Official End of the Year Awards Thread

[SPTO]

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AL MVP: Gary Sheffield
NL MVP: Barry Bonds

AL Cy Young: Johan Santana (Peter Gammons says that his stuff this year is very comparable to Frank Tanana before he blew out his arm. I only remember the tail end of his career can anyone confirm/deny?)
NL Cy Young: Roger Clemens

NL ROTY: Jason Bay (hey i'm biased he's a canuck!)
AL ROTY: bobby crosby

AL MOTY: Buck Showalter
NL MOTY: Bobby Cox

AL Comeback player of the year: Jon Lieber
NL Comeback player of the year: Trevor Hoffman

[SPTO]

Re: Official End of the Year Awards Thread

AL MVP: Gary Sheffield
NL MVP: Barry Bonds

AL Cy Young: Johan Santana (Peter Gammons says that his stuff this year is very comparable to Frank Tanana before he blew out his arm. I only remember the tail end of his career can anyone confirm/deny?)
NL Cy Young: Roger Clemens

NL ROTY: Jason Bay (hey i'm biased he's a canuck!)
AL ROTY: bobby crosby

AL MOTY: Buck Showalter
NL MOTY: Bobby Cox

AL Comeback player of the year: Jon Lieber
NL Comeback player of the year: Trevor Hoffman

[bergie56]

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you guys are correct when saying lew ford is not eligible for the AL ROY. Its too bad to, because I think he would have won it/if not made it a fun race to watch. My picks are:


NL MVP: Bonds
NL CY: Clemens
NL Roy: Khalil Greene (I am a sucker for defense)
NL Comeback: Jaret Wright
NL Manager: Bobby Cox (However I think Phil Garner deserves some credit for what he has done with the Astros albeit in only 1/2 a season which is why Cox deserves it)

AL MVP: Ramirez
AL Cy: Johan
AL Roy: Crosby
AL Comeback: Jon Lieber
AL Manager: Buck Schowalter (sp?) ( I think Gardy deserves a little more credit than he gets but is just not as deserving as Buck)

[bergie56]

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you guys are correct when saying lew ford is not eligible for the AL ROY. Its too bad to, because I think he would have won it/if not made it a fun race to watch. My picks are:


NL MVP: Bonds
NL CY: Clemens
NL Roy: Khalil Greene (I am a sucker for defense)
NL Comeback: Jaret Wright
NL Manager: Bobby Cox (However I think Phil Garner deserves some credit for what he has done with the Astros albeit in only 1/2 a season which is why Cox deserves it)

AL MVP: Ramirez
AL Cy: Johan
AL Roy: Crosby
AL Comeback: Jon Lieber
AL Manager: Buck Schowalter (sp?) ( I think Gardy deserves a little more credit than he gets but is just not as deserving as Buck)

[rsox]

Re: Official End of the Year Awards Thread

MVP
AL
Manny Ramirez
NL
Barry Bonds

Cy Young
AL
Johan Santana
NL
Roger Clemens

Rookie of the Year
AL
Bobby Crosby
NL
Khalil Greene

Manager of the Year
AL
Buck Showalter
NL
Phil Garner

Comeback Player of the Year
AL
Jon Lieber
NL
Trevor Hoffman

Most Surprising Team
AL
Texas
NL
San Diego

Most Disappointing Team
AL
Oakland
NL
Chicago

[rsox]

Re: Official End of the Year Awards Thread

MVP
AL
Manny Ramirez
NL
Barry Bonds

Cy Young
AL
Johan Santana
NL
Roger Clemens

Rookie of the Year
AL
Bobby Crosby
NL
Khalil Greene

Manager of the Year
AL
Buck Showalter
NL
Phil Garner

Comeback Player of the Year
AL
Jon Lieber
NL
Trevor Hoffman

Most Surprising Team
AL
Texas
NL
San Diego

Most Disappointing Team
AL
Oakland
NL
Chicago

[SportsTop]

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However, I do find it amusing that after having argued with you against RJ for the CY YOUNG in a different long-winded thread you've come around in the end. Getting to 16 wins was crucial for RJ, and I think he will probably win the title, especially with Clemens not going today, but I have to wonder if a different player, a player not named Randy Johnson, gets consideration even with such a mediocre win total-- a player like Ben Sheets for instance, but I digress... he's Randy Johnson and he's 41 and he threw a perfect game and he's got awesome numbers, and two more wins than loses. No starting pitcher has ever won the CY YOUNG with such a comparably low win total, but there's a first time for everything.

