

Source: MLB Rule Book Section 4 Article 11

Well then, I stand corrected.

[jth1331]

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The first one, the pitcher is not making a pitch, therefore the batter is not in play and I believe any attempt to interfere with the play would result in an out.

The second one, the batter SHOULD run to first assuming its strike 3 hoping to make it to first.

Third, one run scores as it would be ruled a single.

[Dog]

Re: What Would Happen If...

The first one, the pitcher is not making a pitch, therefore the batter is not in play and I believe any attempt to interfere with the play would result in an out.

The second one, the batter SHOULD run to first assuming its strike 3 hoping to make it to first.

Yes, there would be an out - but who is called out? The player batting, or the player running home? I'm going to find the email of someone from the MLB and get an official ruling on this

Yeah, not as foggy as the 1st question, this would be my assumption also.

[Dog]

This just happened in the Phillies game. Rollins went around, ran to 1st at first, but stopped. When he stopped, the 3rd base umpire called him out without anyone requesting it. It was..odd

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[Blzer]

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The only problem with the second question is yes, although you should run, sometimes we know it in ourselves that we didn't swing, and running would only indicate to the umpire that you believe you swung yourself. Much like if you foul a ball off yourself but it's not painfully obvious.