MLB Off-Topic

[Majingir]

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Maybe 10 years ago I was really into it, around the time I was a student and the Xbox 360 was out. I definitely had a bit of an addiction to CoD4 and MW2, along with one of the earlier FIFA UT modes, they were great and very addictive.



But luckily I guess these games became worse and worse, far more interested in trying to get extra money out of you than actually make a great game. If they'd actually just continued to improve then I'd probably still be hooked now. Now I can't stand playing online, can't put up with all the microtransaction nonsense and only really play offline games.



If I'd grown up with this level of microtransactions being normal, then it probably wouldn't irk me so much, hell, maybe I'd even be spending extra money on them, but luckily I'm just old enough to be put off by the whole thing. Kids these days don't stand a chance

For me, it was the fact that each year games were starting to feel like nothing but roster updates. And then I just took step back realizing how much money I spent on just a roster update each year.

And the main focus on online play which I don't care about one bit.

[TripleCrown9]

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According to Jeff Passan, the MLB is looking into providing Minor Leaguers with a "significant increase in salary", as well as a higher standard of living and improved transportation.

[SPTO]

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According to Jeff Passan, the MLB is looking into providing Minor Leaguers with a "significant increase in salary", as well as a higher standard of living and improved transportation.

Nice to see MLB following the lead of the Blue Jays who will be increasing minor league pay by more than 50%.

[TripleCrown9]

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Is 50% even enough? Most MiLB guys are barely making minimum wage, if that.

[Jr.]

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Is 50% even enough? Most MiLB guys are barely making minimum wage, if that.

It's an increase to about $1600 a month for low A up to about $3,500 a month for AAA I think.

Still not great, especially at the lower levels.

[ShowTyme15]

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It's an increase to about $1600 a month for low A up to about $3,500 a month for AAA I think.

Still not great, especially at the lower levels.

There are people that work 40 hours a week and don't make $1600 a month. Pretty sure the living arrangements will either be free, partially paid (by the team), or it will be like the Indy leagues with what is know as a "host" family.

Not sure how traveling is going to change. Highly doubt teams are going to shell out cash to fly MiLB guys around. They'll stick with buses, but I'm not sure how you can upgrade those to more than what they are now.

I agree the pay is rough in the lower minors, but it is better than the $500 a month some of these guys were making previously. Some less than that. Still a long ways to go.

$3,500 a month isn't bad, but they guys playing in the Minors in a state like CA are going to feel it when it comes to taxes. It'll bring that total way down.

[TripleCrown9]

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There are people that work 40 hours a week and don't make $1600 a month. Pretty sure the living arrangements will either be free, partially paid (by the team), or it will be like the Indy leagues with what is know as a "host" family.

Not sure how traveling is going to change. Highly doubt teams are going to shell out cash to fly MiLB guys around. They'll stick with buses, but I'm not sure how you can upgrade those to more than what they are now.

I agree the pay is rough in the lower minors, but it is better than the $500 a month some of these guys were making previously. Some less than that. Still a long ways to go.

$3,500 a month isn't bad, but they guys playing in the Minors in a state like CA are going to feel it when it comes to taxes. It'll bring that total way down.

I can attest to that lol. I'm working towards maybe 3500 a month, and I am ECSTATIC.

[Jr.]

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There are people that work 40 hours a week and don't make $1600 a month. Pretty sure the living arrangements will either be free, partially paid (by the team), or it will be like the Indy leagues with what is know as a "host" family.

Not sure how traveling is going to change. Highly doubt teams are going to shell out cash to fly MiLB guys around. They'll stick with buses, but I'm not sure how you can upgrade those to more than what they are now.

I agree the pay is rough in the lower minors, but it is better than the $500 a month some of these guys were making previously. Some less than that. Still a long ways to go.

$3,500 a month isn't bad, but they guys playing in the Minors in a state like CA are going to feel it when it comes to taxes. It'll bring that total way down.

Living arrangements would be a very big upgrade. Guys sleeping 7 or 8 to a 2 bedroom apartment makes it rough. That and improving the nutrition at the clubhouses would go a long way.

Host families can be a godsend for the players (mine was amazing when I played summer ball in college), but I don't believe the organizations set any of that up and the families don't get any compensation for it in the minors.

