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  • devilsjaw
    MVP
    • Mar 2003
    • 3572

    #31
    Re: Best Active Closer

    Lidge looked pretty dominant in the playoffs, and Gange, is well, Gange...

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    • BatsareBugs
      LVP
      • Feb 2003
      • 12553

      #32
      Re: Best Active Closer

      Originally posted by devilsjaw
      Lidge looked pretty dominant in the playoffs, and Gange, is well, Gange...
      I remember seeing Lidge blow one in the playoffs, as much as he has dominating stuff, he's blown a lot of saves for a closer in what... half a season being a closer?

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      • BatsareBugs
        LVP
        • Feb 2003
        • 12553

        #33
        Re: Best Active Closer

        Originally posted by devilsjaw
        Lidge looked pretty dominant in the playoffs, and Gange, is well, Gange...
        I remember seeing Lidge blow one in the playoffs, as much as he has dominating stuff, he's blown a lot of saves for a closer in what... half a season being a closer?

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        • elicoleman
          Im The Baby/Gotta Love Me
          • Sep 2002
          • 34655

          #34
          Re: Best Active Closer

          Rivera
          Gagne
          Lidge
          Originally posted by CardsFan27
          This is the 3rd time John Calipari has been to his first Final Four!
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          • elicoleman
            Im The Baby/Gotta Love Me
            • Sep 2002
            • 34655

            #35
            Re: Best Active Closer

            Rivera
            Gagne
            Lidge
            Originally posted by CardsFan27
            This is the 3rd time John Calipari has been to his first Final Four!
            What I'm Currently Listening To

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            • MSRoble33
              MVP
              • Aug 2002
              • 1840

              #36
              Re: Best Active Closer

              I voted Gagne, the guy is a freakin' machine! And his fastball is fast and his changeup is just SICK when it's mixed in properly.

              I think he's just the best out there, you can probably make arguments for Rivera based on stats, but to see Gagne trotting out from the pen just basically has the other team knowing the game's over.

              I'm a little biased towards Hoffman myself, I think he's a hell of a great closer, but he's not as invincible as Rivera and Gagne can be.

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              • MSRoble33
                MVP
                • Aug 2002
                • 1840

                #37
                Re: Best Active Closer

                I voted Gagne, the guy is a freakin' machine! And his fastball is fast and his changeup is just SICK when it's mixed in properly.

                I think he's just the best out there, you can probably make arguments for Rivera based on stats, but to see Gagne trotting out from the pen just basically has the other team knowing the game's over.

                I'm a little biased towards Hoffman myself, I think he's a hell of a great closer, but he's not as invincible as Rivera and Gagne can be.

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                • SportsTop
                  The Few. The Proud.
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 6716

                  #38
                  Re: Best Active Closer

                  Originally posted by dce1228
                  Rivera and Gagne... in that order.

                  However, your omission of guys like Joe Nathan, Francisco Cordero and Franky Rodriguez shows you don't know a heck of a lot about baseball.
                  Your inclusion of FRod shows that you don't know much about baseball. He is primarily a set-up man and has not been awarded the Angels closer role yet.

                  Besides, that list should have no more than two people on it:

                  Eric Gagne
                  Mariano Rivera

                  In that order.
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                  • SportsTop
                    The Few. The Proud.
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 6716

                    #39
                    Re: Best Active Closer

                    Originally posted by dce1228
                    Rivera and Gagne... in that order.

                    However, your omission of guys like Joe Nathan, Francisco Cordero and Franky Rodriguez shows you don't know a heck of a lot about baseball.
                    Your inclusion of FRod shows that you don't know much about baseball. He is primarily a set-up man and has not been awarded the Angels closer role yet.

                    Besides, that list should have no more than two people on it:

                    Eric Gagne
                    Mariano Rivera

                    In that order.
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                    • dce1228
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 1016

                      #40
                      Re: Best Active Closer

                      Originally posted by Squint
                      Your inclusion of FRod shows that you don't know much about baseball. He is primarily a set-up man and has not been awarded the Angels closer role yet.

