who has the better bullpen??

[rsox]

Re: who has the better bullpen??

I think the two pens are even, with the exception that the Yankees have two deent lefties in there pen, and the Sox have one and one unproven, Foulke had more saves than Rivera last year, but Rivera has been a better Closer over the years, but, at times did not look like the Rivera we all know, teams were scoring off him, and he was allowing more baserunners, we'll see if he is back to normal this season, the Bullpens should look like:

Boston
RHP Bronson Arroyo
LHP Alan Embree
RHP Keith Foulke
LHP Mark Malaska
RHP Ramiro Mendoza
RHP Mike Timlin
RHP Scott Williamson

New York
RHP Tom Gordon
LHP Felix Heredia
RHP Steve Karsay
RHP Paul Quantrill
RHP Mariano Rivera
LHP Gabe White

Both these Bullpens match up well, it's going to be a great year to watch this rivalry.

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cub said:
Between those two, I'd take the Sox. Williamson setting up Foulke sounds pretty good to me.

But I'd put the Cubs pen against any of them.

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The Cubs Bullpen is also pretty good, so we'll give them honorable mention.

Cubs pen
RHP Joe Borowski
RHP Kyle Farnsworth
RHP Gary Glover
RHP LaTroy Hawkins
LHP Kent Mercker
LHP Mike Remlinger

[dooch]

Re: who has the better bullpen??

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rsox said:
I think the two pens are even, with the exception that the Yankees have two deent lefties in there pen, and the Sox have one and one unproven, Foulke had more saves than Rivera last year, but Rivera has been a better Closer over the years, but, at times did not look like the Rivera we all know, teams were scoring off him, and he was allowing more baserunners, we'll see if he is back to normal this season, the Bullpens should look like:

Boston
RHP Bronson Arroyo
LHP Alan Embree
RHP Keith Foulke
LHP Mark Malaska
RHP Ramiro Mendoza
RHP Mike Timlin
RHP Scott Williamson

New York
RHP Tom Gordon
LHP Felix Heredia
RHP Steve Karsay
RHP Paul Quantrill
RHP Mariano Rivera
LHP Gabe White

Both these Bullpens match up well, it's going to be a great year to watch this rivalry.

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cub said:
Between those two, I'd take the Sox. Williamson setting up Foulke sounds pretty good to me.

But I'd put the Cubs pen against any of them.

<hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

The Cubs Bullpen is also pretty good, so we'll give them honorable mention.

Cubs pen
RHP Joe Borowski
RHP Kyle Farnsworth
RHP Gary Glover
RHP LaTroy Hawkins
LHP Kent Mercker
LHP Mike Remlinger

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Rivera is still money when it counts, i.e. the playoffs. Foulke is good, don't get me wrong, but his out pitch is a changeup. He hasn't consistently been a dominant closer- in fact, before last year, he lost his job with the White Sox. So until he does it for a few years in a row, we'll see. In the AL anyways, there's Rivera then everyone else.

[dooch]

Re: who has the better bullpen??

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rsox said:
I think the two pens are even, with the exception that the Yankees have two deent lefties in there pen, and the Sox have one and one unproven, Foulke had more saves than Rivera last year, but Rivera has been a better Closer over the years, but, at times did not look like the Rivera we all know, teams were scoring off him, and he was allowing more baserunners, we'll see if he is back to normal this season, the Bullpens should look like:

Boston
RHP Bronson Arroyo
LHP Alan Embree
RHP Keith Foulke
LHP Mark Malaska
RHP Ramiro Mendoza
RHP Mike Timlin
RHP Scott Williamson

New York
RHP Tom Gordon
LHP Felix Heredia
RHP Steve Karsay
RHP Paul Quantrill
RHP Mariano Rivera
LHP Gabe White

Both these Bullpens match up well, it's going to be a great year to watch this rivalry.

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cub said:
Between those two, I'd take the Sox. Williamson setting up Foulke sounds pretty good to me.

But I'd put the Cubs pen against any of them.

<hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

The Cubs Bullpen is also pretty good, so we'll give them honorable mention.

Cubs pen
RHP Joe Borowski
RHP Kyle Farnsworth
RHP Gary Glover
RHP LaTroy Hawkins
LHP Kent Mercker
LHP Mike Remlinger

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Rivera is still money when it counts, i.e. the playoffs. Foulke is good, don't get me wrong, but his out pitch is a changeup. He hasn't consistently been a dominant closer- in fact, before last year, he lost his job with the White Sox. So until he does it for a few years in a row, we'll see. In the AL anyways, there's Rivera then everyone else.

[dooch]

Re: who has the better bullpen??

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rsox said:
I think the two pens are even, with the exception that the Yankees have two deent lefties in there pen, and the Sox have one and one unproven, Foulke had more saves than Rivera last year, but Rivera has been a better Closer over the years, but, at times did not look like the Rivera we all know, teams were scoring off him, and he was allowing more baserunners, we'll see if he is back to normal this season, the Bullpens should look like:

Boston
RHP Bronson Arroyo
LHP Alan Embree
RHP Keith Foulke
LHP Mark Malaska
RHP Ramiro Mendoza
RHP Mike Timlin
RHP Scott Williamson

New York
RHP Tom Gordon
LHP Felix Heredia
RHP Steve Karsay
RHP Paul Quantrill
RHP Mariano Rivera
LHP Gabe White

Both these Bullpens match up well, it's going to be a great year to watch this rivalry.

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cub said:
Between those two, I'd take the Sox. Williamson setting up Foulke sounds pretty good to me.

But I'd put the Cubs pen against any of them.

<hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

The Cubs Bullpen is also pretty good, so we'll give them honorable mention.

Cubs pen
RHP Joe Borowski
RHP Kyle Farnsworth
RHP Gary Glover
RHP LaTroy Hawkins
LHP Kent Mercker
LHP Mike Remlinger

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Rivera is still money when it counts, i.e. the playoffs. Foulke is good, don't get me wrong, but his out pitch is a changeup. He hasn't consistently been a dominant closer- in fact, before last year, he lost his job with the White Sox. So until he does it for a few years in a row, we'll see. In the AL anyways, there's Rivera then everyone else.