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  • #2791
    SPTO
    binging
    • Feb 2003
    • 68046

    Re: 2018-2019 Hot Stove Thread


    re: 2018-2019 Hot Stove Thread

    Originally posted by PhilliesFan13
    Oh he will be booed beyond belief. Don't worry about that.

    Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk
    Oh trust me, the man might need a security escort the first time his new team goes to town. I WILL watch that first game even if it means I have to use shady means to do so.

    It's going to be a frightening experience IMO. The first real "rowdy Philly fans" moment in Citizens Bank Park history IMO.


    BTW I was listening to an interview with Bob Nightengale and he brought up a point i've been hinting at on here lately. This could be the contract negotiations that spell the end of the Era of Boras as THE premier baseball agent. If he can't get Bryce a long term deal with the highest AAV it's going to be extremely embarrassing to him. This is as much a legacy play for Boras as it is for Harper. Remember, it was a couple years ago that Boras was proclaiming that Harper would easily get 400 mil over 10 years. Now he's being squeezed into a box with teams trying to go short term on 3 years 100 mil (which is a rumor I've heard about the Dodgers' latest offer) That would give Harper the AAV but certainly not the term.

    In a lot of ways Boras' tactics have become obsolete and many of the things he brought to negotiations that helped get his clients big money deals was the introduction of the SABR/analytical stats. Now he's been caught up and outflanked as the entirety of MLB uses those analytics to a large degree and scale that has actually HURT not only his clients but most players in baseball right now.
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    • #2792
      ProfessaPackMan
      Bamma
      • Mar 2008
      • 63850

      Re: 2018-2019 Hot Stove Thread


      2018-2019 Slow Cooker Thread

      Heh, now isn’t this a hilarious sight to see.
      #RespectTheCulture

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      • #2793
        areobee401
        Hall Of Fame
        • Apr 2006
        • 16771

        Re: 2018-2019 Hot Stove Thread


        2018-2019 Slow Cooker Thread

        I am still rooting for Harper to get paid big time and hurt the feelings of Philadelphia in the process.
        http://twitter.com/smittyroberts

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        • #2794
          countryboy
          3/13/26
          • Sep 2003
          • 53453

          Re: 2018-2019 Hot Stove Thread


          re: 2018-2019 Hot Stove Thread

          Giants are reportedly offering a 10 year deal now for Harper.

          Its presumed the Dodgers are as well.
          I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

          I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


          Louisville Cardinals/St.Louis Cardinals

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          • #2795
            GoDucks1224
            MVP
            • Jul 2012
            • 2623

            Re: 2018-2019 Hot Stove Thread


            re: 2018-2019 Hot Stove Thread

            Speculation is that Bryce and Boras used Philly as leverage and wanted to go west coast the whole time.

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            • #2796
              SPTO
              binging
              • Feb 2003
              • 68046

              Re: 2018-2019 Hot Stove Thread


              re: 2018-2019 Hot Stove Thread

              Originally posted by areobee401
              I am still rooting for Harper to get paid big time and hurt the feelings of Philadelphia in the process.
              Actually I think it'd hurt their feelings MORE if he got a shorter term deal with lesser money considering the fact that it seems Philly was the only one offering 10 years and the most (or darn near it) amount of money.
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              "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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              • #2797
                SPTO
                binging
                • Feb 2003
                • 68046

                Re: 2018-2019 Hot Stove Thread


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                Originally posted by countryboy
                Giants are reportedly offering a 10 year deal now for Harper.

                Its presumed the Dodgers are as well.
                Whut?

                Well damn, looks like Boras is gonna pull off a miracle.

                It really does seem like they were just screwing around with Philly.
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                • #2798
                  areobee401
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 16771

                  Re: 2018-2019 Hot Stove Thread


                  re: 2018-2019 Hot Stove Thread

                  Originally posted by SPTO
                  Actually I think it'd hurt their feelings MORE if he got a shorter term deal with lesser money considering the fact that it seems Philly was the only one offering 10 years and the most (or darn near it) amount of money.

                  Either way I want some hurt feelings out of Philadelphia. The arrogance shown by some of them through this entire process was a huge turnoff for me.
                  http://twitter.com/smittyroberts

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                  • #2799
                    jake44np
                    Post Like a Champion!
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 9565

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                    re: 2018-2019 Hot Stove Thread

                    So it looks like it is coming down to SF and LAD now?
                    Just pick a damn team already.
                    ND Season Ticket Holder since '72.

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                    • #2800
                      countryboy
                      3/13/26
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 53453

                      Re: 2018-2019 Hot Stove Thread


                      re: 2018-2019 Hot Stove Thread

                      Originally posted by SPTO
                      Whut?

                      Well damn, looks like Boras is gonna pull off a miracle.

                      It really does seem like they were just screwing around with Philly.
                      Yep

                      With Arenado signing extension with Rockies, it opened the door for the Dodgers at least to open up their pocketbooks a little more.
                      I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                      I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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                      • #2801
                        ProfessaPackMan
                        Bamma
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 63850

                        Re: 2018-2019 Hot Stove Thread


                        re: 2018-2019 Hot Stove Thread

                        Originally posted by GoDucks1224
                        Speculation is that Bryce and Boras used Philly as leverage and wanted to go west coast the whole time.
                        Hard to see how this wasn’t the case all along.
                        #RespectTheCulture

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                        • #2802
                          LowerWolf
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jun 2006
                          • 12282

                          Re: 2018-2019 Hot Stove Thread


                          re: 2018-2019 Hot Stove Thread

                          It has to be the Dodgers, right?

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                          • #2803
                            SPTO
                            binging
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 68046

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                            re: 2018-2019 Hot Stove Thread

                            You know, You have to feel pretty bad for the Phillies organization. The Harper camp wasn't negotiating in good faith at all. Middleton must feel really embarrassed once he realized the Phillies were being used all along.
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                            • #2804
                              ProfessaPackMan
                              Bamma
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 63850

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                              They’ll be fine.

                              He’ll still have his millions and they’ll still win games without Harper. Even without him, they’ve still had a decent offseason with the moves they’ve made.
                              #RespectTheCulture

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                              • #2805
                                Marino
                                Moderator
                                • Jan 2008
                                • 18113

                                Re: 2018-2019 Hot Stove Thread


                                re: 2018-2019 Hot Stove Thread

                                Originally posted by LowerWolf
                                It has to be the Dodgers, right?
                                I hope so.

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