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  • DrJones
    All Star
    • Mar 2003
    • 9109

    #301
    Re: 2020 World Series: Tampa Bay Rays vs. Los Angeles Dodgers

    To "cheer up" the Yankees fans, remember in the 2017 ALDS, Cleveland came back from an 8-3 deficit in Game 2 to win 9-8 in 13, including a grand slam that came after Girardi didn't bother challenging a missed call on a HBP. The Indians led the AL with 102 wins and the Game 2 comeback gave them a 2-0 series lead and a 31-4 record in their last 35 games.

    A classic "heartbreaking defeat" from which the young, talented, but overmatched Yankees couldn't recover.
    New York then won 3 straight.
    Originally posted by Thrash13
    Dr. Jones was right in stating that. We should have believed him.
    Originally posted by slickdtc
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    Originally posted by Kipnis22
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    • Chip Douglass
      Hall Of Fame
      • Dec 2005
      • 12256

      #302
      Re: 2020 World Series: Tampa Bay Rays vs. Los Angeles Dodgers

      Gotta say for my part I really enjoyed the ending to the 2001 World Series, lol. No, I don't feel sorry for the Yankees, with them just having won more championships in a 5 year span than a large number of MLB teams have won in their entire history.

      And it took a choketastic effort by the Diamondbacks to even reach the point where they had to mount a last ditch comeback against Rivera in the 9th inning of Game 7.
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      • Chip Douglass
        Hall Of Fame
        • Dec 2005
        • 12256

        #303
        Re: 2020 World Series: Tampa Bay Rays vs. Los Angeles Dodgers

        Switching back to the present, I wonder if Jansen's closer role is in jeopardy again. Granted, the tying run scored after reaching on a bloop hit and the winning run scored after Little League defense, but the command and velo issues were again a problem.
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        • DrJones
          All Star
          • Mar 2003
          • 9109

          #304
          Re: 2020 World Series: Tampa Bay Rays vs. Los Angeles Dodgers

          Originally posted by Chip Douglass
          And it took a choketastic effort by Bob Brenly to even reach the point where they had to mount a last ditch comeback against Rivera in the 9th inning of Game 7.
          FTFY

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          Originally posted by Thrash13
          Dr. Jones was right in stating that. We should have believed him.
          Originally posted by slickdtc
          DrJones brings the stinky cheese is what we've all learned from this debacle.
          Originally posted by Kipnis22
          yes your fantasy world when your proven wrong about 95% of your post

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          • Chip Douglass
            Hall Of Fame
            • Dec 2005
            • 12256

            #305
            Re: 2020 World Series: Tampa Bay Rays vs. Los Angeles Dodgers

            Originally posted by DrJones
            FTFY

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            Assuming you're referring to the Games 4 and 5 choke jobs, wasn't Byung-Hyun Kim their bullpen ace?
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            • DrJones
              All Star
              • Mar 2003
              • 9109

              #306
              Re: 2020 World Series: Tampa Bay Rays vs. Los Angeles Dodgers

              Originally posted by Chip Douglass
              Switching back to the present, I wonder if Jansen's closer role is in jeopardy again. Granted, the tying run scored after reaching on a bloop hit and the winning run scored after Little League defense, but the command and velo issues were again a problem.
              It absolutely should be.

              Again, this is where I'll point to how Hinch managed the Astros bullpen in the 2017 WS. (Something that will understandably be lost to the mists of time.) Houston had a dynamite bullpen during the regular season; they struggled badly in the early rounds, and Hinch completely ditched them and went with long guys and starters, basically whoever could do the job.

              I'm very much in the "what have you done for me lately" camp when it comes to relievers.
              No relief pitcher I've watched over the last 40 years (Rivera excepted) deserves the benefit of the doubt. Pitch well, or take a seat. (Assuming there are viable options, of course.)
              Last edited by DrJones; 10-25-2020, 01:05 AM.
              Originally posted by Thrash13
              Dr. Jones was right in stating that. We should have believed him.
              Originally posted by slickdtc
              DrJones brings the stinky cheese is what we've all learned from this debacle.
              Originally posted by Kipnis22
              yes your fantasy world when your proven wrong about 95% of your post

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              • l3ulvl
                Hall Of Fame
                • Dec 2009
                • 17255

                #307
                Re: 2020 World Series: Tampa Bay Rays vs. Los Angeles Dodgers

                Originally posted by DrJones
                To "cheer up" the Yankees fans
                that's the important thing
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                • DrJones
                  All Star
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 9109

                  #308
                  Re: 2020 World Series: Tampa Bay Rays vs. Los Angeles Dodgers

                  Originally posted by Chip Douglass
                  Assuming you're referring to the Games 4 and 5 choke jobs, wasn't Byung-Hyun Kim their bullpen ace?
                  Kim gave up 10 HR during the 2001 regular season, which is a lot for a closer.