                      Besides, that list should have no more than two people on it:

                      Eric Gagne
                      Mariano Rivera

                      In that order.
                      Clever.

                      The omission of Nathan and Frank Cordero in this poll is unforgivable. Regarding Franky, its well known in baseball circles that Franky is closer ready, and 12 last season is plenty enough for me for him to be listed here. I'd take him over half the guys on that list... 123 Ks in 84 innings speaks well enough.

                      However, if you want me to be nicer to the literacy challenged kid who created the poll I guess I could work on it... but you could always quit beating around the bush.

                      I do agree, though... the only two to really choose between are Rivera and Gagne... and I'll take Rivera.

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                      • dce1228
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 1016

                        #41
                        Re: Best Active Closer

                        Originally posted by Squint
                        Your inclusion of FRod shows that you don't know much about baseball. He is primarily a set-up man and has not been awarded the Angels closer role yet.

                        Besides, that list should have no more than two people on it:

                        Eric Gagne
                        Mariano Rivera

                        In that order.
                        Clever.

                        The omission of Nathan and Frank Cordero in this poll is unforgivable. Regarding Franky, its well known in baseball circles that Franky is closer ready, and 12 last season is plenty enough for me for him to be listed here. I'd take him over half the guys on that list... 123 Ks in 84 innings speaks well enough.

                        However, if you want me to be nicer to the literacy challenged kid who created the poll I guess I could work on it... but you could always quit beating around the bush.

                        I do agree, though... the only two to really choose between are Rivera and Gagne... and I'll take Rivera.

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                        • SportsTop
                          The Few. The Proud.
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 6716

                          #42
                          Re: Best Active Closer

                          Originally posted by dce1228
                          Clever.

                          The omission of Nathan and Frank Cordero in this poll is unforgivable. Regarding Franky, its well known in baseball circles that Franky is closer ready, and 12 last season is plenty enough for me for him to be listed here. I'd take him over half the guys on that list... 123 Ks in 84 innings speaks well enough.

                          However, if you want me to be nicer to the literacy challenged kid who created the poll I guess I could work on it... but you could always quit beating around the bush.

                          I do agree, though... the only two to really choose between are Rivera and Gagne... and I'll take Rivera.
                          I agree that FRod is closer ready, he just isn't one yet. I do, however, think he will be the Angels closer next year.

                          If we want to get technical then every teams closer should've been listed on the poll.

                          This was Cordero and Nathan's first full year as closers, so they still have to prove that they can perform at the level they showed this year for a few more years before we can begin to mention them with the likes of Rivera, Gagne, Smoltz, and Hoffman.
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                          • SportsTop
                            The Few. The Proud.
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 6716

                            #43
                            Re: Best Active Closer

                            Originally posted by dce1228
                            Clever.

                            The omission of Nathan and Frank Cordero in this poll is unforgivable. Regarding Franky, its well known in baseball circles that Franky is closer ready, and 12 last season is plenty enough for me for him to be listed here. I'd take him over half the guys on that list... 123 Ks in 84 innings speaks well enough.

                            However, if you want me to be nicer to the literacy challenged kid who created the poll I guess I could work on it... but you could always quit beating around the bush.

                            I do agree, though... the only two to really choose between are Rivera and Gagne... and I'll take Rivera.
                            I agree that FRod is closer ready, he just isn't one yet. I do, however, think he will be the Angels closer next year.

                            If we want to get technical then every teams closer should've been listed on the poll.

                            This was Cordero and Nathan's first full year as closers, so they still have to prove that they can perform at the level they showed this year for a few more years before we can begin to mention them with the likes of Rivera, Gagne, Smoltz, and Hoffman.
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                            • stAte
                              Pro
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 591

                              #44
                              Re: Best Active Closer

                              It's tough between Gagne and Rivera but i'll take Gagne
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                              • stAte
                                Pro
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 591

                                #45
                                Re: Best Active Closer

                                It's tough between Gagne and Rivera but i'll take Gagne
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