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  • RoyalBoyle78
    Aka."Footballforever"
    • May 2003
    • 23918

    #1

    Howe about Dykstra next?

    This is what was in the NY Daliy News today.

    Howe about Dykstra next?

    BY ADAM RUBIN
    DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER

    Lenny Dykstra with the Mets in '80s.
    The Mets could reach to their glory days for Art Howe's successor. Team brass may consider pairing hard-nosed Lenny Dykstra, who serves as a consultant to Jim Duquette and Jeff Wilpon, with bench coach Larry Bowa to try to restore a swagger to the organization, according to sources.

    "He's not going to accept losing," one Mets insider said.

    Owner Fred Wilpon mentioned managerial experience as a criterion for the next skipper, but Duquette said the organization will "maintain flexibility" when identifying candidates.

    Dykstra, 41, spent a week during spring training as a Mets instructor and motivational speaker and said at the time he couldn't handle a full-time job with the organization because of his business responsibilities in California, which include upscale car washes and a retail center. His subsequent conversations with Mets brass are believed to have fueled a desire to return to Flushing, where he spent five seasons and cemented his "Nails" nickname. Bowa, the Phillies manager who is expected to be out after the season, was the third-base coach when Dykstra played in Philadelphia. He could be a complement to the ex-Met with his managerial experience.

    The Mets may use tradition - specifically the 1986 title team - to help reinvigorate a disgruntled fan base.

    "I've been asked by a lot of clubs to get back into baseball," Dykstra said during spring training, explaining his role as an instructor. "I thought about doing it for a while and it never was right. The Mets, when I met Jim in Arizona (last season), and me and him got to talk and spend some serious time together, I was just really, really impressed with his attitude and his knowledge of today's player and what kind of product that needs to be put on the field to put people in the seats. When it all comes down to it, we're in the business of putting people in the seats. We're in the entertainment business, and you get entertained by winning games.

    "That's something I'm pretty good at. I'm not afraid to say that. I've always been associated with winning teams. I think some people are just winners."

    Added Dykstra in March: "One of the things I'm not afraid to say is that I was a smart player. There's a group of players that are just going to dominate no matter what, because they're special. ... But the rest, it's a fine line between hitting .300 and hitting .280, or winning 3-2 or losing 3-2. Setting up pitchers, working counts, it's a whole game plan.

    "One thing about me, when I do something, I try to do it as hard as I can, and I try to do it right. Don't forget, look who I learned from - Keith Hernandez, Gary Carter, Ray Knight, Larry Bowa. These are guys that I was taught and learned how to play the game from the way it's supposed to be played."

    That attitude, one Mets insider said, could help infuse the fan base and reinvigorate the clubhouse.
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  • jordan0386
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    • May 2003
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    #2
    Re: Howe about Dykstra next?

    only the die hard would want him here

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    • jordan0386
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      • May 2003
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      #3
      Re: Howe about Dykstra next?

      only the die hard would want him here

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      • RoyalBoyle78
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        • May 2003
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        #4
        Re: Howe about Dykstra next?

        Originally posted by jordan0386
        only the die hard would want him here
        Well Im a diehard METS fan and I wouldn't mind trying this idea out, plus if your a MET fan and your not Die Hard, us Die Hards could careless about what the others think!
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        • RoyalBoyle78
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          • May 2003
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          #5
          Re: Howe about Dykstra next?

          Originally posted by jordan0386
          only the die hard would want him here
          Well Im a diehard METS fan and I wouldn't mind trying this idea out, plus if your a MET fan and your not Die Hard, us Die Hards could careless about what the others think!
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          • fsquid
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            • Jul 2002
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            #6
            Re: Howe about Dykstra next?

            Ummm, wouldn't we want someone with experience?? If we do this, they better get a very experrienced coaching staff.

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            • fsquid
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              • Jul 2002
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              #7
              Re: Howe about Dykstra next?

              Ummm, wouldn't we want someone with experience?? If we do this, they better get a very experrienced coaching staff.

