Jays get:
J.A. Happ
Brandon Lyon
David Carpenter
Astros get:
Ben Francisco
Francisco Cordero
Asher Wojiechowski
Joe Musgrave
David Rollins
Carlos Perez
player to be named later
From a Jays perspective, getting rid of the 2 MLB players really isn't important in the deal. Cordero sucked(was reason Jays lost at least 5 games this season), Francisco wasn't really important part on bench(and Jays have lots of OF).
Main thing is the 4 prospects Jays gave up. 3 of which are around top 10 prospects in Jays system.
Sure, they did get Lyons who is a good reliever, Carpenter who could be a good reliever(had 1 good and 1 bad season), but Happ seems to be the big question in this deal and will be deciding factor on who wins.
If he plays like he did in Philly, then Jays win. If he plays like he did in Houston, then Astros win.
Happ:
ERA around 3.60 with run support of 3+ runs, and ERA over 5.20 with 0-2 runs support.
In past 2 seasons while with Astros(with 0-2 run support) he went 3-19 with ERA over 5.70
He played 46 games with Astros in those 2 seasons. So 22/46 games with basically no run support must really suck.
Jays of course are one of MLBs best run scoring teams, so Happ will get the run support, and seems like his confidence in pitching really depends on how his team preforms. So hopefully he does play like he did in Philly(also having lots of run support there)
J.A. Happ
Brandon Lyon
David Carpenter
Astros get:
Ben Francisco
Francisco Cordero
Asher Wojiechowski
Joe Musgrave
David Rollins
Carlos Perez
player to be named later
From a Jays perspective, getting rid of the 2 MLB players really isn't important in the deal. Cordero sucked(was reason Jays lost at least 5 games this season), Francisco wasn't really important part on bench(and Jays have lots of OF).
Main thing is the 4 prospects Jays gave up. 3 of which are around top 10 prospects in Jays system.
Sure, they did get Lyons who is a good reliever, Carpenter who could be a good reliever(had 1 good and 1 bad season), but Happ seems to be the big question in this deal and will be deciding factor on who wins.
If he plays like he did in Philly, then Jays win. If he plays like he did in Houston, then Astros win.
Happ:
ERA around 3.60 with run support of 3+ runs, and ERA over 5.20 with 0-2 runs support.
In past 2 seasons while with Astros(with 0-2 run support) he went 3-19 with ERA over 5.70
He played 46 games with Astros in those 2 seasons. So 22/46 games with basically no run support must really suck.
Jays of course are one of MLBs best run scoring teams, so Happ will get the run support, and seems like his confidence in pitching really depends on how his team preforms. So hopefully he does play like he did in Philly(also having lots of run support there)
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