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  • Blzer
    Resident film pundit
    • Mar 2004
    • 42520

    #9286
    Re: MLB Off-Topic

    Suddenly I have major trepidation.
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    • 19
      Chaos Theory
      • Aug 2008
      • 8859

      #9287
      Re: MLB Off-Topic

      Originally posted by Majingir
      Found some details on the proposed changes:

      PITCH CLOCK RULES

      Clock starts when the pitcher has the ball on the mound and stops when he begins his windup or comes set.
      Should the pitcher step off the rubber, the clock resets.
      Hitters must be in the batter's box five seconds after the clock starts.
      Pitchers receive one warning per game.
      A second violation results in a ball being awarded to the hitter.
      The rule would come into effect on Opening Day.
      MOUND VISIT RULES

      Any visit from a manager, coach, or player to the mound, or if a pitcher leaves the mound to speak with another player, counts as a mound visit.
      More than one visit in the same inning results in the pitcher being removed from the game.
      No, thank you.

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      • Speedy
        #Ace
        • Apr 2008
        • 16143

        #9288
        Re: MLB Off-Topic

        Originally posted by Majingir
        MOUND VISIT RULES
        Any visit from a manager, coach, or player to the mound, or if a pitcher leaves the mound to speak with another player, counts as a mound visit.
        More than one visit in the same inning results in the pitcher being removed from the game.
        Big fan of this.
        Originally posted by Gibson88
        Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
        It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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        • Majingir
          Moderator
          • Apr 2005
          • 47576

          #9289
          Re: MLB Off-Topic

          I think in general there will be such mixed reactions to this, but we might see more negative ones online because there's obviously more hardcore fans chatting sports. But overall, I think it could help more than hurt. Fans complaining won't stop watching, but fans not as interested might tune in for longer,and that's a win for the MLB.

          Obviously based on reactions here I'm in minority thinking that these changes are well needed and long overdue. Next to football, I find baseball to have most dead time of the big sports leagues.

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          • notsobabybombers
            Pro
            • Jan 2018
            • 584

            #9290
            Re: MLB Off-Topic

            TEBOW MANIA IS RUNNING WILD.

            Tim Tebow, who hit .226 with eight home runs and 52 RBIs in 126 minor league games for the Mets last season, has been invited back to spring training in 2018.
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            • WaitTilNextYear
              Go Cubs Go
              • Mar 2013
              • 16830

              #9291
              Re: MLB Off-Topic

              Originally posted by Majingir
              Found some details on the proposed changes:

              PITCH CLOCK RULES

              Clock starts when the pitcher has the ball on the mound and stops when he begins his windup or comes set.
              Should the pitcher step off the rubber, the clock resets.
              Hitters must be in the batter's box five seconds after the clock starts.
              Pitchers receive one warning per game.
              A second violation results in a ball being awarded to the hitter.
              The rule would come into effect on Opening Day.
              MOUND VISIT RULES

              Any visit from a manager, coach, or player to the mound, or if a pitcher leaves the mound to speak with another player, counts as a mound visit.
              More than one visit in the same inning results in the pitcher being removed from the game.
              Seems like a pretty substantial loophole, eh? So we just get to see pitchers stepping off constantly instead of taking their full, normal time to deliver a baseball? Maybe the catcher can come out and visit more often? Would that also reset the clock? I am not one who even wants a pitch clock or thinks it'll make much difference, but how about they invent a sensical version of one at least.

              By the way, who else is looking forward to a bunch of thinkpieces about "is the new pitch clock causing this rise in pitcher injuries"? I, for one, can't wait to consume them.
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              • dubcity
                Hall Of Fame
                • May 2012
                • 17874

                #9292
                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
                By the way, who else is looking forward to a bunch of thinkpieces about "is the new pitch clock causing this rise in pitcher injuries"? I, for one, can't wait to consume them.
                Lol, people want that narrative so bad.

                Headline: Time Is Up On Pitch Clock, As injuries Mount By The Second

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                • SPTO
                  binging
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 68046

                  #9293
                  Re: MLB Off-Topic

                  Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
                  Seems like a pretty substantial loophole, eh? So we just get to see pitchers stepping off constantly instead of taking their full, normal time to deliver a baseball? Maybe the catcher can come out and visit more often? Would that also reset the clock? I am not one who even wants a pitch clock or thinks it'll make much difference, but how about they invent a sensical version of one at least.

                  .
                  Yeah the pitcher stepping off and resetting the clock would totally negate that rule to no end. Can you imagine how much that loophole would be abused?! I can understand why MLB proposed that as it would be a sop to the players but it's too much hassle IMO.
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                  • dubcity
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • May 2012
                    • 17874

                    #9294
                    Re: MLB Off-Topic

                    My guess is, and I could be wrong, that there will be a rule that the pitcher can't step off if there is 5 seconds or less left on the clock. Otherwise, yeah, it'll be a mess with pitchers trying to game the system.