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              • jordan0386
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                • May 2003
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                #8
                Re: Howe about Dykstra next?

                bowa, i guess

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                • jordan0386
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                  • May 2003
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                  #9
                  Re: Howe about Dykstra next?

                  bowa, i guess

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                  • bdunn13
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                    • Jul 2002
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                    #10
                    Re: Howe about Dykstra next?

                    Doesn't nails have a speach impediment? I don't think that would work out too well for meetings, and club house pow wows.
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                    • bdunn13
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                      • Jul 2002
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                      #11
                      Re: Howe about Dykstra next?

                      Doesn't nails have a speach impediment? I don't think that would work out too well for meetings, and club house pow wows.
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                      • glucklich
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                        • Jun 2004
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                        #12
                        Re: Howe about Dykstra next?

                        They should go after Valentine again...he is kind of the opposite of Dusty Baker which can be good.

                        He won in spite of Steve Phillips. My favorite Phillips move was trading Cedeno for Bell then that reliever to Houston to get Cedeno back. I guess they really did have a stellar infield for a while though.
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                        • glucklich
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                          • Jun 2004
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                          #13
                          Re: Howe about Dykstra next?

                          They should go after Valentine again...he is kind of the opposite of Dusty Baker which can be good.

                          He won in spite of Steve Phillips. My favorite Phillips move was trading Cedeno for Bell then that reliever to Houston to get Cedeno back. I guess they really did have a stellar infield for a while though.

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                          • CMH
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                            • Oct 2002
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                            #14
                            Re: Howe about Dykstra next?

                            Well, the article says that Dykstra spent spring training as a motivational speaker.

                            At first I was going to say that it shows he can speak in front of a crowd even with a speech impediment.

                            But, then after reviewing the Mets record, it appears that Dykstra's little speech went through one ear and out the other.

                            Purists might love to see this guy in a dugout, but he shouldn't be a manager. What ever happened to the long road ahead? Have the guy start out as a 1st base coach or something.

                            Look at Willie Randolph. That man has been waiting for years and even though I might be a bit biased I think it's fair to say that he is one of only a few men in baseball that deserves a shot at managing and still hasn't gotten it. But, then we get guys like Bob Brenly (who did a "great" job thanks to Schilling and Johnson) and Buck (the former Blue Jay manager...I believe that was his name) that get manager jobs with ZERO experience.

                            At least the Phillies had the brains to think when they hired Mike Schmidt. They made him start in the lower levels and poor old Mr. Schmidt (who probably thought he'd get the benefit of the doubt because of how great a player he was) quit after one season because he couldn't deal with it anymore. That speaks volumes about players becoming coaches immediately.
                            "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                            "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                            • CMH
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                              • Oct 2002
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                              #15
                              Re: Howe about Dykstra next?

                              Well, the article says that Dykstra spent spring training as a motivational speaker.

                              At first I was going to say that it shows he can speak in front of a crowd even with a speech impediment.

                              But, then after reviewing the Mets record, it appears that Dykstra's little speech went through one ear and out the other.

                              Purists might love to see this guy in a dugout, but he shouldn't be a manager. What ever happened to the long road ahead? Have the guy start out as a 1st base coach or something.

                              Look at Willie Randolph. That man has been waiting for years and even though I might be a bit biased I think it's fair to say that he is one of only a few men in baseball that deserves a shot at managing and still hasn't gotten it. But, then we get guys like Bob Brenly (who did a "great" job thanks to Schilling and Johnson) and Buck (the former Blue Jay manager...I believe that was his name) that get manager jobs with ZERO experience.

                              At least the Phillies had the brains to think when they hired Mike Schmidt. They made him start in the lower levels and poor old Mr. Schmidt (who probably thought he'd get the benefit of the doubt because of how great a player he was) quit after one season because he couldn't deal with it anymore. That speaks volumes about players becoming coaches immediately.
                              "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                              "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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