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  • SPTO
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    • Feb 2003
    • 68046

    #16
    Re: MLB Players Poll: Most Overrated Player

    Originally posted by NYJets
    Overpaid is not the same as overrated. He got that contract for marketing reasons not because the Yankees felt he was worth that on the field. Yanks knew they were overpaying. If a number of other teams had offered similar deals because they thought they were still getting a hall of fame shortstop, I could see that as a reason he's overrated, but that's not the case. Jeter's decline has been widely reported.
    Hate to agree with a Yankee fan but Jeter is not what I would call overrated. He's overpaid to a great degree but I think that's more of a "thank you" for such a great career he did have. I certainly wouldn't put him in my top 10 most overrated list.

    I really question the Joba pick. I mean who overrates him?!

    Glad to see AJ Burnett on that list though. The guy is all talent and everyone talks him up but he barely delivers especially in the crunch.
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    • DrJones
      All Star
      • Mar 2003
      • 9109

      #17
      Re: MLB Players Poll: Most Overrated Player

      I think when most people (including the players) say "overrated", they really mean "overhyped", ie, paid way more attention than other players with similar abilities. I don't think anybody overrates Joba Chamberlain's skills now, but the amount of media attention he received between 2007 and 2009 was simply absurd, as if he was Stephen Strasburg combined with Doc Gooden. KC's Aaron Crow (among many others) is at least as good a prospect as Joba was, yet Crow's received 1/100,000th of the ink.

      Using the "overhyped" criteria, most players probably think virtually all Yankees and Red Sox players are "overrated", because mainstream media outlets (hi, ESPN) talk about the Yankees and Red Sox ALL THE TIME.
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      • NYJets
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        • Jul 2002
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        #18
        Re: MLB Players Poll: Most Overrated Player

        Yea, I agree with overhyped. If Joba had come up in 07 and did what he did for Oakland, I don't think they would have made the "Joba Rules" shirts, lol. I don't think he was overrated really, because before he got hurt he had legit ace stuff, he could hit 100 in the 7th inning, dominating slider, good curve, and an ok change. Just got way more attention than other top prospects get.

        Honestly in baseball I don't think there are many players who are overrated. With how stats tell almost the whole story, unlike other sports, if a big name is not getting it done, it's pretty obvious pretty quickly. Underrated, yes, there are plenty of players in small markets who just don't get the attention.
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        • Dog
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          • Aug 2008
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          #19
          Re: MLB Players Poll: Most Overrated Player

          Overhyped should replace overrated in all talks from now on
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          • berenjena
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            • Jan 2008
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            #20
            Re: MLB Players Poll: Most Overrated Player

            Thats one of the most rediculous polls I have ever encountered. First of all, SI has some nerve asking professional athletes to disrespect their colleagues for such a trivial and unquantifiable thing as an "who's overrrated" poll. Secondly, the players who actually responded to that poll should be ashamed of themselves for being so amateur. I have no doubt that the players who responded were new to the league or less-than-mediocre athletes without a clue how to be a professional.

            Consider Jeter and ARod and count their number of World Series rings, AL MVP titles, Hank Aaron awards, Babe Ruth awards, Silver Slugger awards, Gold Gloves, All-Star MVP titles, World Series MVP titles, and Rookie of the Year awards. Then take note of the fact that Jeter is days away from hitting his 3000th hit. ARod will finish this season in 5th on the alltime HR list and 7th on the alltime RBI list. Both athletes are unquestionably first-ballot Hall of Famers.

            Now consider the rarity of achieving so much in a single career. Consider the effort and the durability required required. I am willing to bet that not a single one of the players who responded to that poll would ever even dream of achieving as much as Jeter and ARod have without wetting the bed. Jealousy rots a human from within.

            Overpaid? yes. Overrated? absolutely not.

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            • Chrisksaint
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              • Apr 2010
              • 19127

              #21
              Re: MLB Players Poll: Most Overrated Player

              Players do basically the same thing when it comes to voting for say an all star game, SI does these things all the time whether it's this or dirtiest player or whatever
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              • TheShizNo1
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                • Mar 2007
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                #22
                Originally posted by berenjena
                Thats one of the most rediculous polls I have ever encountered. First of all, SI has some nerve asking professional athletes to disrespect their colleagues for such a trivial and unquantifiable thing as an "who's overrrated" poll. Secondly, the players who actually responded to that poll should be ashamed of themselves for being so amateur. I have no doubt that the players who responded were new to the league or less-than-mediocre athletes without a clue how to be a professional.

                Consider Jeter and ARod and count their number of World Series rings, AL MVP titles, Hank Aaron awards, Babe Ruth awards, Silver Slugger awards, Gold Gloves, All-Star MVP titles, World Series MVP titles, and Rookie of the Year awards. Then take note of the fact that Jeter is days away from hitting his 3000th hit. ARod will finish this season in 5th on the alltime HR list and 7th on the alltime RBI list. Both athletes are unquestionably first-ballot Hall of Famers.

