WOW R.I.P Roy (DOC) Halladay

[RoyalBoyle78]

This is very sad man.. R.I P

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/21331438/roy-halladay-40-dies-plane-crash-gulf-mexico

[cable guy]

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I just heard. What awful news

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[djep]

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One of the fiercest competitors on the mound. As a Yankee fan I had nothing but respect for the guy. I hope he gets into the HoF posthumously.

[WaddupCouzin]

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Wow, I just saw this on BR, sad.

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[LambertandHam]

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40 is way too young man, RIP Doc.

[Majingir]

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Can't believe this! One of my fave players ever in any sport. Was the reason I even played pitcher over the years. People talk about their heroes in sports, for me it was him. Just all around great guy, no ego, nothing but class. One of most iconic players in this city's history.

Most devastating celebrity death ever to me. Have been planning for years to go to his ceremony for the Jays level of excellence, whenever they planned on doing it. Thought it might be in a year or two, would've been so much fun getting to be there for that and see him return and be honoured.

Still can't believe it.

[19]

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2011 NLDS, Game 5.

Halladay v. Carpenter

One of the best games I've ever watched. RIP Doc.

[HypoLuxa13]

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One of the fiercest competitors on the mound. As a Yankee fan I had nothing but respect for the guy. I hope he gets into the HoF posthumously.

A Cy Young Award winner in both leagues. A .659 career winning percentage. A no-hit master piece in the playoffs. 8 time All Star. Yep, he should be a no-doubt Hall of Famer.

[Majingir]

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A Cy Young Award winner in both leagues. A .659 career winning percentage. A no-hit master piece in the playoffs. 8 time All Star. Yep, he should be a no-doubt Hall of Famer.

Hopefully he gets the respect he deserves. Sad to say, but something like this probably does help his claim. Underrated big time too because of where he played and how most of those teams were just him and abunch of average guys.


Only 40 years old, and really wanted to make a difference, and past few years finally got to just settle down and be with his family. I remember a few years back he said he didn't want a job in baseball like those pointless advisor things, if he got back in he'd want to make a real difference. Really could've seen him as a pitching coach in the bigs one day.

[SPTO]

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2011 NLDS, Game 5.

Halladay v. Carpenter

One of the best games I've ever watched. RIP Doc.

For the Millenials that game was pretty much akin to the Smoltz/Morris matchup in game 7 of the '91 World Series.

Even without his passing I think Doc is a HOFer especially with what has transpired in the game today. He's one of the very last (arguably you could say he's the 2nd last) of the era of starting pitchers who would be expected to give you a complete game and throw well over 100 pitches. (Verlander is the last of that generation IMO) The game has changed so much and his numbers look a lot better now in hindsight with the fact that he pitched in the most dominant division in baseball with sadly, the most jacked up sluggers around as his window of greatness from '03-10 was peak Steroid Era across the board. There are the intangibles as well from going all the way down to single-A and completely retooling his mechanics to being such a tireless worker even on his off days.

Halladay was a singular individual as he often ignored teammates to work on his craft but it wasn't done in a mean way. He just cared that much about being the best he can be. This was a guy who on his first day with the Phillies was eating breakfast at 5:45 in the morning soaking wet with sweat after working out. We hear about players who have these great workout regimens but very few people could handle the Roy Halladay Program. Beyond that, he was a great father and a philanthropist as well. He had it in his contract where $100,000 dollars of his yearly salary would go towards having sick kids sit in a box and watch Jays game. That box is now the Jays Care Community box.

The tragedy of it all, is that in his post baseball life there were only 2 things that mattered to him, family and flying. It's gut wrenching to see his Twitter timeline is literally just family and flying stuff. At the very least we can say he died doing what he loved so dearly. The loss of Roy Halladay is going to be a huge gaping hole for his wife, kids, family and friends but from what everything i've heard today they will have amazing memories that will last a lifetime.

[daflyboys]

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^^ Good reaction. After hearing Hamels address the press earlier today, I didn't get the impression that Halladay ignored his teammates as much as he was not much of a talker and led by example. Of course, while memorializing him, no one is going to say that he primarily focused on himself.

There was also some discussion about how much he got onto himself about giving up that 1 run in the Cardinals playoff game. He took that much responsibility on his shoulders for his team.

[Sportsforever]

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I saw that he doesn't go on the ballot until 2019, but IMO he should be on there next month and go in with next year's class. Make it happen, baseball.

[Majingir]

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Still in processing phase of this all. Can watch all these tributes and stuff on TV, but every now and then I still forget all this is happening because he's no longer with us.

