Column about G-Stein being a blessing for MLB..

**NYJets** · 02-18-2004, 08:16 PM

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DonovanMD said:
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bkrich83 said:
I don't think anyone here was blaming George. At least I wasn't. Like I and most other people have said, it's the MLB and the Players Associations fault that baseball is in the state it is.

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the players are bad but is it there responsibilty to turn down salary offers to keep the integrity of the game? The owners are the ones paying and George S and company are raising salarys out of some teams reach. If you offer it they will play. No one asks for less than what they being offerd

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And there should be a system that stops owners from doing that. The only contract I blame totally on an owner is the Arod contract. They really overpaid for him. The rest? They are just trying to outbid other teams. If George doesn't give someone money, someone else will. There is nothing to blame but the system.

**bkrich83** · 02-18-2004, 08:16 PM

Re: Column about G-Stein being a blessing for MLB..

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DonovanMD said:
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bkrich83 said:
I don't think anyone here was blaming George. At least I wasn't. Like I and most other people have said, it's the MLB and the Players Associations fault that baseball is in the state it is.

<hr /></blockquote>

the players are bad but is it there responsibilty to turn down salary offers to keep the integrity of the game? The owners are the ones paying and George S and company are raising salarys out of some teams reach. If you offer it they will play. No one asks for less than what they being offerd

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However ultimitely it will be the players association who will never allow a Salary Cap/Floor to be part of the Collective Bargaining Agreement. It's just not gonna happen.

**bkrich83** · 02-18-2004, 08:16 PM

Re: Column about G-Stein being a blessing for MLB..

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DonovanMD said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
bkrich83 said:
I don't think anyone here was blaming George. At least I wasn't. Like I and most other people have said, it's the MLB and the Players Associations fault that baseball is in the state it is.

<hr /></blockquote>

the players are bad but is it there responsibilty to turn down salary offers to keep the integrity of the game? The owners are the ones paying and George S and company are raising salarys out of some teams reach. If you offer it they will play. No one asks for less than what they being offerd

<hr /></blockquote>

However ultimitely it will be the players association who will never allow a Salary Cap/Floor to be part of the Collective Bargaining Agreement. It's just not gonna happen.

**bkrich83** · 02-18-2004, 08:16 PM

Re: Column about G-Stein being a blessing for MLB..

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DonovanMD said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
bkrich83 said:
I don't think anyone here was blaming George. At least I wasn't. Like I and most other people have said, it's the MLB and the Players Associations fault that baseball is in the state it is.

<hr /></blockquote>

the players are bad but is it there responsibilty to turn down salary offers to keep the integrity of the game? The owners are the ones paying and George S and company are raising salarys out of some teams reach. If you offer it they will play. No one asks for less than what they being offerd

<hr /></blockquote>

However ultimitely it will be the players association who will never allow a Salary Cap/Floor to be part of the Collective Bargaining Agreement. It's just not gonna happen.

**K_GUN** · 02-18-2004, 08:17 PM

Re: Column about G-Stein being a blessing for MLB..

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bkrich83 said:
Most of the posts I have read, and people I have talked to don't blame George or the Yankees at this point. It's baseball's fault. Radio shows out here are saying the same thing.

Quit being so sensitive to someone not thinking the Yankees are the greatest thing since sliced bread. You're starting to remind me of the LSU fans before the Rose/Sugar Bowl.

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for me that's the real pain here

i don't really care about arod..we have manny/nomar

it's the F@#$%%ing annoying yankee FANS that i can't stand--my cousin is one--god forbid you tell them they don't have the best team in baseball

**K_GUN** · 02-18-2004, 08:17 PM

Re: Column about G-Stein being a blessing for MLB..

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bkrich83 said:
Most of the posts I have read, and people I have talked to don't blame George or the Yankees at this point. It's baseball's fault. Radio shows out here are saying the same thing.

Quit being so sensitive to someone not thinking the Yankees are the greatest thing since sliced bread. You're starting to remind me of the LSU fans before the Rose/Sugar Bowl.

<hr /></blockquote>

for me that's the real pain here

i don't really care about arod..we have manny/nomar

it's the F@#$%%ing annoying yankee FANS that i can't stand--my cousin is one--god forbid you tell them they don't have the best team in baseball

**K_GUN** · 02-18-2004, 08:17 PM

Re: Column about G-Stein being a blessing for MLB..

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
bkrich83 said:
Most of the posts I have read, and people I have talked to don't blame George or the Yankees at this point. It's baseball's fault. Radio shows out here are saying the same thing.

Quit being so sensitive to someone not thinking the Yankees are the greatest thing since sliced bread. You're starting to remind me of the LSU fans before the Rose/Sugar Bowl.

<hr /></blockquote>

for me that's the real pain here

i don't really care about arod..we have manny/nomar

it's the F@#$%%ing annoying yankee FANS that i can't stand--my cousin is one--god forbid you tell them they don't have the best team in baseball

**AI_Franchise03** · 02-18-2004, 08:32 PM

Re: Column about G-Stein being a blessing for MLB..

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bkrich83 said:
Most of the posts I have read, and people I have talked to don't blame George or the Yankees at this point. It's baseball's fault. Radio shows out here are saying the same thing.

