2011 MLB Trade Deadline Thread

[philliesfan136]

Re: 2011 MLB Trade Deadline Thread

After this season (or during this season) Phillies should (not in any particular order, all of these are off the top of my head):

1. Let Oswalt walk
2. Re-sign Madson, make CL (unless they..)
3. Trade for Heath Bell
4. Keep Worley in the rotation when Blanton comes back
5.Try and get something for Blanton
(Hey Red Sox..You wanted him before! http://www.nesn.com/2010/12/report-r...e-blanton.html)

6. PLEASE GET RID OF KYLE KENDRICK
7. Let Lidge walk
8. Bring up young guns (Schwimer, Aumont, De Fratus) next season in place of Lidge, etc.
9. Sign or trade for a power-hitting outfielder (Francouer?), preferably LF 'cuz Brown has been doing good offensively (but not defensively)
10. Get rid of Ibanez
11. Give Mayberry Jr. an extended look in LF (this is an alternative to 9)

[BunnyHardaway]

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Too early? When you're only going to have him for a year, don't you want him here for as long as you can get him?

Reminds me of when we got Sabathia well before the deadline instead of right at it to get a few extra starts. Turns out we needed those wins too.

I like this trade a lot, depending on who the PBTNL are. An incredibly rock solid setup man, and a great insurance policy if Axford either gets hurt or loses his mustache magic.

Now we need a shortstop. ****ing Betancourt...

J.J. Hardy reunion tour? He might be on the market if MacPhail can't lock him up, and I have no doubt he'll screw it up.

[areobee401]

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Too early? When you're only going to have him for a year, don't you want him here for as long as you can get him?

Reminds me of when we got Sabathia well before the deadline instead of right at it to get a few extra starts. Turns out we needed those wins too.

I like this trade a lot, depending on who the PBTNL are. An incredibly rock solid setup man, and a great insurance policy if Axford either gets hurt or loses his mustache magic.

Now we need a shortstop. ****ing Betancourt...

I posted that before I heard who the possible PBTNL was. Sounds like its just the Mets trying to unload payroll at this point. Good pick up for the Brewers but lets not compare this to CC. Brewers are primed for a strong 2nd half push if they can stay healthy.

[Bellsprout]

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J.J. Hardy reunion tour? He might be on the market if MacPhail can't lock him up, and I have no doubt he'll screw it up.

I'd love to have him back. Absolutely love it. I hope it's the next call Melvin's making.

In other news, I just learned that the Brewers bullpen has blown a ML leading (If I remember what I read right) 20 saves so far this season. So, yeah, we really needed help.

[Bellsprout]

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I posted that before I heard who the possible PBTNL was. Sounds like its just the Mets trying to unload payroll at this point. Good pick up for the Brewers but lets not compare this to CC. Brewers are primed for a strong 2nd half push if they can stay healthy.

I'm not comparing the potential results to CC. K-Rod's just a set-up guy, CC literally put the entire team on his back and willed us to the Playoffs that year.

Just comparing the timing of the deals, and how they both allowed us to get more out of the player than a deadline deal would have.

[areobee401]

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I'm not comparing the potential results to CC. K-Rod's just a set-up guy.

Just comparing the timing of the deals, and how they both allowed us to get more out of the player than a deadline deal would have.

Gotcha

But at the same time K-Rod is nowhere near the talent CC was at the time. Still a great addition to the Brewers and applaud your front office for being aggressive. That division is yours to lose.

[rsox]

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Rodriguez just recently hired Scott Boras to be his agent, so it is no real surprise the Mets took the first trade offered for him.

Brewers probably are not going to go after a SS since they seem to like Betancourt.

For the Phillies talk: Hunter Pence is a vey big possibility. We know Ed Wade will trade with Ruben Amaro and the Astros aking price may not be as high as some would think.

[SPTO]

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The K-Rod trade could blow up in the Brewers' face as he doesn't want to be a setup guy and will lose some SERIOUS coinage by not getting to close 55 games this season. Is it worth it to acquire a guy who may be unhappy and sulk? I guess time will tell.

If K-Rod does pitch to his abilities then you have a great 1-2 combo at the back end of the bullpen.

[IlliniM1ke]

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In other news, I just learned that the Brewers bullpen has blown a ML leading (If I remember what I read right) 20 saves so far this season. So, yeah, we really needed help.