Just so I don't look like a flip-flopper here's a quote from the discussion you referenced:

Without an ERA in the low 2.00's or 20 wins I just don't see how RJ can win it. His only outside shot is to squeeze out three more wins (he'd end up 16-13 and he has about 4 starts left) and strike out 300.

He got the 16 wins I made reference to and struck out 290. I remembered the comments I made and that's the reason I finally ended up going with RJ for the Cy Young.

On another note......

Eligibility requirements were set forth in 1971 and a rookie was formally defined as a player with less than one-hundred thirty at-bats, a pitcher with less than fifty innings pitched, or anyone with less than forty-five days on any Major League roster.

After reading Ford's Bio it looks as if he was on the Twins ML roster for more than 45 days last year (although he did get less than 130 AB's). He had an injury last year that caused him to miss a significant amount of time. Too bad for him. I guess that means Crosby wins the award by default. A ROTY winner with a .239 Avg. Ugh!

[SportsTop]

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However, I do find it amusing that after having argued with you against RJ for the CY YOUNG in a different long-winded thread you've come around in the end. Getting to 16 wins was crucial for RJ, and I think he will probably win the title, especially with Clemens not going today, but I have to wonder if a different player, a player not named Randy Johnson, gets consideration even with such a mediocre win total-- a player like Ben Sheets for instance, but I digress... he's Randy Johnson and he's 41 and he threw a perfect game and he's got awesome numbers, and two more wins than loses. No starting pitcher has ever won the CY YOUNG with such a comparably low win total, but there's a first time for everything.

Just so I don't look like a flip-flopper here's a quote from the discussion you referenced:

Without an ERA in the low 2.00's or 20 wins I just don't see how RJ can win it. His only outside shot is to squeeze out three more wins (he'd end up 16-13 and he has about 4 starts left) and strike out 300.

He got the 16 wins I made reference to and struck out 290. I remembered the comments I made and that's the reason I finally ended up going with RJ for the Cy Young.

On another note......

Eligibility requirements were set forth in 1971 and a rookie was formally defined as a player with less than one-hundred thirty at-bats, a pitcher with less than fifty innings pitched, or anyone with less than forty-five days on any Major League roster.

After reading Ford's Bio it looks as if he was on the Twins ML roster for more than 45 days last year (although he did get less than 130 AB's). He had an injury last year that caused him to miss a significant amount of time. Too bad for him. I guess that means Crosby wins the award by default. A ROTY winner with a .239 Avg. Ugh!

[Dav]

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National League

MVP - Bonds
Cy Young - Clemens
ROY - Jason Bay
Manager - Bobby Cox

American League

MVP - VLAD!
Cy Young - Santana
ROY - Crosby
Manager - Showalter

I think the winners are pretty clear-cut this year except for NL Cy Young but I chose Clemens because he was awesome in September leading the 'Stros to the WC.

[Dav]

Re: Official End of the Year Awards Thread

National League

MVP - Bonds
Cy Young - Clemens
ROY - Jason Bay
Manager - Bobby Cox

American League

MVP - VLAD!
Cy Young - Santana
ROY - Crosby
Manager - Showalter

I think the winners are pretty clear-cut this year except for NL Cy Young but I chose Clemens because he was awesome in September leading the 'Stros to the WC.

[SportsTop]

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I think the winners are pretty clear-cut this year except for NL Cy Young but I chose Clemens because he was awesome in September leading the 'Stros to the WC.

I agree that the NL Cy Young is the hardest of the awards to come up with an outright winner, but the NL ROTY is running a close second. Even if Bay beats Khalil Greene it will only be by the slimest of margins. In fact, it wouldn't shock me if that were the closest race of all the awards.

[SportsTop]

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I think the winners are pretty clear-cut this year except for NL Cy Young but I chose Clemens because he was awesome in September leading the 'Stros to the WC.

I agree that the NL Cy Young is the hardest of the awards to come up with an outright winner, but the NL ROTY is running a close second. Even if Bay beats Khalil Greene it will only be by the slimest of margins. In fact, it wouldn't shock me if that were the closest race of all the awards.