                    Overall, doesn't it really help the pitchers to work at a quicker pace? At least starters anyway. Relievers are insane so logic doesn't always work on them.

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                    • steelerfan
                      MVP
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 4347

                      #9295
                      Re: MLB Off-Topic

                      All I know is that I used to love watching Roy Oswalt pitch when he was with the Astros. He wasted no time on the mound. He had the quickest pace of anyone I can remember and it was always enjoyable to me.
                      Last edited by steelerfan; 01-19-2018, 05:10 PM.

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                      • SPTO
                        binging
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 68046

                        #9296
                        Re: MLB Off-Topic

                        Originally posted by steelerfan
                        All I know is that I used to live watching Roy Oswalt pitch when he was with the Astros. He wasted no time on the mound. He had the quickest pace of anyone I can remember and it was always enjoyable to me.
                        Guys like Oswalt, Halladay and Buehrle were a pleasure to watch. Those guys didn't waste time at all and in some cases would get visibly upset if the batter is taking his sweet ol' time at the plate.
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                        • Majingir
                          Moderator
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 47576

                          #9297
                          Re: MLB Off-Topic

                          Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
                          Seems like a pretty substantial loophole, eh? So we just get to see pitchers stepping off constantly instead of taking their full, normal time to deliver a baseball? Maybe the catcher can come out and visit more often? Would that also reset the clock? I am not one who even wants a pitch clock or thinks it'll make much difference, but how about they invent a sensical version of one at least.

                          By the way, who else is looking forward to a bunch of thinkpieces about "is the new pitch clock causing this rise in pitcher injuries"? I, for one, can't wait to consume them.
                          The mound visit rule says that only 1 visit an inning is allowed by anyone. After that, pitcher must be removed.

                          I think injuries will just depend on the pitcher. Some might get injured and just blame the clock even if its not the reason.

                          And Buehrle is the biggest example of a guy who pitches quick and didn't get hurt. If games end up being that type of pace and guys don't get hurt by this, that'd even a win-win.

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                          • WaitTilNextYear
                            Go Cubs Go
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 16830

                            #9298
                            Re: MLB Off-Topic

                            Originally posted by steelerfan
                            All I know is that I used to love watching Roy Oswalt pitch when he was with the Astros. He wasted no time on the mound. He had the quickest pace of anyone I can remember and it was always enjoyable to me.
                            Originally posted by SPTO
                            Guys like Oswalt, Halladay and Buehrle were a pleasure to watch. Those guys didn't waste time at all and in some cases would get visibly upset if the batter is taking his sweet ol' time at the plate.
                            To me, the fact that we can name only a handful of pitchers who were "quick workers" with "quick deliveries" out of many thousands of pitchers we've watched as baseball fans suggests these guys have always been the exception rather than the rule. There was no "golden age" in which pitchers were all Fast Eddie on the mound. And games were so much quicker and dynamic because of that. It's just that now, length of the game (or is it pace of the game?) is a "problem." Never fear, Rob Manfred is on the case!
                            Last edited by WaitTilNextYear; 01-19-2018, 05:57 PM.
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                            • Money99
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 12695

                              #9299
                              Re: MLB Off-Topic

                              I read Hank Aaron's biography and a 12-inning game in 1957, the game lasted 2hrs, 34min. It was the 2nd longest game of the season.

                              These players of today have gotten soft and spoiled with all the pomp they're allowed to abuse.

                              If Pedroia needs 18s between pitches to stretch his face and check his straps to be effective then he's mentally weak and should retire.

                              I'm all for removing all the unnecessary fluff that players love to abuse.
                              The Cubs and Nationals engaged in two playoff games that lastest 4 and 4.5 hours in 9 inning games!
                              That is absolutely ridiculous.

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                              • TripleCrown9
                                Keep the Faith
                                • May 2010
                                • 23689

                                #9300
                                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                                Originally posted by Money99
                                I read Hank Aaron's biography and a 12-inning game in 1957, the game lasted 2hrs, 34min. It was the 2nd longest game of the season.

                                These players of today have gotten soft and spoiled with all the pomp they're allowed to abuse.

                                If Pedroia needs 18s between pitches to stretch his face and check his straps to be effective then he's mentally weak and should retire.

                                I'm all for removing all the unnecessary fluff that players love to abuse.
                                The Cubs and Nationals engaged in two playoff games that lastest 4 and 4.5 hours in 9 inning games!
                                That is absolutely ridiculous.

                                Sent from my LG-K210 using Operation Sports mobile app
                                Terrible example of a player to call mentally weak.
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