Woah now the Brewers aren't even in the top 2 teams in blown saves in their division

Washington - 19
Houston - 18
St. Louis - 15
Milwaukee - 14

On the topic of the Cardinals reports are coming out today that GM John Mozeliak is open to trading Colby Rasmus. Rasmus has a world of potential but he and mostly his dad have worn out their welcome in St. Louis. His dad is the ultimate baseball dad who is trying to live vicariously through his sons accomplishments and he needs to learn to shut his mouth and let Colby be his own person. As much as I like Colby's upside I won't really be too upset if hes dealt. I think hes like J.D. Drew was in STL, a guy who just won't reach his potential (although Drew was due to injuries where Rasmus is due to his dad ticking off management and his frequent prolonged slumps).

Here are some examples of what Tony Rasmus has said and an article that talks a bit about him.

In December, the elder Rasmus popped up on a blog called The Cardinal Nation and suggested that new Cardinals hitting coach Mark McGwire was trying to turn his son into a slap hitter, “like Skip Schumaker.” It was a jab at the organization, and McGwire specifically. Schumaker has a .381 career slugging percentage and is one of the least productive regulars in the sport. There was never a plan to mold Rasmus into Skip.

In March, the elder Rasmus appeared on this very site and made a comment about his son being underpaid. Tony Rasmus also stated that he “wouldn’t mind [Colby] playing for the Braves” and that his “preference,” as a father, would be for his son to wind up with the Yankees. Colby, mind you, hasn’t even hit arbitration.

In June, the elder Rasmus was back at it again, this time with a more straightforward approach. He wrote under a post on The Cardinal Nation: “I believe its fairly obvious that Colby needs to be somewhere else. I don’t think Colby will ever be good enough to play in St. Louis. But I knew this way back.”

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/11/colby-rasmus-seeking-answers-from-home-wont-find-them/

[Dog]

Re: 2011 MLB Trade Deadline Thread

After this season (or during this season) Phillies should (not in any particular order, all of these are off the top of my head):

1. Let Oswalt walk Yes, if he doesn't retire
2. Re-sign Madson, make CL (unless they..) Yes
3. Trade for Heath Bell Rather have Uehara from Baltimore - he costs less
4. Keep Worley in the rotation when Blanton comes back Yes
5.Try and get something for Blanton With Oswalt out, would you rather have Kendrick or Blanton? Keep Blanton unless Oswalt comes back
(Hey Red Sox..You wanted him before! http://www.nesn.com/2010/12/report-r...e-blanton.html)

6. PLEASE GET RID OF KYLE KENDRICK Yes please
7. Let Lidge walk Yes
8. Bring up young guns (Schwimer, Aumont, De Fratus) next season in place of Lidge, etc. Yes on Schwimer, no on the others right now
9. Sign or trade for a power-hitting outfielder (Francouer?),probably should play LF 'cuz Brown has been doing good offensively (but not defensively) Pence please. NO NO NO to Francouer
10. Get rid of Ibanez His contract is up, 2011 is his last year
11. Give Mayberry Jr. an extended look in LF (this is an alternative to 9 I think Francisco isn't as bad as he's showed this year. If they get the bat, no need anyway

One thing to add - re-sign Hamels.

[Chaos81]

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Woah now the Brewers aren't even in the top 2 teams in blown saves in their division

They do have 20 losses as a bullpen, which is the worst in the majors. I think he meant losses and just said saves because that's what is normally talked about with bullpens.

[IlliniM1ke]

Re: 2011 MLB Trade Deadline Thread

They do have 20 losses as a bullpen, which is the worst in the majors. I think he meant losses and just said saves because that's what is normally talked about with bullpens.

Oh yeah well in that case carry on, I'm just very defensive of someone trying to bump the Cardinals down the list of teams with the most blown saves, Ryan Franklin worked hard to try and get us to the top of that list!

[TimmeH]

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Well, on the plus side, the K-Rod acquisition means less Kameron Loe!


But on the flip side, we still have gaping holes at SS, 3B, CF, SP, and in the 7th inning relief.

[Bellsprout]

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CF isn't a gaping hole. Tony Plush rules.

And I don't think we have SP or 7th inning holes either. If Greinke would pitch to his potential, Greinke/Marcum/Yo/Wolf/Narveson is a pretty formidable rotation. Problem is Greinke hasn't done that yet. And as for the 7th, it'll be some combo of Hawkins and Saito, both of whom have been solid lately.

3B and SS, though, I agree. Especially short. God I hate Betancourt. With a fury.

[Dog]

The Brewers starting staff was pretty damn good last time I looked it up (which was like 2 weeks ago..)



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