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  • NYJets
    Hall Of Fame
    • Jul 2002
    • 18637

    #31
    Re: U.S. Baseball Team Fails to Make Olympics

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    kweiss said:
    Seriously though, when the three stars of the team are Mike Lamb, Todd Williams, and Horacio Ramirez something is wrong. If all of the best U.S. players actually participated, everyone knows they would have blown away the competition.

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    Exactly. I don't follow this all that much, but I assume the other Countries were all bringing there best players.
    Originally posted by Jay Bilas
    The question isn't whether UConn belongs with the elites, but over the last 20 years, whether the rest of the college basketball elite belongs with UConn

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    • mjb2124
      Hall Of Fame
      • Aug 2002
      • 13649

      #32
      Re: U.S. Baseball Team Fails to Make Olympics

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      Stoud said:
      Calm down, all I was saying is that it doesn't matter if "Baseball is as american as apple pie", it doesn't matter if an american invented it, it doesn't flipping matter. If we weren't better than Mexico to go to the Olympics this year, we obviously weren't good enough to WIN in the Olympics! It's a competition, and we didn't win the chance to play in it. So what? It's not that sad when you consider who was playing. After Hearing what LAsorda said, and then you, it got me really PO'd. I don't care what you say, the tone in which it was said and the tone in which Lasorda was saying it was that same old "America is the Best" tone. Why is it so sad that we got beaten by a better team? Sheez man, you still haven't congratulated them. I just don't get why its so "Sad" all of a sudden. Look at the team we had! we didn't DESERVE to win! I just don't view it as "such a tragedy", because it being a "tragedy" as many people (whether they admit it or not) make it out to be, would insinuate very easily that it was unfair that we didn't win.

      1. Life isn't fair

      2. You can't win every game

      3. we lost, get over it

      Next time an American team loses anything against a "foreign" team, try not to say things in almost (what I view as) a racial tone. All I can say to maybe get you understanding where I'm coming from at this point is this: Do you think the Mexican team right now is saying "poor americans, they deserved to win, it is afterall THEIR sport."?

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      What Lasorda said and what I said have nothing to do with each other. There was also no tone taken when I made that post. It wasn't meant as an "elitest" way of saying "we are America and should automatically be in the Olympics because baseball was created in this country". No, you inferred that for some odd reason. Racial tone? Not at all. You're reading into things and not reading what I actually said. I also don't appreciate you labeling me as a racist because you misinterpreted my post. You have no idea what I stand for so don't make assumptions. I also never said just because America invented baseball means they should automatically qualify for the Olympics! You must've read that the wrong way or turned my initial statement into something that it never was.

      As I said earlier, the statement was meant as baseball was inveneted in USA and it's a shame we couldn't even make it to the Olympics to compete. Nothing more, nothing less.

      Once again, please don't make assumptions to what I say because your assumption is dead wrong.

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      • mjb2124
        Hall Of Fame
        • Aug 2002
        • 13649

        #33
        Re: U.S. Baseball Team Fails to Make Olympics

        </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
        Stoud said:
        Calm down, all I was saying is that it doesn't matter if "Baseball is as american as apple pie", it doesn't matter if an american invented it, it doesn't flipping matter. If we weren't better than Mexico to go to the Olympics this year, we obviously weren't good enough to WIN in the Olympics! It's a competition, and we didn't win the chance to play in it. So what? It's not that sad when you consider who was playing. After Hearing what LAsorda said, and then you, it got me really PO'd. I don't care what you say, the tone in which it was said and the tone in which Lasorda was saying it was that same old "America is the Best" tone. Why is it so sad that we got beaten by a better team? Sheez man, you still haven't congratulated them. I just don't get why its so "Sad" all of a sudden. Look at the team we had! we didn't DESERVE to win! I just don't view it as "such a tragedy", because it being a "tragedy" as many people (whether they admit it or not) make it out to be, would insinuate very easily that it was unfair that we didn't win.

