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  • TedTurner
    Banned
    • Feb 2003
    • 645

    #1

    Ty Cobb is the greatest player ever.

    Or at least better than Ruth .

    All are AL rankings.

    To get you started in 1911 he was #1 in the AL in every offensive stat except Walks, HRs 2nd , On-Base% 2nd by .001

    Ty won the AL batting title 11 times from 1907-1919 the 2 times he didn't he was 2nd.

    1909-1919 was #1 in On-base% 7 times 2nd once 3rd twice.

    He used his speed to grab extra bases thats why he was #1 in Slugging % from 1907-1912 1914 and 1917

    People <font color="red">think</font> he had no power because of what Ruth did but Ty played in a different era for most of his career. <font color="orange">He actually won the Triple Crown in 1909<font color="yellow">(A did you know on Sports Center I knew the answer too. Who is the youngest guy ever to win the Triple Crown, cause Pujols was close to doing it. It was Ty Cobb who was 22.</font>. Was 2nd in HRs in 1907 1910 &amp; 1911.</font>

    Ty stole almost 900 bases in his career and would of been 1000 if he was healthy more often from 1913-1914. Ruth was +6 in Stolen Bases 123 SBs caught 117 times. Cobb was #1 in SBs in 1907, 1909, 1911, 1915, 1916, and 1917. Finished 2nd twice, 3rd Thrice, and 4th 4 times. Thats Kool and the Gang. So for 15 years he was in the top 4 in SBs.

    What is the worst thing a batter can do? Strike Out. Cobb rarely Struk out on the other hand Ruth K'ed 1330 times in 8399 career ABs. Not an incredible amount by todays standards but you can only compare him to his peers which make him look a lot worse. <font color="pink">Ruth was #1 in K's in the AL in 1918, 1923, 1924, 1927, 1928, and 2nd in 1919, 1920, 1921, 1922, 1925, 1926, and 1933.</font>
  • agte
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    • Jul 2003
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    #2
    Re: Ty Cobb is the greatest player ever.

    whatever, I don't know what brought this up but whatever

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    • agte
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      • Jul 2003
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      #3
      Re: Ty Cobb is the greatest player ever.

      whatever, I don't know what brought this up but whatever

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      • agte
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        • Jul 2003
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        #4
        Re: Ty Cobb is the greatest player ever.

        whatever, I don't know what brought this up but whatever

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        • TedTurner
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          • Feb 2003
          • 645

          #5
          Re: Ty Cobb is the greatest player ever.

          WTF. What kind of a post is that ?

          You didn't see the "who is the greatest player ever?" post on the front page with 25 replies ?

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          • TedTurner
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            • Feb 2003
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            #6
            Re: Ty Cobb is the greatest player ever.

            WTF. What kind of a post is that ?

            You didn't see the "who is the greatest player ever?" post on the front page with 25 replies ?

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            • TedTurner
              Banned
              • Feb 2003
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              #7
              Re: Ty Cobb is the greatest player ever.

              WTF. What kind of a post is that ?

              You didn't see the "who is the greatest player ever?" post on the front page with 25 replies ?

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              • SPTO
                binging
                • Feb 2003
                • 68046

                #8
                Re: Ty Cobb is the greatest player ever.

                Then maybe you should've put your original post in that thread hmmmm....
                Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

                "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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                • SPTO
                  binging
                  • Feb 2003
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                  #9
                  Re: Ty Cobb is the greatest player ever.

                  Then maybe you should've put your original post in that thread hmmmm....
                  Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

                  "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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                  • SPTO
                    binging
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 68046

                    #10
                    Re: Ty Cobb is the greatest player ever.

                    Then maybe you should've put your original post in that thread hmmmm....
                    Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

                    "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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                    • dce1228
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 1016

                      #11
                      Re: Ty Cobb is the greatest player ever.

                      TT makes a good point about Cobb's power being good relative to his time. It isn't that Ruth was the first player who could hit home-runs but that he was the first player who actually tried to. He went against the grain of thinking in baseball and started upper-cutting at the ball. This wasn't Cobb's game, but by all accounts he could've hit more home-runs if he'd tried. Cobb is easily in the top ten of all time players.

                      Good arguement, for the most part TT. I don't know why others took offense at you for starting this thread, especially since you backed it up with statistics.

                      Although I might add that whiffing isn't the worst thing a batter can do. First off, grounding into a double-play is obviously more terrible-- but also, in my book, pulling a Soriano and popping up a first pitch for an out is worse than striking out because you haven't even made the pitcher work or let your teammates watch the pitcher work.

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                      • dce1228
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 1016

                        #12
                        Re: Ty Cobb is the greatest player ever.

                        TT makes a good point about Cobb's power being good relative to his time. It isn't that Ruth was the first player who could hit home-runs but that he was the first player who actually tried to. He went against the grain of thinking in baseball and started upper-cutting at the ball. This wasn't Cobb's game, but by all accounts he could've hit more home-runs if he'd tried. Cobb is easily in the top ten of all time players.

                        Good arguement, for the most part TT. I don't know why others took offense at you for starting this thread, especially since you backed it up with statistics.

                        Although I might add that whiffing isn't the worst thing a batter can do. First off, grounding into a double-play is obviously more terrible-- but also, in my book, pulling a Soriano and popping up a first pitch for an out is worse than striking out because you haven't even made the pitcher work or let your teammates watch the pitcher work.

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                        • dce1228
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 1016

                          #13
                          Re: Ty Cobb is the greatest player ever.

                          TT makes a good point about Cobb's power being good relative to his time. It isn't that Ruth was the first player who could hit home-runs but that he was the first player who actually tried to. He went against the grain of thinking in baseball and started upper-cutting at the ball. This wasn't Cobb's game, but by all accounts he could've hit more home-runs if he'd tried. Cobb is easily in the top ten of all time players.

                          Good arguement, for the most part TT. I don't know why others took offense at you for starting this thread, especially since you backed it up with statistics.

                          Although I might add that whiffing isn't the worst thing a batter can do. First off, grounding into a double-play is obviously more terrible-- but also, in my book, pulling a Soriano and popping up a first pitch for an out is worse than striking out because you haven't even made the pitcher work or let your teammates watch the pitcher work.

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                          • Ger
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                            • Jul 2003
                            • 166

                            #14
                            Re: Ty Cobb is the greatest player ever.

                            ty cobb was definitely one of the greatest ball players of all time and u did bring up some excellent points statistically wise for him being better than ruth. however, he was the meanest son of a b*tch alive.

                            anyone ever see that ty cobb movie with tommy lee jones..good movie.

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                            • Ger
                              Rookie
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 166

                              #15
                              Re: Ty Cobb is the greatest player ever.

                              ty cobb was definitely one of the greatest ball players of all time and u did bring up some excellent points statistically wise for him being better than ruth. however, he was the meanest son of a b*tch alive.

                              anyone ever see that ty cobb movie with tommy lee jones..good movie.

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