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  • AC
    Win the East
    • Sep 2010
    • 14951
    #1756
    Re: 2015 MLB Hot Stove thread

    That would be so so gross for the Cubs
    "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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      • Jr.
        Playgirl Coverboy
        • Feb 2003
        • 19171
        #1757
        Re: 2015 MLB Hot Stove thread

        Originally posted by AC
        That would be so so gross for the Cubs
        Good gross, or bad gross? I don't know much about Inciarte.
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          • AC
            Win the East
            • Sep 2010
            • 14951
            #1758
            Re: 2015 MLB Hot Stove thread

            Originally posted by Jr.
            Good gross, or bad gross? I don't know much about Inciarte.
            Bad gross. Inciarte's better than Miller, sure, but he's probably not a big upgrade on Soler this year, has less control I think, and has a hell of a lot less potential, and less market value. Also, defense declines earlier, which mitigates some of his value.

            He's like a Kevin Pillar type.
            "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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              • WaitTilNextYear
                Go Cubs Go
                • Mar 2013
                • 16830
                #1759
                Re: 2015 MLB Hot Stove thread

                Originally posted by AC
                That would be so so gross for the Cubs
                It wouldn't be straight up. Seems to make sense unless the Cubs can get a young #3 starter for Soler. Inciarte + Teheran for Soler+ perhaps.
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                  • ShowTyme15
                    LADetermined
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 11853
                    #1760
                    Re: 2015 MLB Hot Stove thread

                    Originally posted by AC
                    Bad gross. Inciarte's better than Miller, sure, but he's probably not a big upgrade on Soler this year, has less control I think, and has a hell of a lot less potential, and less market value. Also, defense declines earlier, which mitigates some of his value.

                    He's like a Kevin Pillar type.
                    Inciarte has 5 more years of team control I think.........

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                      • Sportsforever
                        NL MVP
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 20368
                        #1761
                        Re: 2015 MLB Hot Stove thread

                        Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
                        It wouldn't be straight up. Seems to make sense unless the Cubs can get a young #3 starter for Soler. Inciarte + Teheran for Soler+ perhaps.
                        Uhm...no. I don't know what will happen, but we would be foolish to trade Tehran/Inciarte for Soler. I actually read today that Atlanta has asked for Baez and Soler for Inciarte plus a minor leaguer.
                        "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

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                          • WaitTilNextYear
                            Go Cubs Go
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 16830
                            #1762
                            Re: 2015 MLB Hot Stove thread

                            Originally posted by Sportsforever
                            Uhm...no. I don't know what will happen, but we would be foolish to trade Tehran/Inciarte for Soler. I actually read today that Atlanta has asked for Baez and Soler for Inciarte plus a minor leaguer.
                            When someone writes it as Soler+ that means Soler and then some more. FYI. Not sure if it came across that way or if you're just objecting to dealing both Inciarte and Teheran together.
                            Last edited by WaitTilNextYear; 12-14-2015, 03:32 AM.
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                              • TheMatrix31
                                RF
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 52923
                                #1763
                                Re: 2015 MLB Hot Stove thread

                                Hoping the Angels get Alex Gordon instead of Cespedes or Upton. I like all 3 players but Cespedes strikes me as a player who "played up" a bit in a contract year Upton is just too damn inconsistent and I had enough of watching that **** in 2013 and 2014.

                                Gordon's gonna be 32 before the season starts but the Angels' time is now.
                                Last edited by TheMatrix31; 12-14-2015, 03:36 AM.

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                                  • AC
                                    Win the East
                                    • Sep 2010
                                    • 14951
                                    #1764
                                    Re: 2015 MLB Hot Stove thread

                                    Originally posted by ShowTyme15
                                    Inciarte has 5 more years of team control I think.........
                                    Was pretty sure it was like 4. Don't know the service time rules but Inciarte's been through roughly 2 full seasons while Soler hasn't even been through one.
                                    "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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                                      • ShowTyme15
                                        LADetermined
                                        • Jan 2004
                                        • 11853
                                        #1765
                                        Re: 2015 MLB Hot Stove thread

                                        Todd Frazier talks are heating up. Both the White Sox and Indians are heavily involved according to Jon Heyman.

                                        The Cubs signed Stephen Fife and Jean Machi over the weekend as well.

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                                          • Sportsforever
                                            NL MVP
                                            • Mar 2005
                                            • 20368
                                            #1766
                                            Re: 2015 MLB Hot Stove thread

                                            Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
                                            When someone writes it as Soler+ that means Soler and then some more. FYI. Not sure if it came across that way or if you're just objecting to dealing both Inciarte and Teheran together.
                                            Ah...my bad, I didn't see the + after Soler in your post, I thought you were saying Soler straight up for Teheran and Inciarte.
                                            "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

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                                              • Jr.
                                                Playgirl Coverboy
                                                • Feb 2003
                                                • 19171
                                                #1767
                                                Re: 2015 MLB Hot Stove thread

                                                Originally posted by AC
                                                Was pretty sure it was like 4. Don't know the service time rules but Inciarte's been through roughly 2 full seasons while Soler hasn't even been through one.
                                                Soler was signed a 9 year contract, so service time rules don't really apply to him.
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                                                  • redsrule
                                                    All Star
                                                    • Apr 2010
                                                    • 9396
                                                    #1768
                                                    Re: 2015 MLB Hot Stove thread

                                                    Originally posted by ShowTyme15
                                                    Todd Frazier talks are heating up. Both the White Sox and Indians are heavily involved according to Jon Heyman.

                                                    The Cubs signed Stephen Fife and Jean Machi over the weekend as well.
                                                    Frazier for Tim Anderson + would be fantastic for the Reds.
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                                                      • Money99
                                                        Hall Of Fame
                                                        • Sep 2002
                                                        • 12695
                                                        #1769
                                                        Re: 2015 MLB Hot Stove thread

                                                        Originally posted by CameRoN0407
                                                        The Giles trade is a lot bigger than we thought

                                                        PHI Gets: Vincent Velasquez; Mark Appell; Thomas Eshelman; Harold Arauz; Brett Oberholtzer

                                                        HOU Gets: Ken Giles; Jonathan Arauz

                                                        Nice haul Philly.

                                                        FUN NOTE: 2 players with the last name Arauz are flipping teams
                                                        Anyone able to provide insight on the prospects going Philly's way?

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                                                          • doyce7
                                                            Pro
                                                            • Nov 2013
                                                            • 631
                                                            #1770
                                                            Re: 2015 MLB Hot Stove thread

                                                            Originally posted by Money99
                                                            Anyone able to provide insight on the prospects going Philly's way?
                                                            Velasquez pitched pretty well for the astros this past season. Appel has good stuff but for some reason has never been very good. His minor league numbers are terrible. Eshelman has below average-to average stuff but has great control. Oberholtzer is an OK major league pitcher, number 5 starter. Don't know much about the other guy.
                                                            http://www.operationsports.com/forum...fifa-14-a.html

                                                            http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFm1JY_TUaCYBXQkcr6EpMg

                                                            http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2045908582

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