9/14 - 10/4 Game Discussion Thread

[Sportsforever]

Re: 9/14 - 9/27 Game Discussion Thread

Have the Dodgers switched to a 6-man rotation? Or are they just trying to stack their rotation for the playoffs? It seems like it should've been Greinke's turn to start tonight otherwise. The last 5 SPs have been Anderson, Wood, Frias, Kershaw, and Bolsinger.

By the way, it's absolutely insane that the NL Cy Young might come down to the very last start for Greinke, Kershaw, and Arrieta. I don't really think there's any clarity right now in that race although if I had to guess the result, it would be: 1. Arrieta 2. Greinke 3. Kershaw. Kershaw, despite leading in FIP-based WAR, is far enough behind in wins and ERA that I can't see him overcoming the traditional stat bias.

I'd vote Kershaw and not even think twice. The other guys have been amazing...no doubt, but Kershaw has been even better than ever this year despite what ERA and W/L says. He's been the best pitcher in baseball and it really isn't a debate, IMO. I do love to watch Arrietta pitch though...he's been amazing.

[Jr.]

Re: 9/14 - 9/27 Game Discussion Thread

Have the Dodgers switched to a 6-man rotation? Or are they just trying to stack their rotation for the playoffs? It seems like it should've been Greinke's turn to start tonight otherwise. The last 5 SPs have been Anderson, Wood, Frias, Kershaw, and Bolsinger.

By the way, it's absolutely insane that the NL Cy Young might come down to the very last start for Greinke, Kershaw, and Arrieta. I don't really think there's any clarity right now in that race although if I had to guess the result, it would be: 1. Arrieta 2. Greinke 3. Kershaw. Kershaw, despite leading in FIP-based WAR, is far enough behind in wins and ERA that I can't see him overcoming the traditional stat bias.

Grienke was scratched last night or the night before with a stiff back.

[Speedy]

Re: 9/14 - 9/27 Game Discussion Thread

I'd vote Kershaw and not even think twice. The other guys have been amazing...no doubt, but Kershaw has been even better than ever this year despite what ERA and W/L says. He's been the best pitcher in baseball and it really isn't a debate, IMO. I do love to watch Arrietta pitch though...he's been amazing.

I think Greinke and Arrieta have benefited slightly from a better BABIP (both below .250) but for a guy that has tons of pressure to deliver by a starving fanbase, Arrieta has been spectacular in the 2nd half.

[daflyboys]

Re: 9/14 - 9/27 Game Discussion Thread

Houston losing by 4 runs and they put Dan Straily, with a 4.77 ERA, on the mound in the 7th.

Is there a fishing cabin that was rented with a hard date?

[Speedy]

Re: 9/14 - 9/27 Game Discussion Thread

By the way, it's absolutely insane that the NL Cy Young might come down to the very last start for Greinke, Kershaw, and Arrieta. I don't really think there's any clarity right now in that race although if I had to guess the result, it would be: 1. Arrieta 2. Greinke 3. Kershaw. Kershaw, despite leading in FIP-based WAR, is far enough behind in wins and ERA that I can't see him overcoming the traditional stat bias.

I'm curious.

Who you vote for, honestly? You as a Cubs fan have seen Arrieta pitch while the peripherals for Greinke/Kershaw are tremendous and sometimes favorable when compared to Arrieta's splits.

[redsox4evur]

Re: 9/14 - 9/27 Game Discussion Thread

Houston losing by 4 runs and they put Dan Straily, with a 4.77 ERA, on the mound in the 7th.

Is there a fishing cabin that was rented with a hard date?

Nah there is a Taylor Swift concert in October that they can't reschedule...

[Majingir]

Re: 9/14 - 9/27 Game Discussion Thread

Angels up 4-3 right now. If they lose,Jays clinch playoff spot. I'm actually hoping they win. I want the playoff clinching moment to be after a Jays home win which should come tomorrow with Price pitching.