        1. Life isn't fair

        2. You can't win every game

        3. we lost, get over it

        Next time an American team loses anything against a "foreign" team, try not to say things in almost (what I view as) a racial tone. All I can say to maybe get you understanding where I'm coming from at this point is this: Do you think the Mexican team right now is saying "poor americans, they deserved to win, it is afterall THEIR sport."?

        <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

        What Lasorda said and what I said have nothing to do with each other. There was also no tone taken when I made that post. It wasn't meant as an "elitest" way of saying "we are America and should automatically be in the Olympics because baseball was created in this country". No, you inferred that for some odd reason. Racial tone? Not at all. You're reading into things and not reading what I actually said. I also don't appreciate you labeling me as a racist because you misinterpreted my post. You have no idea what I stand for so don't make assumptions. I also never said just because America invented baseball means they should automatically qualify for the Olympics! You must've read that the wrong way or turned my initial statement into something that it never was.

        As I said earlier, the statement was meant as baseball was inveneted in USA and it's a shame we couldn't even make it to the Olympics to compete. Nothing more, nothing less.

        Once again, please don't make assumptions to what I say because your assumption is dead wrong.

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        • mjb2124
          Hall Of Fame
          • Aug 2002
          • 13649

          #34
          Re: U.S. Baseball Team Fails to Make Olympics

          </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
          Stoud said:
          Calm down, all I was saying is that it doesn't matter if "Baseball is as american as apple pie", it doesn't matter if an american invented it, it doesn't flipping matter. If we weren't better than Mexico to go to the Olympics this year, we obviously weren't good enough to WIN in the Olympics! It's a competition, and we didn't win the chance to play in it. So what? It's not that sad when you consider who was playing. After Hearing what LAsorda said, and then you, it got me really PO'd. I don't care what you say, the tone in which it was said and the tone in which Lasorda was saying it was that same old "America is the Best" tone. Why is it so sad that we got beaten by a better team? Sheez man, you still haven't congratulated them. I just don't get why its so "Sad" all of a sudden. Look at the team we had! we didn't DESERVE to win! I just don't view it as "such a tragedy", because it being a "tragedy" as many people (whether they admit it or not) make it out to be, would insinuate very easily that it was unfair that we didn't win.

          1. Life isn't fair

          2. You can't win every game

          3. we lost, get over it

          Next time an American team loses anything against a "foreign" team, try not to say things in almost (what I view as) a racial tone. All I can say to maybe get you understanding where I'm coming from at this point is this: Do you think the Mexican team right now is saying "poor americans, they deserved to win, it is afterall THEIR sport."?

          <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

          What Lasorda said and what I said have nothing to do with each other. There was also no tone taken when I made that post. It wasn't meant as an "elitest" way of saying "we are America and should automatically be in the Olympics because baseball was created in this country". No, you inferred that for some odd reason. Racial tone? Not at all. You're reading into things and not reading what I actually said. I also don't appreciate you labeling me as a racist because you misinterpreted my post. You have no idea what I stand for so don't make assumptions. I also never said just because America invented baseball means they should automatically qualify for the Olympics! You must've read that the wrong way or turned my initial statement into something that it never was.

          As I said earlier, the statement was meant as baseball was inveneted in USA and it's a shame we couldn't even make it to the Olympics to compete. Nothing more, nothing less.

          Once again, please don't make assumptions to what I say because your assumption is dead wrong.

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          • gsharpe
            Rookie
            • Sep 2003
            • 91

            #35
            Re: U.S. Baseball Team Fails to Make Olympics

            Apparently, most of you didn't see what happened, a 1-3 Mexico team knocked out the 3-0 (now 3-1) United States team. This is insane. Something is definitely wrong when the defending gold medalists and team with only one loss gets knocked out by a one team winner. Seriously doubting if baseball will be an olympic sport by 2012, or even 2008.

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            • gsharpe
              Rookie
              • Sep 2003
              • 91

              #36
              Re: U.S. Baseball Team Fails to Make Olympics

              Apparently, most of you didn't see what happened, a 1-3 Mexico team knocked out the 3-0 (now 3-1) United States team. This is insane. Something is definitely wrong when the defending gold medalists and team with only one loss gets knocked out by a one team winner. Seriously doubting if baseball will be an olympic sport by 2012, or even 2008.