                Now consider the rarity of achieving so much in a single career. Consider the effort and the durability required required. I am willing to bet that not a single one of the players who responded to that poll would ever even dream of achieving as much as Jeter and ARod have without wetting the bed. Jealousy rots a human from within.

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                • Blzer
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                  • Mar 2004
                  • 42520

                  #23
                  Re: MLB Players Poll: Most Overrated Player

                  These are all east coast players as well.

                  I wonder if any of the 185 players were on the east coast divisions, or the Yankees and Red Sox in particular.
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                  • Gibbz
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                    • Aug 2005
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                    #24
                    Re: MLB Players Poll: Most Overrated Player

                    Aside from that mammoth contract, it's actually reaching the point where A-Rod is borderline underrated. Everyone I hear from acts like he's a bum when he's still an elite third baseman.

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                    • lonewolf371
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                      • Aug 2009
                      • 3420

                      #25
                      Re: MLB Players Poll: Most Overrated Player

                      Originally posted by Gibbz
                      Aside from that mammoth contract, it's actually reaching the point where A-Rod is borderline underrated. Everyone I hear from acts like he's a bum when he's still an elite third baseman.
                      Part of the reason he's an elite 3rd baseman is because all the other 3rd basemen are bums this year.
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                      • BatsareBugs
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                        • Feb 2003
                        • 12553

                        #26
                        Re: MLB Players Poll: Most Overrated Player

                        Originally posted by lonewolf371
                        Part of the reason he's an elite 3rd baseman is because all the other 3rd basemen are bums this year.
                        Offensively Alex Rodriguez is still one of the better 3B, . Aside from Jose Bautista last year (who probably played RF more than 3B) very few third basemen have reached the 30 home run plateau. According to UZR he hasn't been great defensively, but just because the 3B market this year is dwindled by injuries to players like Ryan Zimmerman, Evan Longoria, and others doesn't mean he's not part of the elite group at 3B.

                        Would you rather have him on your team or Chase Headley? Who in 2010 had a higher WAR than Alex Rodriguez. I'm not sure about you, but I'd take A-Rod over Headley anyday.

                        I can only see him being overrated only if some people can't let go of the reality that he isn't a .300/40/1.000 OPS-type hitter anymore. Other than that, I don't see how he is overrated.

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                        • lonewolf371
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                          • Aug 2009
                          • 3420

                          #27
                          Re: MLB Players Poll: Most Overrated Player

                          Originally posted by Rag3vsW0rld
                          Offensively Alex Rodriguez is still one of the better 3B, . Aside from Jose Bautista last year (who probably played RF more than 3B) very few third basemen have reached the 30 home run plateau. According to UZR he hasn't been great defensively, but just because the 3B market this year is dwindled by injuries to players like Ryan Zimmerman, Evan Longoria, and others doesn't mean he's not part of the elite group at 3B.

                          Would you rather have him on your team or Chase Headley? Who in 2010 had a higher WAR than Alex Rodriguez. I'm not sure about you, but I'd take A-Rod over Headley anyday.

                          I can only see him being overrated only if some people can't let go of the reality that he isn't a .300/40/1.000 OPS-type hitter anymore. Other than that, I don't see how he is overrated.
                          I still think A-Rod is a great player, but all the other star 3rd basemen this year have been hurt and aren't slugging more than .500. Compare that to 2005 when we had five 3rd basemen slug over .500. The position is dead, at the moment.
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                          • BatsareBugs
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                            • Feb 2003
                            • 12553

                            #28
                            Re: MLB Players Poll: Most Overrated Player

                            Originally posted by lonewolf371
                            I still think A-Rod is a great player, but all the other star 3rd basemen this year have been hurt and aren't slugging more than .500. Compare that to 2005 when we had five 3rd basemen slug over .500. The position is dead, at the moment.
                            That is true. Also some of the 3B have been moved to other positions (1B, LF) because defense is also as important at that position.

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                            • DGuinta1
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                              • Aug 2004
                              • 2706

                              #29
                              Re: MLB Players Poll: Most Overrated Player

                              Originally posted by poopydude
                              I fail to see how Jeter on a whole is overrated he has compiled 15 consecutive seasons of 150+ hits. He will have over 3000 by the time his Career is done, a .313 batting average along with 1000+ RBI's and over 230 homers. Jeter Is a born leader, tough as nails and refuses to give up. not to mention the fact that he has played every season for the same team which is a rarity in today's game. His fielding is a tad bit overrated but on a whole Derek Jeter is an amazing athlete. while he has definitely lost a step he is still a key contributor for the Yanks
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                              • DieHardYankee26
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                                #30
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