                  Unit and Schilling were practically unbeatable on full rest that season.
                  Brenly choosing to pitch Schilling on short rest was completely insane.

                  Remember, Brenly brought Kim into Game 4 in the 8th inning, then kept him in AFTER giving up the game-tying HR - he threw 2 2/3 innings and 61 pitches, and gave up two of the most traumatic home runs in recent memory against the freaking 3-time defending champions at Yankee Stadium! Then Brenly brings Kim into the 9th the next night!!! Talk about insane.

                  EDIT: This isn't hindsight, either. I was working late at EA that night, and was cursing so loudly at Brenly's idiocy (and at the Yankees in general) that a security guard came to see what the hell was going on.
                  Last edited by DrJones; 10-25-2020, 01:03 AM.
                  Originally posted by Thrash13
                  Dr. Jones was right in stating that. We should have believed him.
                  Originally posted by slickdtc
                  DrJones brings the stinky cheese is what we've all learned from this debacle.
                  Originally posted by Kipnis22
                  yes your fantasy world when your proven wrong about 95% of your post

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                  • Chip Douglass
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 12256

                    #309
                    Re: 2020 World Series: Tampa Bay Rays vs. Los Angeles Dodgers

                    The only other times I can recall where a team lost a WS game where they were one strike away from winning twice were Game 6 of the 1986 World Series (which ended on an error, of course) and Game 6 of the 2011 World Series.

                    And we have the biggest October underachiever in baseball history going for us tomorrow. Feeling really good!
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                    • DrJones
                      All Star
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 9109

                      #310
                      Re: 2020 World Series: Tampa Bay Rays vs. Los Angeles Dodgers

                      Originally posted by Chip Douglass
                      The only other times I can recall where a team lost a WS game where they were one strike away from winning twice were Game 6 of the 1986 World Series (which ended on an error, of course) and Game 6 of the 2011 World Series.
                      I always found it strange that Nelson Cruz mostly escaped infamy in 2011.
                      Originally posted by Thrash13
                      Dr. Jones was right in stating that. We should have believed him.
                      Originally posted by slickdtc
                      DrJones brings the stinky cheese is what we've all learned from this debacle.
                      Originally posted by Kipnis22
                      yes your fantasy world when your proven wrong about 95% of your post

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                      • ImTellinTim
                        YNWA
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 33028

                        #311
                        Re: 2020 World Series: Tampa Bay Rays vs. Los Angeles Dodgers

                        I don’t think I’ve ever seen two teams conspire to out-mistake each other like that in such a huge moment. I am rooting for the Dodgers to shake that off and take two of the next three. They can’t keep doing this to their fans.

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                        • countryboy
                          Growing pains
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 52812

                          #312
                          Re: 2020 World Series: Tampa Bay Rays vs. Los Angeles Dodgers

                          Dodgers fell victim to comeback AI


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                          • Caulfield
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 10986

                            #313
                            Re: 2020 World Series: Tampa Bay Rays vs. Los Angeles Dodgers

                            Originally posted by dubcity
                            We know the Dodgers aren't winning this. Let's be real.
                            even after last night, my gut still says LA. with no real homefield advantage for either team, it really makes this WS & everything up for grabs. in the future, I wouldn't mind seeing the WS game 1 neutral site, game 2 & 4 at the team with the better regular season record, game 3 & 5 at the other team, back to neutral for a game 6, and game 7 at the team with the better regular season record. oh jeez, Manferd's really starting to rub off on me
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                            • Majingir
                              Moderator
                              • Apr 2005
                              • 47666

                              #314
                              Re: 2020 World Series: Tampa Bay Rays vs. Los Angeles Dodgers

                              Originally posted by countryboy
                              Dodgers fell victim to comeback AI


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                              Stupid video games.

                              You (Dodgers) score in 1st and 3rd.

                              AI(Rays) makes it 2-1 in bottom 4.

                              You go up 3-1 in top of 5th

                              They make it 3-2 bottom 5th

                              You go 4-2 top 6th

                              They take lead 5-4 bottom 6th

                              You regain lead 6-5 top 7th

                              They tie it up 6-6 bottom 7th

                              You once again get lead 7-6 top 8th

                              You shut them down bottom 8th!

                              You strike out 1st batter bottom of the 9th, then get the 2nd out with only 1 runner on. Now you're facing some sub .200 bench player, you have him down to 2 strikes, and then next thing you know he gets a hit, your fielder makes an error, and you lose.

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                              • Sportsforever
                                NL MVP
                                • Mar 2005
                                • 20368

                                #315
                                Re: 2020 World Series: Tampa Bay Rays vs. Los Angeles Dodgers

                                Jansen's comments won't make Dodger fans happy...especially after not backing up home plate on the play.
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