I want nothing to do with Heilman. He stunk last year horribly, and stunk the first half of the year at Norfolk. He can't get major or minor leaguers out...so I'm not trusting him. I'd take Ginter over him, but hopefully Erickson will be decent enough to hold the fort until we get another pitcher in here. If the Mets can just hold out until some more teams feel they are out of the playoff races, there'll be some more options out there that are more attractive than Benson or Ortiz.
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I want nothing to do with Heilman. He stunk last year horribly, and stunk the first half of the year at Norfolk. He can't get major or minor leaguers out...so I'm not trusting him. I'd take Ginter over him, but hopefully Erickson will be decent enough to hold the fort until we get another pitcher in here. If the Mets can just hold out until some more teams feel they are out of the playoff races, there'll be some more options out there that are more attractive than Benson or Ortiz. -
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Are you basing your assessment on Heilman based on half a season with one of the worst pitching coaches in Vern Ruhle? Heilman has been one of the best pitchers in AAA over the last month.
I think its unfair to make a definitive judgement on what Heilman is worth after watching him for half a season.
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Re: Mets get Mike DeJean
Are you basing your assessment on Heilman based on half a season with one of the worst pitching coaches in Vern Ruhle? Heilman has been one of the best pitchers in AAA over the last month.
I think its unfair to make a definitive judgement on what Heilman is worth after watching him for half a season.
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Are you basing your assessment on Heilman based on half a season with one of the worst pitching coaches in Vern Ruhle? Heilman has been one of the best pitchers in AAA over the last month.
I think its unfair to make a definitive judgement on what Heilman is worth after watching him for half a season.
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Such a Minor move...I'm waiting for a move that will help us in a playoff run. The mets bullpen hasn't been too bad. Well...at least not the righties...Stanton and Franco need to go.
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NY4Life said:
Such a Minor move...I'm waiting for a move that will help us in a playoff run. The mets bullpen hasn't been too bad. Well...at least not the righties...Stanton and Franco need to go.
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Hey, not a bad word about John Franco!Comment
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NY4Life said:
Such a Minor move...I'm waiting for a move that will help us in a playoff run. The mets bullpen hasn't been too bad. Well...at least not the righties...Stanton and Franco need to go.
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Hey, not a bad word about John Franco!Comment
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As an Orioles fan, I could care less that we got Garcia, but I'm ecstatic that we got rid of DeJean. Have fun watching him blow tons of leads.Comment
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As an Orioles fan, I could care less that we got Garcia, but I'm ecstatic that we got rid of DeJean. Have fun watching him blow tons of leads.Comment
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As an Orioles fan, I could care less that we got Garcia, but I'm ecstatic that we got rid of DeJean. Have fun watching him blow tons of leads.Comment
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Are you basing your assessment on Heilman based on half a season with one of the worst pitching coaches in Vern Ruhle? Heilman has been one of the best pitchers in AAA over the last month.
I think its unfair to make a definitive judgement on what Heilman is worth after watching him for half a season.
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The pitching coach didn't pitch last season, Heilman did. And he stunk. And I don't care if he's been pitching lights out for Norfolk the last month, since he was HORRIBLE for the three months before that. One good month doesn't make him ready for the majors. I'm not saying he's worthless, and I'm not saying that he's a bust (although things are looking that way right now), but I am saying that his rating is too high in ESPN 2K4 and I am saying that he's not a major league pitcher right now, cannot be counted on, and as a Mets fan I do not want him pitching for the big club this season.
Just looked up his stats... 4.65 ERA, 110.1 innings, 120 hits, 42 BB, 94 Ks, 57 ER, 71 R. That doesn't impress me, even though he must have been on fire for a bit to get his ERA under 5.50.Comment
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Viper said:
Are you basing your assessment on Heilman based on half a season with one of the worst pitching coaches in Vern Ruhle? Heilman has been one of the best pitchers in AAA over the last month.
I think its unfair to make a definitive judgement on what Heilman is worth after watching him for half a season.
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The pitching coach didn't pitch last season, Heilman did. And he stunk. And I don't care if he's been pitching lights out for Norfolk the last month, since he was HORRIBLE for the three months before that. One good month doesn't make him ready for the majors. I'm not saying he's worthless, and I'm not saying that he's a bust (although things are looking that way right now), but I am saying that his rating is too high in ESPN 2K4 and I am saying that he's not a major league pitcher right now, cannot be counted on, and as a Mets fan I do not want him pitching for the big club this season.
Just looked up his stats... 4.65 ERA, 110.1 innings, 120 hits, 42 BB, 94 Ks, 57 ER, 71 R. That doesn't impress me, even though he must have been on fire for a bit to get his ERA under 5.50.Comment
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