He legitimately was one of the 'good guys' in sports. Made peace with his baseball career and was so happy living out the next part of his life doing what he loves, and getting to spend all the time he wanted with his family. Just go on his twitter. He was never a guy who wants to be infront of a camera, but just seeing how many pics he was posting online about flying, this really was something he loved so much(even moreso because I believe his dad was a pilot).


Oddly enough, my fave memory of his might actually be when he was with the Phillies. In his return to Toronto, such a huge standing ovation for him, and then he had to start against them and fans were still cheering him so much throughout the game. Fans actually cheering the opposition more than their own team out of respect. And then the Halladay-Bautista matchup(past vs present), just an awesome moment to watch too. And to top it off, Halladay got the win out of it. It's one thing to like a guy when he's with your team, but seemed like he was loved and respected even more AFTER he left.

[Majingir]

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Reading an article, sounds like it might've been the planes fault. Apparently only several have ever been made, almost half have crashed. The engineer died a few months back in plane crash too.

Obviously issues can happen on any plane and this is a risky hobby, but surprised Halladay even got this, and that it was being sold still given its already dangerous history. I mean the engineer of the plane died in a crash... How do you continue to make the plane and sell it still? It was a new plane as he was showing it off recently online. Who knows how many times he even flew it before yesterday.

[SPTO]

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Sounds like you and I read the same article. You know there are questions about the use and design of the plane when the guy who designed it died while piloting the thing.

Here's the article for those who might be interested:

LOS ANGELES — The tiny sport plane Roy Halladay was flying Tuesday when he fatally crashed into the Gulf of Mexico was made for entry-level pilots like him, though the plane’s chief designer and test pilot died while flying one earlier this year, officials and experts said.

Halladay, the 40-year-old former Blue Jays and Phillies pitcher, had been the proud owner for less than a month of his ICON A5, and was among the first to fly it, with only about 20 in existence, according the website for ICON Aviation.

In one of many enthusiastic tweets about the plane, Halladay said it felt "like flying a fighter jet."

Rolled out in 2014, the A5 is an amphibious aircraft meant to be treated like an ATV, a piece of weekend recreational gear with folding wings that can easily be towed on a trailer to a lake where it can take off from the water.

"The way that a lot of people described it is a Jet Ski with wings," Stephen Pope, editor-in-chief of Flying magazine, told The Associated Press Tuesday. "It’s really a plaything."

The man who led the plane’s design, 55-year-old John Murray Karkow, died while flying an A5 over California’s Lake Berryessa on May 8, in a crash the National Transportation Safety Board blamed on pilot error. The NTSB will also investigate Halladay’s crash to determine the cause.

In other tweets, Halladay said he had dreamed about owning one of the planes, and said in video on the company’s website that he had to talk his wife into letting him get one. The son of a corporate pilot, Halladay had been forbidden to take up aviation until after his retirement in 2014.

Pope said "the plane itself is great," but he had concerns about Halladay, a new pilot with little flying time, taking the craft out over water at low altitude, though the plane was marketed as a craft that could do that.

"They still think that that’s the way the airplane should be flown, and there are people in aviation who completely disagree with that," Pope said. "They think you should not have a low-time pilot flying low over water. That’s a recipe for disaster."

Low flying was part of the problem when Karkow, the designer, crashed, according to federal investigators. Karkow was killed along with passenger Cagri Sever, the company’s newly hired director of engineering.

The NTSB blamed pilot error for the crash, saying Karkow mistakenly entered a canyon while flying too low, causing the plane to strike the canyon wall.

Another A5 crashed in April, making a hard landing in the water off Key Largo, Florida, injuring the pilot and his passenger. The pilot told investigators the plane descended faster than he expected.

Halladay’s ICON A5 went down around noon off the coast of Florida, Pasco County Sheriff Chris Nocco said.

The sheriff’s office marine unit responded and discovered Halladay’s body in shallow water near some mangroves. No survivors were found.

Police said they couldn’t confirm if there were additional passengers on the plane or say where it was headed.

ICON Aviation said in a statement that the company would assist the NTSB in every way possible with its investigation, and that its executives and employees are "devastated" by Halladay’s death.

"We have gotten to know Roy and his family in recent months, and he was a great advocate and friend of ours," the statement said.

Reading all these things makes me really surprised Doc got into it so feverishly. It really sounds like this plane hit his blind spot so hard that he didn't see the dangers of it. I also get the sense that Icon Aviation was drooling at the prospect of having such an enthusiastic pitch man for their new plane and made it really easy to pull the wool over Doc's eyes.

It's just tragic