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  • spit_bubble
    MVP
    • Nov 2004
    • 3292

    #1

    Help: Looking for an obscure stat

    I'm trying to find out how many times batters will swing at pitches outside the zone throughout the course of a game... I guess it would be called "pitches chased" or something like that.

    I looked around and couldn't find it anywhere. The one site I thought would have it, fangraphs, didn't seem to have it... Though maybe it's tucked away somewhere on that site and I just missed it.

    If anyone knows, I would appreciate it.
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  • Chaos81
    Hall Of Fame
    • Mar 2004
    • 17150

    #2
    Re: Help: Looking for an obscure stat

    The only thing I'm aware of is the Fangraphs O-Swing%. That's a season % number per player though, but if that's partially what you're looking for you could just do the math manually as they also list number of pitches seen. Wouldn't be exact, but it'd get your close However, you wouldn't be able to break it down game-by-game if that's more what you're aiming for.

    Not sure if that's quite what you're looking for though.

    http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx...latediscipline

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    • spit_bubble
      MVP
      • Nov 2004
      • 3292

      #3
      Re: Help: Looking for an obscure stat

      Originally posted by Chaos81
      The only thing I'm aware of is the Fangraphs O-Swing%. That's a season % number per player though, but if that's partially what you're looking for you could just do the math manually as they also list number of pitches seen. Wouldn't be exact, but it'd get your close However, you wouldn't be able to break it down game-by-game if that's more what you're aiming for.

      Not sure if that's quite what you're looking for though.

      http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx...latediscipline
      Thanks a lot... I think that will be a good place to start.
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      • spit_bubble
        MVP
        • Nov 2004
        • 3292

        #4
        Re: Help: Looking for an obscure stat

        Well... Figured it out... Using other stats at fangraphs...

        Using median numbers over the course of three years, 2008-2010...

        71030 pitches per team, 44669 of them for strikes.

        48.7% of pitches seen in the zone by hitters, so that's 34591 total pitches in the zone.

        44669 minus 34591 gives you 10078 strikes outside the zone... Divide by three for a yearly average of 3359 strikes outside the zone... Divide by 162 and you get 21 pitches chased per game.



        In case anyone was wondering.

        (using this for MLB The Show, to make sure the AI is chasing enough pitches... I've become obsessed with getting the sliders and settings as close to real as possible)
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        • Blzer
          Resident film pundit
          • Mar 2004
          • 42520

          #5
          Re: Help: Looking for an obscure stat

          This has nothing to do with whether they made contact or missed it, right? Just if they swung at the pitch?
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          • spit_bubble
            MVP
            • Nov 2004
            • 3292

            #6
            Re: Help: Looking for an obscure stat

            Originally posted by Blzer
            This has nothing to do with whether they made contact or missed it, right? Just if they swung at the pitch?
            Yeah, strictly pitches outside the zone that batters have swung at.

            To check this in MLB you can go to "Pitcher Analysis" after a game and set the "Pitcher" to "All" and then go to "Result" and set that to "Chased" to see how many times batters swung at pitches outside the zone.

            I'm playing on All-Star and along with all the other settings and sliders I'm using it seemed like the discipline of the AI was a bit too good. Lowering the CPU Contact all the way to zero helps that, and in fact I can usually get 15-20 pitches chased for the AI...

            Then gotta raise other CPU hitting sliders to compensate...

            I'm doing pretty drastic changes, all with the idea in mind to get the numbers as close to real as possible... And because I use classic pitching and timing hitting... Along with guess pitch, strike zone, and hot zones all off... All these changes effect the numbers pretty significantly.

            Last edited by spit_bubble; 06-10-2011, 11:17 PM. Reason: typo
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