What current players are going into Hall of Fame?

[Surfsup009]

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jake44np said:
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GCrusher23 said:
In addition to what you said:

Locks: Craig Biggio, Nomar Garciaparra, Todd Helton, Trevor Hoffman, Derek Jeter, Chipper Jones, Barry Larkin, Edgar Martinez, Greg Maddux, Mariano Rivera, Gary Sheffield, Frank Thomas

Possible HOFers: Carlos Delgado, Fred McGriff, Kevin Brown, John Franco, Andres Galarraga, Vladimir Guerrero, Mike Mussina, Magglio Ordonez, Scott Rolen, Jim Thome, Bernie Williams, Eric Gagne.

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Dude do you even know what the term lock meens? It meens for sure or without a doubt! None of the players mentioned on you so called locks list are locks for the hall of fame!
You really must not know much about baseball at all. A lock would be someone that could retire right now and be a first ballot hall of famer, not one guy on your list would make the hall right now based on what they have done so far!

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I would say Maddux is a stone cold lock. Jeter is as close to a lock as you can get. Hoffman is pretty close to a lock as well. His numbers are right up there with Eck, and he still has the highest save percentage of all time last I checked. With him being a closer though he may have to wait a few years.

[Surfsup009]

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Speaking of locks and first ballots. How about the class of 2006...McGwire, Ripken, and Gwynn. Three firts ballot guys in one class, when was the last time that happened?

[Surfsup009]

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Speaking of locks and first ballots. How about the class of 2006...McGwire, Ripken, and Gwynn. Three firts ballot guys in one class, when was the last time that happened?

[Surfsup009]

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Speaking of locks and first ballots. How about the class of 2006...McGwire, Ripken, and Gwynn. Three firts ballot guys in one class, when was the last time that happened?

[JStro]

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Surfsup009 said:
Speaking of locks and first ballots. How about the class of 2006...McGwire, Ripken, and Gwynn. Three firts ballot guys in one class, when was the last time that happened?

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1999- Nolan Ryan, George Brett, and Robin Yount

[JStro]

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Surfsup009 said:
Speaking of locks and first ballots. How about the class of 2006...McGwire, Ripken, and Gwynn. Three firts ballot guys in one class, when was the last time that happened?

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1999- Nolan Ryan, George Brett, and Robin Yount

[JStro]

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Surfsup009 said:
Speaking of locks and first ballots. How about the class of 2006...McGwire, Ripken, and Gwynn. Three firts ballot guys in one class, when was the last time that happened?

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1999- Nolan Ryan, George Brett, and Robin Yount

[samjjones]

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BraveWayne said:
Andruw Jones has got to be considered a near-lock. He's got around 250 HR's and he's only 27. Even if he never realizes his full offensive potential, he's still going to end up with HOF numbers.

My locks/near-locks: Randy Johnson, Roberto Alomar, Chipper Jones, Andruw Jones, Greg Maddux, Sammy Sosa, Ken Griffey Jr., Barry Larkin, Todd Helton, Roger Clemens, Jeff Bagwell, Craig Biggio, Tom Glavine, Mike Piazza, Jim Thome, Trever Hoffman, Barry Bonds, Vladimir Guerrero, Rafael Palmeiro, Pedro Martinez, Nomar Garciaparra, Manny Ramirez, Frank Thomas, Ivan Rodriguez, Mariano Rivera, Jason Giambi, Alex Rodriguez, Derek Jeter, Gary Sheffield, Edgar Martinez.

Possible: John Smoltz, Larry Walker, Bobby Abreu, Jim Edmonds, Scott Rolen, Brian Giles, Miguel Tejada, Javy Lopez, Curt Schilling, Magglio Ordonez, Juan Gonzalez, Kevin Brown, Mike Mussina, John Olerud, Carlos Delgado.

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Since everybody else is chiming in on this list, I'll offer my thoughts. Of these, I think only Maddux, Clemens, Piazza, Bonds, and Rivera are absolute locks. That means if these guys stopped playing today, they would get in. After them, I'd say Randy Johnson, Sosa, Glavine, Palmeiro, Pudge, A-Rod, and Jeter are looking good/borderline.

Barry Larkin will not get in. None of the closers listed would get in before Mariano. Your "possibles" list is pretty bad...I think only Smoltz and possibly Rolen stand a shot, and thats assuming Smoltz tacks on another 200 saves and Rolen continues to play at a high level for another 7 years.

I cannot believe that you even considered listing Javy Lopez.

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Andruw Jones has got to be considered a near-lock. He's got around 250 HR's and he's only 27. Even if he never realizes his full offensive potential, he's still going to end up with HOF numbers.

My locks/near-locks: Randy Johnson, Roberto Alomar, Chipper Jones, Andruw Jones, Greg Maddux, Sammy Sosa, Ken Griffey Jr., Barry Larkin, Todd Helton, Roger Clemens, Jeff Bagwell, Craig Biggio, Tom Glavine, Mike Piazza, Jim Thome, Trever Hoffman, Barry Bonds, Vladimir Guerrero, Rafael Palmeiro, Pedro Martinez, Nomar Garciaparra, Manny Ramirez, Frank Thomas, Ivan Rodriguez, Mariano Rivera, Jason Giambi, Alex Rodriguez, Derek Jeter, Gary Sheffield, Edgar Martinez.

