4 man vs 5 man rotations, which is better?

[cub]

Re: 4 man vs 5 man rotations, which is better?

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bkrich83 said:
If Clement can start spotting his stuff consistently then watch out. He's really got electric stuff. I am not now, nor have I been a big Zambrano fan in the past. But I could be wrong on that one.

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I haven't seen Clement for as long as you, but from what I've seen Clement's slider is one of the best in baseball. That said, Zambrano's 94-mph sidearm turbo sinker is pretty darned good. It drops about a foot and a half, with serious speed.

[Michael23]

Re: 4 man vs 5 man rotations, which is better?

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Michael23 said:
If you'll remember last year Baker thought that Zambrano could eventually be better than Prior. WHAT? Yes, he said it. I expect big things from Zambrano this year and a little more consistency out of Clement. He was either great last year or he got ripped around the yard. With all of the young arms in the Cub system having Maddux around will help. He'll probably win 10-15, but the presence will have a great impact on Zam, Cruz, Prior, Beltran, Guzman, and even Kerry Wood who sometimes loses his mind.

IMO a 5 man rotation is the way to go. If you go four you better have a damn good bullpen to get those starters some rest. They may run out of gas by mid-September.

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If Clement can start spotting his stuff consistently then watch out. He's really got electric stuff. I am not now, nor have I been a big Zambrano fan in the past. But I could be wrong on that one.

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Yeah. You'll know in the first or second inning what you're gonna get with Clement. If that sinker is not dropping, look out.

As far as Zambrano, I was a little disappointed in his actions late in the season. He just completely lost his head in a alot of games. Thhis is where I think the combo of Maddux and Baker will help. He is nearly unhittable when he's even close to being on.

[Michael23]

Re: 4 man vs 5 man rotations, which is better?

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Michael23 said:
If you'll remember last year Baker thought that Zambrano could eventually be better than Prior. WHAT? Yes, he said it. I expect big things from Zambrano this year and a little more consistency out of Clement. He was either great last year or he got ripped around the yard. With all of the young arms in the Cub system having Maddux around will help. He'll probably win 10-15, but the presence will have a great impact on Zam, Cruz, Prior, Beltran, Guzman, and even Kerry Wood who sometimes loses his mind.

IMO a 5 man rotation is the way to go. If you go four you better have a damn good bullpen to get those starters some rest. They may run out of gas by mid-September.

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If Clement can start spotting his stuff consistently then watch out. He's really got electric stuff. I am not now, nor have I been a big Zambrano fan in the past. But I could be wrong on that one.

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Yeah. You'll know in the first or second inning what you're gonna get with Clement. If that sinker is not dropping, look out.

As far as Zambrano, I was a little disappointed in his actions late in the season. He just completely lost his head in a alot of games. Thhis is where I think the combo of Maddux and Baker will help. He is nearly unhittable when he's even close to being on.

[Michael23]

Re: 4 man vs 5 man rotations, which is better?

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bkrich83 said:
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Michael23 said:
If you'll remember last year Baker thought that Zambrano could eventually be better than Prior. WHAT? Yes, he said it. I expect big things from Zambrano this year and a little more consistency out of Clement. He was either great last year or he got ripped around the yard. With all of the young arms in the Cub system having Maddux around will help. He'll probably win 10-15, but the presence will have a great impact on Zam, Cruz, Prior, Beltran, Guzman, and even Kerry Wood who sometimes loses his mind.

IMO a 5 man rotation is the way to go. If you go four you better have a damn good bullpen to get those starters some rest. They may run out of gas by mid-September.

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If Clement can start spotting his stuff consistently then watch out. He's really got electric stuff. I am not now, nor have I been a big Zambrano fan in the past. But I could be wrong on that one.

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Yeah. You'll know in the first or second inning what you're gonna get with Clement. If that sinker is not dropping, look out.

As far as Zambrano, I was a little disappointed in his actions late in the season. He just completely lost his head in a alot of games. Thhis is where I think the combo of Maddux and Baker will help. He is nearly unhittable when he's even close to being on.

[rsox]

Re: 4 man vs 5 man rotations, which is better?

At the start of the season the 4 man rotation makes sense, you play less games the first month and a half or so, but as the season goes on i think it would not work in todays game, starting pitchers today are not conditioned to pitch on three days rest, and most tend to struggle when they do, it works in the playoffs because of the ammount of off days, play a game then off, play a couple games then off, but over the long (and hot) summer months i don't think it would work,
it's funny to look at old starts and see pitchers make 37-40 starts in a season, now some teams don't even have pitchers make 30 starts in a season ('03 Reds).

[rsox]

Re: 4 man vs 5 man rotations, which is better?

At the start of the season the 4 man rotation makes sense, you play less games the first month and a half or so, but as the season goes on i think it would not work in todays game, starting pitchers today are not conditioned to pitch on three days rest, and most tend to struggle when they do, it works in the playoffs because of the ammount of off days, play a game then off, play a couple games then off, but over the long (and hot) summer months i don't think it would work,
it's funny to look at old starts and see pitchers make 37-40 starts in a season, now some teams don't even have pitchers make 30 starts in a season ('03 Reds).

[rsox]

Re: 4 man vs 5 man rotations, which is better?

At the start of the season the 4 man rotation makes sense, you play less games the first month and a half or so, but as the season goes on i think it would not work in todays game, starting pitchers today are not conditioned to pitch on three days rest, and most tend to struggle when they do, it works in the playoffs because of the ammount of off days, play a game then off, play a couple games then off, but over the long (and hot) summer months i don't think it would work,
it's funny to look at old starts and see pitchers make 37-40 starts in a season, now some teams don't even have pitchers make 30 starts in a season ('03 Reds).