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              • gsharpe
                Rookie
                • Sep 2003
                • 91

                #37
                Re: U.S. Baseball Team Fails to Make Olympics

                Apparently, most of you didn't see what happened, a 1-3 Mexico team knocked out the 3-0 (now 3-1) United States team. This is insane. Something is definitely wrong when the defending gold medalists and team with only one loss gets knocked out by a one team winner. Seriously doubting if baseball will be an olympic sport by 2012, or even 2008.

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                • SPTO
                  binging
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 68046

                  #38
                  Re: U.S. Baseball Team Fails to Make Olympics

                  OK let me get this straight: Just because the baseball superpower in the US gets knocked out by a Mexico squad that means that there should be no more baseball as an olympic sport???

                  Hmm that's like saying since Canada hasn't won an Olympic Gold medal in Hockey since the 1940s that Hockey shouldn't have been an olympic sport. Then we wouldn't have seen Canada win it in 2002.

                  Upsets are part of sports deal with it. Would you have said the same thing if it was Cuba that did this?
                  Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

                  "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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                  • SPTO
                    binging
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 68046

                    #39
                    Re: U.S. Baseball Team Fails to Make Olympics

                    OK let me get this straight: Just because the baseball superpower in the US gets knocked out by a Mexico squad that means that there should be no more baseball as an olympic sport???

                    Hmm that's like saying since Canada hasn't won an Olympic Gold medal in Hockey since the 1940s that Hockey shouldn't have been an olympic sport. Then we wouldn't have seen Canada win it in 2002.

                    Upsets are part of sports deal with it. Would you have said the same thing if it was Cuba that did this?
                    Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

                    "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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                    • SPTO
                      binging
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 68046

                      #40
                      Re: U.S. Baseball Team Fails to Make Olympics

                      OK let me get this straight: Just because the baseball superpower in the US gets knocked out by a Mexico squad that means that there should be no more baseball as an olympic sport???

                      Hmm that's like saying since Canada hasn't won an Olympic Gold medal in Hockey since the 1940s that Hockey shouldn't have been an olympic sport. Then we wouldn't have seen Canada win it in 2002.

                      Upsets are part of sports deal with it. Would you have said the same thing if it was Cuba that did this?
                      Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

                      "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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                      • jake44np
                        Post Like a Champion!
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 9563

                        #41
                        Re: U.S. Baseball Team Fails to Make Olympics

                        Yeah i noticed that too, best record in our field(3-1) and didnt qualify? Mexico(1-3) gets lucky for one game and we are done? whats up with that?
                        ND Season Ticket Holder since '72.

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                        • jake44np
                          Post Like a Champion!
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 9563

                          #42
                          Re: U.S. Baseball Team Fails to Make Olympics

                          Yeah i noticed that too, best record in our field(3-1) and didnt qualify? Mexico(1-3) gets lucky for one game and we are done? whats up with that?
                          ND Season Ticket Holder since '72.

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                          • jake44np
                            Post Like a Champion!
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 9563

                            #43
                            Re: U.S. Baseball Team Fails to Make Olympics

                            Yeah i noticed that too, best record in our field(3-1) and didnt qualify? Mexico(1-3) gets lucky for one game and we are done? whats up with that?
                            ND Season Ticket Holder since '72.

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                            • snepp
                              We'll waste him too.
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 10007

                              #44
                              Re: U.S. Baseball Team Fails to Make Olympics

                              There is definately an issue with the way qualifying is setup. I believe the US team won the first 3 games by a combined score of 21-0. I'm seriously wondering how a 1-3 team can qualify while a 3-1 team can't. There seems to be a logic issue here...
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                              • snepp
                                We'll waste him too.
                                • Apr 2003
                                • 10007

                                #45
                                Re: U.S. Baseball Team Fails to Make Olympics

                                There is definately an issue with the way qualifying is setup. I believe the US team won the first 3 games by a combined score of 21-0. I'm seriously wondering how a 1-3 team can qualify while a 3-1 team can't. There seems to be a logic issue here...
                                Member of The OS Baseball Rocket Scientists Association

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