The NFL and MLB need to fix this. The player should only be allowed to appeal the fine.It's sort of useless in baseball. A pitcher can be suspended for three games like Paddlebum, and he can then select to serve it on an off day. For a starter, they can easily serve it after a game because they don't even have to pitch, day to day.
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Re: There shouldn't be ANY appeals for being suspended by the league.
Starting pitchers almost always get 5 day suspensions. That's what Jason Marquis just got, and really I do not recall a time they haven't had a 5 or more game suspension. I'm not saying it has never happened, but at the least the majority of starting pitchers get 5 day suspensions. -
Re: There shouldn't be ANY appeals for being suspended by the league.
Meh. In a 162-game season, what's the difference in which game(s) the guy misses really?Comment
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Re: There shouldn't be ANY appeals for being suspended by the league.
Even if there is a legit reason they should still be suspended. Thats down to the MLB whether or not someone should be suspendedComment
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Re: There shouldn't be ANY appeals for being suspended by the league.
No, they're X game suspensions, not X day suspensions.
Pretty sure the right to appeal has been collectively bargained by the players union. It's not like MLB can simply say "NO MORE APPEALS!" just because the rule is ridiculous.
If you have a problem with unions and collective bargaining that's another story.Last edited by ComfortablyLomb; 06-08-2011, 03:26 PM.Comment
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Re: There shouldn't be ANY appeals for being suspended by the league.
Why? What if MLB gets it wrong, and an appeal is necessary?
You can't give a player back games that he misses if he's wrongfully suspended.
And it's not like a relief pitcher, such as "Paddlebum"(Hilarious...
), can easily schedule his suspension around off days. There's no way to predict when save opportunities are going to come up. Chances are, if a relief pitcher is suspended for 3 days, it's almost always going to affect the team he plays for. And starting pitchers usually always are suspended long enough to miss a start anyways, so I really don't see what the problem is here.
Sure, the teams are able to manipulate the appeals system to some degree, but it's nowhere near bad enough to nix appeals all together.Now, more than everComment
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Re: There shouldn't be ANY appeals for being suspended by the league.
Then that would be the MLB's fault. When was the last time someone appealed a suspension and it actually was appealed?Why? What if MLB gets it wrong, and an appeal is necessary?
You can't give a player back games that he misses if he's wrongfully suspended.
And it's not like a relief pitcher, such as "Paddlebum"(Hilarious...), can easily schedule his suspension around off days. There's no way to predict when save opportunities are going to come up. Chances are, if a relief pitcher is suspended for 3 days, it's almost always going to affect the team he plays for. And starting pitchers usually always are suspended long enough to miss a start anyways, so I really don't see what the problem is here.
Sure, the teams are able to manipulate the appeals system to some degree, but it's nowhere near bad enough to nix appeals all together.Comment
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Re: There shouldn't be ANY appeals for being suspended by the league.
Do you mean when was the last time a player won an appeal?
I don't know the last one exactly, but the guy in my avatar won his appeal of a 4 game suspension late last season. I'm sure other players have had successful appeals as well...
Of course it would be MLB's fault, but why does that mean they can't have a system in place in which they make sure they get the suspension right? I'm sorry, I just don't see a huge problem with delaying suspensions a few weeks for a proper appeals process.Now, more than everComment
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If they're suspended they're held without pay right? If they miss games they might miss out on incentives in their contract for performance. There's a whole lot to determine and power should not be absolute.
It would be scary if you were in charge or in govt.
This whole thing reminds me of when Costanza wanted to be an anthropologist.Originally posted by Edmund BurkeComment
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Re: There shouldn't be ANY appeals for being suspended by the league.
I wouldn't want it that way at all. I don't wanna see one part of MLB be Judge, Jury,executioner. You let them start throwing around suspensions without appeals, it could get outta hand. Sometimes appeals are a formality, sometimes they do good. Like anything else, it depends on circumstances.
But in no way, shape, or form, would I agee with that. Thats like putting a guy in jail without trial and saying "Hey he was arrested, he obviously did it. no questions needed. Just put him away and lets go get lunch"Comment
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I'm not positive, but I don't believe it would be legal to remove appeals. That would be an unfair labor practice. In most jobs where you join a union, if suspended, you have a right to appeal. The mlb can't get rid of appeals and just suspend whoever they want for whatever reason they want.
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