[JaFFiTh]

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I’d love to make that money just to play baseball. I make just over minimum and detailing vehicles.. Heck $3500 would be double what I make currently (been working for 15 years)


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[CMH]

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I’d love to make that money just to play baseball. I make just over minimum and detailing vehicles.. Heck $3500 would be double what I make currently (been working for 15 years)


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The problem is you're also responsible for your food (because their per diem doesn't cover what a developing athlete needs to eat), you'll also need to find a job that will hire you during the off season while you out of pocket pay for training so you can develop enough to compete with the other players in the minors.

So while that money is better than you make, it's only for half the year, and you're likely not expected to spend most of your day training and developing during the other six months.

These guys don't make enough for what the job requires.

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[KSUowls]

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It's good that their pay will increase, but I've always wondered about one unintended consequence for playing minor league ball.

What happens to the guys who don't make it? If you're an 18 year old who then goes and spends 6 years in the minors before hanging up the cleats because you couldn't make it to the bigs, what then? Now you're a 24 year old with no college education, no trade skills, and no real world work experience. Even the guys who did go to college before playing minor league ball would be entering the work force at 28 or 29, several years removed from their degree and competing for entry level jobs against 22 year olds who are fresh out of college and may have a rdcent internship. I'm sure you would get some bonus points in the eye of an employer, but who knows if that would be enough.

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[Sportsforever]

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It's good that their pay will increase, but I've always wondered about one unintended consequence for playing minor league ball.

What happens to the guys who don't make it? If you're an 18 year old who then goes and spends 6 years in the minors before hanging up the cleats because you couldn't make it to the bigs, what then? Now you're a 24 year old with no college education, no trade skills, and no real world work experience. Even the guys who did go to college before playing minor league ball would be entering the work force at 28 or 29, several years removed from their degree and competing for entry level jobs against 22 year olds who are fresh out of college and may have a rdcent internship. I'm sure you would get some bonus points in the eye of an employer, but who knows if that would be enough.

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I've told this story on here before, but to me it's the real problem; MLB should be paying for these guys to get their education in the offseason (if they want it). A friend of mine had a nephew who was drafted out of high school...kid was talented and ended up spending 15 years in the minor leagues, but never got that call up for a cup of coffee. After 15 years of riding buses, grinding, etc, he retired out of AAA at the age of 33.

He was struck with the reality that he was 33, didn't have much saved up due to his poverty level income (I think his high salary had been in the $20K's), had no education, and really no work experience. The only thing he could do was baseball related; scouting, coaching, etc. That was eye opening to me and made me wish that MLB took better care of these guys, especially the ones who will never make it.

[Mercury112491]

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Nothing is stopping these guys from going to College first. Or getting a degree or learning a trade in the off season. Lots of people work two jobs or work a full time job and go to school at night. Players going into the minors know what they’re going to make and that lifestyle is well documented. They’re not tricked into it.

That being said there’s certainly more MLB could be doing for them.


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[Jr.]

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It's good that their pay will increase, but I've always wondered about one unintended consequence for playing minor league ball.

What happens to the guys who don't make it? If you're an 18 year old who then goes and spends 6 years in the minors before hanging up the cleats because you couldn't make it to the bigs, what then? Now you're a 24 year old with no college education, no trade skills, and no real world work experience. Even the guys who did go to college before playing minor league ball would be entering the work force at 28 or 29, several years removed from their degree and competing for entry level jobs against 22 year olds who are fresh out of college and may have a rdcent internship. I'm sure you would get some bonus points in the eye of an employer, but who knows if that would be enough.

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I've told this story on here before, but to me it's the real problem; MLB should be paying for these guys to get their education in the offseason (if they want it). A friend of mine had a nephew who was drafted out of high school...kid was talented and ended up spending 15 years in the minor leagues, but never got that call up for a cup of coffee. After 15 years of riding buses, grinding, etc, he retired out of AAA at the age of 33.

He was struck with the reality that he was 33, didn't have much saved up due to his poverty level income (I think his high salary had been in the $20K's), had no education, and really no work experience. The only thing he could do was baseball related; scouting, coaching, etc. That was eye opening to me and made me wish that MLB took better care of these guys, especially the ones who will never make it.

Agents/Players can negotiate with teams to pay for a player's education if they don't make a certain level. A couple of guys I knew that were drafted out of HS were able to do that.

[TheMatrix31]

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