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  • dacubys
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    • Nov 2004
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    #151
    Re: Bonds before and after

    Originally posted by Blzer
    That's just not right. Not the comparison, but the picture itself.

    Nice respect to those that... nevermind.
    lighten up it is just for laughs..i didn't make it
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    • Blzer
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      • Mar 2004
      • 42520

      #152
      Re: Bonds before and after

      Originally posted by dacubys
      lighten up it is just for laughs..i didn't make it
      I know you didn't make it, and I know why you posted it.

      It's just... wrong, you know?
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      • Blzer
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        • Mar 2004
        • 42520

        #153
        Re: Bonds before and after

        Originally posted by dacubys
        lighten up it is just for laughs..i didn't make it
        I know you didn't make it, and I know why you posted it.

        It's just... wrong, you know?
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        • bryan_05
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          • Jul 2002
          • 3540

          #154
          Re: Bonds before and after

          I think Griffey, Jordan, Malone and those guys are just from getting old.
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          • bryan_05
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            • Jul 2002
            • 3540

            #155
            Re: Bonds before and after

            I think Griffey, Jordan, Malone and those guys are just from getting old.
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            • blackceasar
              MVP
              • Sep 2003
              • 3228

              #156
              Re: Bonds before and after

              Originally posted by iLLmatic
              all of your points have been taken into consideration and i love a little back and forth debate. but lets go back to the topic of the thread: BONDS BEFORE AND AFTER. and lets take another look at the photo of James Toney on page 2 or 3 of this thread. I live in the bay area have been a giants fan even before bonds was here and have seen the gradual process of his growth. contrary to popular belief he didnt go from looking like a basketball player to looking like a linebacker in a year or 2. his weight gain has been gradual since 1990. ESPN had a weight comparison that showed that from 1986-2004 he had gained 38lbs. 186lbs to 224. if you do the math on that people it averages out to about 2.2 lbs a year. add that to nutriotionalists, lifting year round with no layoffs in the winter and you mean to tell me a man cant gain 2 flippin pounds a year? and give up this "Its muscle mass he gained. thats impossible" crap.

              I have seen barry bonds with his shirt off. he aint ripped and he has a little bit of a gut. no six pack no odd looking veins poppin out from everywhere. he aint chiseled he is just BIGGER than he WAS as a pirate. and the growth has been steady. If James toney can go from a middleweight to a heavyweight with no roids or "juice", how come bonds could not have done it? I can give a rats azz whether or not he did it because i aint gonna benefit or suffer from it. We still have no world series trophies in san francisco and as a FAN thats what I am concerned with. is it his hat size? is it because he was skinny in his 20's and now he isnt? And the excuse he is about to break records is weak too. He could be regular ol barry bonds that everyone hates with no 70 home run season, no possible all time record for homers and you still would pile on. WHY? because you all hate barry lamar bonds and you just dont want to admit it. is he an a-hole? probably. is he a prick? yeah sure but does that mean he had to have used roids because his high school buddy of 20+ years was slangin em to other people? guilt by association dont work for me.

              there is a laundry list of nfl, mlb, even hockey and nba guys who have or have had trainers who do the same thing but have never been caught for it or hey possibly never knew what their trainer was doin on the side. but besides Jordan, Bonds is the most high profile athlete there has been in a few years. and if you can find something suspicious enough to raise a little doubt, like how it was thought that Jordans father died because of jordans possible gambling problem, you will and thats what has happened. Is this all about getting barry? maybe. maybe not. but the way this topic gets resurrected every 3 days or so tells me all I need to know.
              Just like ive been trying to tell all of these idiots. 1. There is at LEAST a 10 year gap between those pics. If you dont think ANYONE with the right workout regiement can put on mass like that over 10 years you are blind, deaf, and dumb and ONLY want to listen to the ROIDS-TALK.

              2. Bonds isnt ripped. Hes bulky but not ripped. Hes got some fat on him too which comes NATURALLY with his age. Im 30 years old and at 25 I was 5-11 215 and was at about 9% body fat. I was ripped. Im almost 31 now and I look bigger than I did at 25. Ive gained more muscle , yes indeed...but ive also gained fat too. I look more like bonds now and when I was 25 I looked more like a short stocky Lebron James. Im not on any juice. Look at Hulk Hogan like back in 1983 he was ripped a little bit and weighed about 275lbs. Now at like 46 years old hes like 325 lbs and hes BIGGER, but hes also got fat and his pecs are turning into titties lol. With his shirt on though he just looks like a huge muscle bound monster. Yeah Hogan was on the juice and he admitted it..but im trying to point out Bonds body with no shirt on doesnt look like Arnold when he was Conan.
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              • blackceasar
                MVP
                • Sep 2003
                • 3228

                #157
                Re: Bonds before and after

                Originally posted by iLLmatic
                all of your points have been taken into consideration and i love a little back and forth debate. but lets go back to the topic of the thread: BONDS BEFORE AND AFTER. and lets take another look at the photo of James Toney on page 2 or 3 of this thread. I live in the bay area have been a giants fan even before bonds was here and have seen the gradual process of his growth. contrary to popular belief he didnt go from looking like a basketball player to looking like a linebacker in a year or 2. his weight gain has been gradual since 1990. ESPN had a weight comparison that showed that from 1986-2004 he had gained 38lbs. 186lbs to 224. if you do the math on that people it averages out to about 2.2 lbs a year. add that to nutriotionalists, lifting year round with no layoffs in the winter and you mean to tell me a man cant gain 2 flippin pounds a year? and give up this "Its muscle mass he gained. thats impossible" crap.