Possible: John Smoltz, Larry Walker, Bobby Abreu, Jim Edmonds, Scott Rolen, Brian Giles, Miguel Tejada, Javy Lopez, Curt Schilling, Magglio Ordonez, Juan Gonzalez, Kevin Brown, Mike Mussina, John Olerud, Carlos Delgado.

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Since everybody else is chiming in on this list, I'll offer my thoughts. Of these, I think only Maddux, Clemens, Piazza, Bonds, and Rivera are absolute locks. That means if these guys stopped playing today, they would get in. After them, I'd say Randy Johnson, Sosa, Glavine, Palmeiro, Pudge, A-Rod, and Jeter are looking good/borderline.

Barry Larkin will not get in. None of the closers listed would get in before Mariano. Your "possibles" list is pretty bad...I think only Smoltz and possibly Rolen stand a shot, and thats assuming Smoltz tacks on another 200 saves and Rolen continues to play at a high level for another 7 years.

I cannot believe that you even considered listing Javy Lopez.

[samjjones]

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BraveWayne said:
Andruw Jones has got to be considered a near-lock. He's got around 250 HR's and he's only 27. Even if he never realizes his full offensive potential, he's still going to end up with HOF numbers.

My locks/near-locks: Randy Johnson, Roberto Alomar, Chipper Jones, Andruw Jones, Greg Maddux, Sammy Sosa, Ken Griffey Jr., Barry Larkin, Todd Helton, Roger Clemens, Jeff Bagwell, Craig Biggio, Tom Glavine, Mike Piazza, Jim Thome, Trever Hoffman, Barry Bonds, Vladimir Guerrero, Rafael Palmeiro, Pedro Martinez, Nomar Garciaparra, Manny Ramirez, Frank Thomas, Ivan Rodriguez, Mariano Rivera, Jason Giambi, Alex Rodriguez, Derek Jeter, Gary Sheffield, Edgar Martinez.

Possible: John Smoltz, Larry Walker, Bobby Abreu, Jim Edmonds, Scott Rolen, Brian Giles, Miguel Tejada, Javy Lopez, Curt Schilling, Magglio Ordonez, Juan Gonzalez, Kevin Brown, Mike Mussina, John Olerud, Carlos Delgado.

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Since everybody else is chiming in on this list, I'll offer my thoughts. Of these, I think only Maddux, Clemens, Piazza, Bonds, and Rivera are absolute locks. That means if these guys stopped playing today, they would get in. After them, I'd say Randy Johnson, Sosa, Glavine, Palmeiro, Pudge, A-Rod, and Jeter are looking good/borderline.

Barry Larkin will not get in. None of the closers listed would get in before Mariano. Your "possibles" list is pretty bad...I think only Smoltz and possibly Rolen stand a shot, and thats assuming Smoltz tacks on another 200 saves and Rolen continues to play at a high level for another 7 years.

I cannot believe that you even considered listing Javy Lopez.

[bravosfan]

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I put Lopez on my possible list because he's a catcher who will probably end up with 300+ HR's. There aren't many of those.

Of course if he moves to 1st or DH anytime soon, that would probably ruin any chance he might have had.

And to defend my locks/near-locks, I'm aware that not everyone I listed is a HOF'er right now, just projecting some players to that level. Obviously they won't all get there.

[bravosfan]

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I put Lopez on my possible list because he's a catcher who will probably end up with 300+ HR's. There aren't many of those.

Of course if he moves to 1st or DH anytime soon, that would probably ruin any chance he might have had.

And to defend my locks/near-locks, I'm aware that not everyone I listed is a HOF'er right now, just projecting some players to that level. Obviously they won't all get there.

[bravosfan]

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I put Lopez on my possible list because he's a catcher who will probably end up with 300+ HR's. There aren't many of those.

Of course if he moves to 1st or DH anytime soon, that would probably ruin any chance he might have had.

And to defend my locks/near-locks, I'm aware that not everyone I listed is a HOF'er right now, just projecting some players to that level. Obviously they won't all get there.

[Surfsup009]

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Surfsup009 said:
Speaking of locks and first ballots. How about the class of 2006...McGwire, Ripken, and Gwynn. Three firts ballot guys in one class, when was the last time that happened?

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1999- Nolan Ryan, George Brett, and Robin Yount

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Yeah whatever. That wasn't supposed to be that easy. I thought all those guys retired around the same time, but not in the same year. Those are two pretty good classes if you ask me.

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JStro said:
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Surfsup009 said:
Speaking of locks and first ballots. How about the class of 2006...McGwire, Ripken, and Gwynn. Three firts ballot guys in one class, when was the last time that happened?

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1999- Nolan Ryan, George Brett, and Robin Yount

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Yeah whatever. That wasn't supposed to be that easy. I thought all those guys retired around the same time, but not in the same year. Those are two pretty good classes if you ask me.