Price vs Archer, should be a good matchup. Speaking of which...
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[PhilliesFan13]

Re: 9/14 - 9/27 Game Discussion Thread

Angels up 4-3 right now. If they lose,Jays clinch playoff spot. I'm actually hoping they win. I want the playoff clinching moment to be after a Jays home win which should come tomorrow with Price pitching.

Price vs Archer, should be a good matchup. Speaking of which...
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Chris Archer is awesome.

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[Majingir]

Re: 9/14 - 9/27 Game Discussion Thread

Hudson vs Zito, last starts ever for them. A's team in early 2000s, so much potential. 4 straight years they really should've made it further than they did,but could never win game 5.

[WaitTilNextYear]

Re: 9/14 - 9/27 Game Discussion Thread

I'm curious.

Who you vote for, honestly? You as a Cubs fan have seen Arrieta pitch while the peripherals for Greinke/Kershaw are tremendous and sometimes favorable when compared to Arrieta's splits.

You know it's hard to separate the Cubs fan bias especially since I've seen Arrieta much more than the other guys, BUT I would vote for Arrieta. He's been really special and his ascent from a AAAA player just 3 years ago is striking. He's also got filthy stuff, on par with Kershaw or even better despite Kershaw's better command.

It's really hard to argue with any of the 3's stat lines. I think Arrieta's 1.88 ERA, his excellent K:BB ratio (though not on par with Kershaw), and his 20 wins (and counting) will get him a groundswell of support from the traditional crowd. He's also at 6.8 fWAR and will probably top 7 given one more start. He's been closing the gap in fWAR on Kershaw in some pretty impressive ways lately--a no hitter and a 3-hit shutout both come to mind over the past month or so.

Also, as some intangibles, I would factor in the quality of baseball being played in the NL Central this year (whereas the NL West is crap) and that Arrieta's been right in the thick of that (he's made 4 starts each against PIT and STL), I think he's got an exceptionally strong case. One last thing is that even though a lot of stats normalize this out anyway, Kershaw and Greinke both benefit from a really pitcher-friendly park at Chavez Ravine and Wrigley plays more neutral so it's interesting to think about what Greinke's ERA might be if he pitched half his games at Wrigley instead...or if either pitcher would pound the strike zone as much given less of a safety net that the home park provides.

[PhilliesFan13]

Re: 9/14 - 9/27 Game Discussion Thread

[Majingir]

Re: 9/14 - 9/27 Game Discussion Thread

Wow lol. In the most undramatic way ever,jays clinch playoff spot. Every sports site said that jays needed to win and twins+laa had to lose.

But nobody discovered till early this morning that jays technically are in already due to fact that if laa wins out,it'd mean 3 team tie with another team in their division, so jays win tiebreaker automatically in that situation.

[kehlis]

Re: 9/14 - 9/27 Game Discussion Thread

Wow lol. In the most undramatic way ever,jays clinch playoff spot. Every sports site said that jays needed to win and twins+laa had to lose.

But nobody discovered till early this morning that jays technically are in already due to fact that if laa wins out,it'd mean 3 team tie with another team in their division, so jays win tiebreaker automatically in that situation.

I must be missing something but how does the Angels winning out equate to a tie with the Astros when there's only a one game difference right now.


NM: Read the explanation which makes a lot more sense.

[Majingir]

Re: 9/14 - 9/27 Game Discussion Thread

I must be missing something but how does the Angels winning out equate to a tie with the Astros when there's only a one game difference right now.

If Jays lose out,they finish 88-74.
If LAA wins out,they finish 88-74(Rangers at best can finish 89-73)
If Astros win out,they finish 88-74(Rangers at best can finish 87-75)
If Rangers win all games except vs LAA,they can finish 89-73(and Astros at best then would be 86-74)
If Rangers/Astros split their series,and LAA wins out,Rangers can finish at best 88-74 and Astros finish 87-73)

So it's impossible for Rangers,Astros and Angels to all finish with at least 88 wins. So Jays automatically clinch.

That's best I can explain it

[Syce]

Re: 9/14 - 9/27 Game Discussion Thread

and after 1 inning its 5-0 jays, they are lighting Archer up.