                I have seen barry bonds with his shirt off. he aint ripped and he has a little bit of a gut. no six pack no odd looking veins poppin out from everywhere. he aint chiseled he is just BIGGER than he WAS as a pirate. and the growth has been steady. If James toney can go from a middleweight to a heavyweight with no roids or "juice", how come bonds could not have done it? I can give a rats azz whether or not he did it because i aint gonna benefit or suffer from it. We still have no world series trophies in san francisco and as a FAN thats what I am concerned with. is it his hat size? is it because he was skinny in his 20's and now he isnt? And the excuse he is about to break records is weak too. He could be regular ol barry bonds that everyone hates with no 70 home run season, no possible all time record for homers and you still would pile on. WHY? because you all hate barry lamar bonds and you just dont want to admit it. is he an a-hole? probably. is he a prick? yeah sure but does that mean he had to have used roids because his high school buddy of 20+ years was slangin em to other people? guilt by association dont work for me.

                there is a laundry list of nfl, mlb, even hockey and nba guys who have or have had trainers who do the same thing but have never been caught for it or hey possibly never knew what their trainer was doin on the side. but besides Jordan, Bonds is the most high profile athlete there has been in a few years. and if you can find something suspicious enough to raise a little doubt, like how it was thought that Jordans father died because of jordans possible gambling problem, you will and thats what has happened. Is this all about getting barry? maybe. maybe not. but the way this topic gets resurrected every 3 days or so tells me all I need to know.
                Just like ive been trying to tell all of these idiots. 1. There is at LEAST a 10 year gap between those pics. If you dont think ANYONE with the right workout regiement can put on mass like that over 10 years you are blind, deaf, and dumb and ONLY want to listen to the ROIDS-TALK.

                2. Bonds isnt ripped. Hes bulky but not ripped. Hes got some fat on him too which comes NATURALLY with his age. Im 30 years old and at 25 I was 5-11 215 and was at about 9% body fat. I was ripped. Im almost 31 now and I look bigger than I did at 25. Ive gained more muscle , yes indeed...but ive also gained fat too. I look more like bonds now and when I was 25 I looked more like a short stocky Lebron James. Im not on any juice. Look at Hulk Hogan like back in 1983 he was ripped a little bit and weighed about 275lbs. Now at like 46 years old hes like 325 lbs and hes BIGGER, but hes also got fat and his pecs are turning into titties lol. With his shirt on though he just looks like a huge muscle bound monster. Yeah Hogan was on the juice and he admitted it..but im trying to point out Bonds body with no shirt on doesnt look like Arnold when he was Conan.
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                • mjb2124
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 13649

                  #158
                  Re: Bonds before and after

                  Originally posted by blackceasar
                  Just like ive been trying to tell all of these idiots.

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                  • mjb2124
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 13649

                    #159
                    Re: Bonds before and after

                    Originally posted by blackceasar
                    Just like ive been trying to tell all of these idiots.

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                    • blackceasar
                      MVP
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 3228

                      #160
                      Re: Bonds before and after

                      Originally posted by joeboo

                      And I noticed thats ALL you could quote from what I said and respond to. Hmmmmm. Point proven.
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                      • blackceasar
                        MVP
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 3228

                        #161
                        Re: Bonds before and after

                        Originally posted by joeboo

                        And I noticed thats ALL you could quote from what I said and respond to. Hmmmmm. Point proven.
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                        • mjb2124
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 13649

                          #162
                          Re: Bonds before and after

                          Originally posted by blackceasar
                          And I noticed thats ALL you could quote from what I said and respond to. Hmmmmm. Point proven.
                          Wrong. If you want to be taken seriously, don't call people idiots. Until then, there's no reason to respond to your rhetoric.

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                          • mjb2124
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 13649

                            #163
                            Re: Bonds before and after

                            Originally posted by blackceasar
                            And I noticed thats ALL you could quote from what I said and respond to. Hmmmmm. Point proven.
                            Wrong. If you want to be taken seriously, don't call people idiots. Until then, there's no reason to respond to your rhetoric.

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                            • jdros13
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2004
                              • 1255

                              #164
                              Re: Bonds before and after

                              Guys, Bonds has admitted to taking steriods "unknowingly" according to the leaked BALCO testimony.....*BONDS BALCO TESTIMONY*

                              Just because a guy isn't "ripped" doesn't meant they aren't showing signs of using. There are only 2 people I have known were using steriods. One was a powerlifter, and no one was going to accuse him of being "ripped", because he wasn't training to be a bodybuilder...he was training to put on mass. The other one I guess was better defined, but he wasn't going to be reminding anyone of "Ahnold" either.

                              Just because Bonds gained weight doesn't make him a user, but his testimony does. The only question is whether he "knew" what he was taking or not. Apparently investigators think he might have lied on the stand, because there is no other reason to call in his mistress unless they were considering going after him for perjury, which apparently they may be doing, as well as tax evasion....*LINK*

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                              • jdros13
                                MVP
                                • Oct 2004
                                • 1255

                                #165
                                Re: Bonds before and after

                                Guys, Bonds has admitted to taking steriods "unknowingly" according to the leaked BALCO testimony.....*BONDS BALCO TESTIMONY*

                                Just because a guy isn't "ripped" doesn't meant they aren't showing signs of using. There are only 2 people I have known were using steriods. One was a powerlifter, and no one was going to accuse him of being "ripped", because he wasn't training to be a bodybuilder...he was training to put on mass. The other one I guess was better defined, but he wasn't going to be reminding anyone of "Ahnold" either.

                                Just because Bonds gained weight doesn't make him a user, but his testimony does. The only question is whether he "knew" what he was taking or not. Apparently investigators think he might have lied on the stand, because there is no other reason to call in his mistress unless they were considering going after him for perjury, which apparently they may be doing, as well as tax evasion....*LINK*

                                A link to all SF Chronicle articles on BALCO....*LINK*
                                Goal Line Blitz

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