What moves do the M's need to make?

[longball]

Spending my first year down here in Southern California, I didn't get to see much of my homestate team, and their terrible season. But I have a few ideas that could help the squad for the next year. First of all we need to soildify 3B with, not a "superstar" team changer like they tried with Cirillo, but a role player. Speizio didn't work so lets bring someone else in. I like Aramis Ramirez he could hit in the middle of the order and produce, plus he plays a solid hot corner, something you couldn't say for Speiz. I like him cause Lowell and Beltre will comand all the money in the market and Ramirez will sneak in, plus his numbers are comparable.

I hear a lot of people, (mostly my buddies in Seattle), saying we need Beltran. It's not gonna happen, he'll command too much cash and wont want to hit in Safeco. I think an outfield of Winn, Reed, and Ichiro (left to right) would sufice. To hit in Safeco it doesn't take raw power (talk to Mike Cameron) you need guys who hit the ball on a line and into gaps. These three guys do that very well and could control the top and bottom of the order. Plus they are solid defensivly, which is what we need. Ibanez in left was a joke.

Move Ibanez to first, DH Jacobson (the lumberjack baseball player), and split time behind the dish with Olivo and Wilson. Yes BRING BACK Dan Wilson, the young pitchers need him.

Line-up:
Ichiro RF
Winn CF
Boone 2b
Ibanez 1b
Rameriez 3b
Jacobson dh
Olivo C
Lopez SS
Reed CF

With the pitching lets hope Pinerio comes back and if Meche can put his 2003 first half with his 2004 second half he could be scary. I think the game he shut down the A's put them out of the playoffs. Maderiesch looks good and if Moyer comes back: Super. All i can think though is no Ron Villone in the rotation, hes garbage.

Well if you read this whole thing thats awesome, what do you guys think the Mariners need to do get back to the top?

[Stoud]

Re: What moves do the M's need to make?

Glad you asked.

C - Miguel Olivo
1B - Raul Ibanez
2B - Bret Boone
SS - Kazuo Matsui
3B - Scott Spiezio
RF - Ken Griffey Jr.
CF - Ichiro Suzuki
LF - Jeremy Reed
DH - Bucky Jacobsen

SP - Joel Piniero
SP - Bobby Madritsch
SP - Livan Hernandez
SP - Darrell May
SP - Gil Meche

RP - Luis Ayala
RP - Shigetoshi Hasegawa
RP - Julio Mateo
RP - J.J. Putz
RP - Matt Thornton
RP - Scott Atchison
CL - Eddie Guardado



Trade Ron Villone and Cha Seung Baek to Cincinatti for Ken Griffey Jr.
Trade Randy Winn, Jamie Moyer, and Masao Kida to Washington for Livan Hernandez and Luis Ayala
Trade Ryan Franklin to Mets for Kazuo Matsui
Trade Greg Dobbs, and Jamal Strong, to be named to Kansas City for Darrell May

Or at least....that's my Dream....@_@

either way they need to trade Randy Winn now that they have Jeremy Reed. They need Pitching, or to solve the pitching problems their current pitchers have. I still say trade Moyer and Franklin, pick up a Shortstop and a Starter, I'll be happy.

[Stoud]

Re: What moves do the M's need to make?

Glad you asked.

C - Miguel Olivo
1B - Raul Ibanez
2B - Bret Boone
SS - Kazuo Matsui
3B - Scott Spiezio
RF - Ken Griffey Jr.
CF - Ichiro Suzuki
LF - Jeremy Reed
DH - Bucky Jacobsen

SP - Joel Piniero
SP - Bobby Madritsch
SP - Livan Hernandez
SP - Darrell May
SP - Gil Meche

RP - Luis Ayala
RP - Shigetoshi Hasegawa
RP - Julio Mateo
RP - J.J. Putz
RP - Matt Thornton
RP - Scott Atchison
CL - Eddie Guardado



Trade Ron Villone and Cha Seung Baek to Cincinatti for Ken Griffey Jr.
Trade Randy Winn, Jamie Moyer, and Masao Kida to Washington for Livan Hernandez and Luis Ayala
Trade Ryan Franklin to Mets for Kazuo Matsui
Trade Greg Dobbs, and Jamal Strong, to be named to Kansas City for Darrell May

Or at least....that's my Dream....@_@

either way they need to trade Randy Winn now that they have Jeremy Reed. They need Pitching, or to solve the pitching problems their current pitchers have. I still say trade Moyer and Franklin, pick up a Shortstop and a Starter, I'll be happy.

[dieselboy]

Re: What moves do the M's need to make?

Trade Bret Boone while he still has some value. The guy will be 36 next season, and I don't expect the Mariners to contend for the AL West with the Angels, Rangers, and A's all looking to be much better than the M's next year. I don't care who we trade him to. The Yankees? The Red Sox? It doesn't matter.

Then in his void, add a serviceable free-agent, who plays good defense. Maybe some older veteran who no one is interested in, but we can bring in, give him some playing time, and then maybe trade him at the deadline. Kind of like what the Pirates did with Lofton and Sanders.

Then we need to make a move to acquire a big bat. Someone who can hit and will still have good years left when he gets to Seattle. I wouldn't get too excited for Delgado, but that definately wouldn't hurt. I'm not sure who the potential free-agents are.

If Guardado wants out, lets see what we can get for him. Hopefully Soriano will be 100% for next season and we can possibly move him to closer. I'm not really sure what to do with Franklin, Shigi, Piniero, and Meche's poor seasons. Maybe its just a fluke..