Quit being so sensitive to someone not thinking the Yankees are the greatest thing since sliced bread. You're starting to remind me of the LSU fans before the Rose/Sugar Bowl.

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Who's being sensitive? I could careless what anybody thinks. Just that I found it odd that you could have missed all the posts/threads blaming the Yanks for driving MLB down, that's all.

**AI_Franchise03** · 02-18-2004, 08:32 PM

Re: Column about G-Stein being a blessing for MLB..

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
bkrich83 said:
Most of the posts I have read, and people I have talked to don't blame George or the Yankees at this point. It's baseball's fault. Radio shows out here are saying the same thing.

Quit being so sensitive to someone not thinking the Yankees are the greatest thing since sliced bread. You're starting to remind me of the LSU fans before the Rose/Sugar Bowl.

<hr /></blockquote>

Who's being sensitive? I could careless what anybody thinks. Just that I found it odd that you could have missed all the posts/threads blaming the Yanks for driving MLB down, that's all.

**AI_Franchise03** · 02-18-2004, 08:32 PM

Re: Column about G-Stein being a blessing for MLB..

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
bkrich83 said:
Most of the posts I have read, and people I have talked to don't blame George or the Yankees at this point. It's baseball's fault. Radio shows out here are saying the same thing.

Quit being so sensitive to someone not thinking the Yankees are the greatest thing since sliced bread. You're starting to remind me of the LSU fans before the Rose/Sugar Bowl.

<hr /></blockquote>

Who's being sensitive? I could careless what anybody thinks. Just that I found it odd that you could have missed all the posts/threads blaming the Yanks for driving MLB down, that's all.

**LetsGoPitt** · 02-18-2004, 08:33 PM

Re: Column about G-Stein being a blessing for MLB..

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nkhera1 said:
red sox fans are some of the BIGGEST complainers in the world. I mean its ok for them to get A-rod but its a killer when the yanks get him.

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It's bad when the Red Sox SHOULD have had ARod, except that the Players Union said "oh, no...he can't take that big of a pay cut, he'll starve!"

The Yankees are indirectly killing baseball. It's the Player's Union at fault for letting it happen, but the Yankees are the ones doing it. The Union is the hand holding the gun to baseball's head, but the Yankees are the hollow-tipped bullet inside.

**LetsGoPitt** · 02-18-2004, 08:33 PM

Re: Column about G-Stein being a blessing for MLB..

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nkhera1 said:
red sox fans are some of the BIGGEST complainers in the world. I mean its ok for them to get A-rod but its a killer when the yanks get him.

<hr /></blockquote>
It's bad when the Red Sox SHOULD have had ARod, except that the Players Union said "oh, no...he can't take that big of a pay cut, he'll starve!"

The Yankees are indirectly killing baseball. It's the Player's Union at fault for letting it happen, but the Yankees are the ones doing it. The Union is the hand holding the gun to baseball's head, but the Yankees are the hollow-tipped bullet inside.

**LetsGoPitt** · 02-18-2004, 08:33 PM

Re: Column about G-Stein being a blessing for MLB..

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
nkhera1 said:
red sox fans are some of the BIGGEST complainers in the world. I mean its ok for them to get A-rod but its a killer when the yanks get him.

<hr /></blockquote>
It's bad when the Red Sox SHOULD have had ARod, except that the Players Union said "oh, no...he can't take that big of a pay cut, he'll starve!"

The Yankees are indirectly killing baseball. It's the Player's Union at fault for letting it happen, but the Yankees are the ones doing it. The Union is the hand holding the gun to baseball's head, but the Yankees are the hollow-tipped bullet inside.

**rsox** · 02-18-2004, 08:34 PM

Re: Column about G-Stein being a blessing for MLB..

Steinbrenner is far from a blessing for the game of Baseball, but he is not the devil either, he is acting within the boundries of the league's collective barganing agreement, the problems start at the top, and at the top is Commissioner Bud Selig, Selig has allowed the game to become the way it is, when the first hundred-million dollar contract came across the table for his approval he should have declined approval, Selig is the problem not Steinbrenner (though Scott Boras finishes a strong second), besides, why shouldn't they let steinbrenner spend all the money he can, raise his payroll up to ridiculous ammounts, and have to pay the luxury tax, when George had to write that check for $57 million in luxury taxes last year the Brewers got a part of it, well Selig got part of it anyway, Baseball needs a salary cap, not just because of Steinbrenner, but because if it's not George it would be someone else.

**rsox** · 02-18-2004, 08:34 PM

Re: Column about G-Stein being a blessing for MLB..

Steinbrenner is far from a blessing for the game of Baseball, but he is not the devil either, he is acting within the boundries of the league's collective barganing agreement, the problems start at the top, and at the top is Commissioner Bud Selig, Selig has allowed the game to become the way it is, when the first hundred-million dollar contract came across the table for his approval he should have declined approval, Selig is the problem not Steinbrenner (though Scott Boras finishes a strong second), besides, why shouldn't they let steinbrenner spend all the money he can, raise his payroll up to ridiculous ammounts, and have to pay the luxury tax, when George had to write that check for $57 million in luxury taxes last year the Brewers got a part of it, well Selig got part of it anyway, Baseball needs a salary cap, not just because of Steinbrenner, but because if it's not George it would be someone else.

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