Well, thats all I have right now...Maybe think of something else later.

[dieselboy]

Re: What moves do the M's need to make?

Trade Bret Boone while he still has some value. The guy will be 36 next season, and I don't expect the Mariners to contend for the AL West with the Angels, Rangers, and A's all looking to be much better than the M's next year. I don't care who we trade him to. The Yankees? The Red Sox? It doesn't matter.

Then in his void, add a serviceable free-agent, who plays good defense. Maybe some older veteran who no one is interested in, but we can bring in, give him some playing time, and then maybe trade him at the deadline. Kind of like what the Pirates did with Lofton and Sanders.

Then we need to make a move to acquire a big bat. Someone who can hit and will still have good years left when he gets to Seattle. I wouldn't get too excited for Delgado, but that definately wouldn't hurt. I'm not sure who the potential free-agents are.

If Guardado wants out, lets see what we can get for him. Hopefully Soriano will be 100% for next season and we can possibly move him to closer. I'm not really sure what to do with Franklin, Shigi, Piniero, and Meche's poor seasons. Maybe its just a fluke..

Well, thats all I have right now...Maybe think of something else later.

[rsox]

Re: What moves do the M's need to make?

Unfortunately, i think money will be an issue for the Mariners, so i would not expect to see any marquee names added this winter. I think we will see some of the young guys from this season back in the lineup next season, so expect to see Bucky Jacobson (DH), Justin Leone (3B), Jose Lopez (SS) and Jeremy Reed (CF) given every oppertunity to win starting jobs in spring training, i expect the Mariners will sign some low-level veterans to compete with the kids.

[rsox]

Re: What moves do the M's need to make?

Unfortunately, i think money will be an issue for the Mariners, so i would not expect to see any marquee names added this winter. I think we will see some of the young guys from this season back in the lineup next season, so expect to see Bucky Jacobson (DH), Justin Leone (3B), Jose Lopez (SS) and Jeremy Reed (CF) given every oppertunity to win starting jobs in spring training, i expect the Mariners will sign some low-level veterans to compete with the kids.

[Chewingthehardfacts]

Re: What moves do the M's need to make?

I think trade away Moyer and get some pitching prospects for him. The Mariners main weakness is starting pitching.

[Chewingthehardfacts]

Re: What moves do the M's need to make?

I think trade away Moyer and get some pitching prospects for him. The Mariners main weakness is starting pitching.

[skitch]

Re: What moves do the M's need to make?

Yeah, but I'd be very surprised if anybody would be willing to give up good prospects for a 40+ year old pitcher who's career is on the decline.

[skitch]

Re: What moves do the M's need to make?

Yeah, but I'd be very surprised if anybody would be willing to give up good prospects for a 40+ year old pitcher who's career is on the decline.

[VanCitySportsGuy]

Re: What moves do the M's need to make?

Trade Bret Boone while he still has some value. The guy will be 36 next season, and I don't expect the Mariners to contend for the AL West with the Angels, Rangers, and A's all looking to be much better than the M's next year. I don't care who we trade him to. The Yankees? The Red Sox? It doesn't matter.

Then in his void, add a serviceable free-agent, who plays good defense. Maybe some older veteran who no one is interested in, but we can bring in, give him some playing time, and then maybe trade him at the deadline. Kind of like what the Pirates did with Lofton and Sanders.

Then we need to make a move to acquire a big bat. Someone who can hit and will still have good years left when he gets to Seattle. I wouldn't get too excited for Delgado, but that definately wouldn't hurt. I'm not sure who the potential free-agents are.

If Guardado wants out, lets see what we can get for him. Hopefully Soriano will be 100% for next season and we can possibly move him to closer. I'm not really sure what to do with Franklin, Shigi, Piniero, and Meche's poor seasons. Maybe its just a fluke..

Well, thats all I have right now...Maybe think of something else later.

Nobody is going to touch Boone unless the M's pick up most of his contract. If I was a GM I wouldn't give up anything more than a C+ prospect for Boone and that's assuming the M's would pick up a large chunk of his salary. Boone should retire soon.

[VanCitySportsGuy]

Re: What moves do the M's need to make?

Trade Bret Boone while he still has some value. The guy will be 36 next season, and I don't expect the Mariners to contend for the AL West with the Angels, Rangers, and A's all looking to be much better than the M's next year. I don't care who we trade him to. The Yankees? The Red Sox? It doesn't matter.

Then in his void, add a serviceable free-agent, who plays good defense. Maybe some older veteran who no one is interested in, but we can bring in, give him some playing time, and then maybe trade him at the deadline. Kind of like what the Pirates did with Lofton and Sanders.

Then we need to make a move to acquire a big bat. Someone who can hit and will still have good years left when he gets to Seattle. I wouldn't get too excited for Delgado, but that definately wouldn't hurt. I'm not sure who the potential free-agents are.

If Guardado wants out, lets see what we can get for him. Hopefully Soriano will be 100% for next season and we can possibly move him to closer. I'm not really sure what to do with Franklin, Shigi, Piniero, and Meche's poor seasons. Maybe its just a fluke..

Well, thats all I have right now...Maybe think of something else later.

Nobody is going to touch Boone unless the M's pick up most of his contract. If I was a GM I wouldn't give up anything more than a C+ prospect for Boone and that's assuming the M's would pick up a large chunk of his salary. Boone should retire soon.