Boras has control of almost all the top pitching prospects in 05 Draft

[VanCitySportsGuy]

I'm sure teams are thrilled Boras is the agent for 5 of the top 6 pitchers (assuming Weaver goes back to the draft).

Boras is the agent of Mike Pelfrey, Luke Hochevar, Mark McCormick, Jason Neighborgall, and Jered Weaver.

I think you're going to see more and more college players choose Boras as their agent because he makes sure you get top dollars. Of course the risk is that you might go back into the draft.

With all the big deals Boras has cut the past several years, I wonder how much the guy has made.

[mjb2124]

Re: Boras has control of almost all the top pitching prospects in 05 Draft

Another problem with baseball.

The type of money Boras has been able to get his clients has caused small market teams, who typically have some of the top picks in the draft, to draft worse players because they're signable. Thus small market teams have a harder time even building from within because they can't draft some of the higher rated prospsects.

Maybe someday baseball will be able to fix the money problem it's facing.

[mjb2124]

Re: Boras has control of almost all the top pitching prospects in 05 Draft

Another problem with baseball.

The type of money Boras has been able to get his clients has caused small market teams, who typically have some of the top picks in the draft, to draft worse players because they're signable. Thus small market teams have a harder time even building from within because they can't draft some of the higher rated prospsects.

Maybe someday baseball will be able to fix the money problem it's facing.

[SPTO]

Re: Boras has control of almost all the top pitching prospects in 05 Draft

How many clients does Boras have? I wonder if there's anyways MLB can set a limit on how many clients a given agent can represent. I know it's not a great help but at least it's SOMETHING.

[SPTO]

Re: Boras has control of almost all the top pitching prospects in 05 Draft

How many clients does Boras have? I wonder if there's anyways MLB can set a limit on how many clients a given agent can represent. I know it's not a great help but at least it's SOMETHING.

[bravosfan]

Re: Boras has control of almost all the top pitching prospects in 05 Draft

Another problem with baseball.

The type of money Boras has been able to get his clients has caused small market teams, who typically have some of the top picks in the draft, to draft worse players because they're signable. Thus small market teams have a harder time even building from within because they can't draft some of the higher rated prospsects.

Maybe someday baseball will be able to fix the money problem it's facing.

Sometimes that can be a blessing in disguise. In 1990 the consensus #1 player was Todd Van Poppel. But because of Van Poppel's contract demands, and his threat to enroll at the University of Texas, the Braves (who had the #1 pick) took some shortstop from Florida. His name was Larry-somebody, I forget.

[bravosfan]

Re: Boras has control of almost all the top pitching prospects in 05 Draft

Another problem with baseball.

The type of money Boras has been able to get his clients has caused small market teams, who typically have some of the top picks in the draft, to draft worse players because they're signable. Thus small market teams have a harder time even building from within because they can't draft some of the higher rated prospsects.

Maybe someday baseball will be able to fix the money problem it's facing.

Sometimes that can be a blessing in disguise. In 1990 the consensus #1 player was Todd Van Poppel. But because of Van Poppel's contract demands, and his threat to enroll at the University of Texas, the Braves (who had the #1 pick) took some shortstop from Florida. His name was Larry-somebody, I forget.

[VanCitySportsGuy]

Re: Boras has control of almost all the top pitching prospects in 05 Draft

Another problem with baseball.

The type of money Boras has been able to get his clients has caused small market teams, who typically have some of the top picks in the draft, to draft worse players because they're signable. Thus small market teams have a harder time even building from within because they can't draft some of the higher rated prospsects.

Maybe someday baseball will be able to fix the money problem it's facing.

That sounds fine and dandy but I doubt that's going to happen. There's more upper/middle market teams in MLB than small market teams. By fixing this current draft problem, it only helps the smaller markets teams and there's no reason for teams like the Yanks, Red Sox, Dodgers, Phillies, Astros, Braves, Rangers, Mariners, Cards, etc... to go for it. They would be asking why would they want to lose the draft advantage because they have nothing to gain from it.

I know the Pirates owner has said he will be more vocal during the next CBA negotiations and wants a salary cap, too bad the majority of his fellow owners will probably be laughing at him and wishing him good luck.

The problem with a sports league that has multiple owners is that they are partners and competition at the same time. There's a conflict of interest there. You're basically asking how much do I want to help the competition at the expense of my own asset.

[VanCitySportsGuy]

Re: Boras has control of almost all the top pitching prospects in 05 Draft

Another problem with baseball.

The type of money Boras has been able to get his clients has caused small market teams, who typically have some of the top picks in the draft, to draft worse players because they're signable. Thus small market teams have a harder time even building from within because they can't draft some of the higher rated prospsects.

Maybe someday baseball will be able to fix the money problem it's facing.

That sounds fine and dandy but I doubt that's going to happen. There's more upper/middle market teams in MLB than small market teams. By fixing this current draft problem, it only helps the smaller markets teams and there's no reason for teams like the Yanks, Red Sox, Dodgers, Phillies, Astros, Braves, Rangers, Mariners, Cards, etc... to go for it. They would be asking why would they want to lose the draft advantage because they have nothing to gain from it.

I know the Pirates owner has said he will be more vocal during the next CBA negotiations and wants a salary cap, too bad the majority of his fellow owners will probably be laughing at him and wishing him good luck.

The problem with a sports league that has multiple owners is that they are partners and competition at the same time. There's a conflict of interest there. You're basically asking how much do I want to help the competition at the expense of my own asset.

[mjb2124]

Re: Boras has control of almost all the top pitching prospects in 05 Draft

AF - True, large markets will never go for a Salary Cap. That's why it has to be forced upon them by a commissioner who actually has a backbone. It's the only way to fix baseball. What's the point anymore? The same teams are going to the playoffs year after year after year. There's a reason I've lost a lot of interest recently in the game I've loved for many years (steroids being the other part).

A salary cap and salary basement needs to be implemented. How's a 35 MIL payroll going to compete with a 100 MIL payroll let alone a 200 MIL payroll? the only way is to build from within, but when you can't pay for top draft picks, what's the point? Forcing a 150 MIL cap and 55 MIL basement would fix a lot of the problems we see today. Not everything, but it's a start.

It says a lot when the Pirates have been around for over 110 years and there longest losing streak was 8 straight years. That was until now. This year will be 13 and next year will be 14 and the year after will be 15. Then some of the young stars the Pirates have will be able to leave. You think Jason Bay and Oliver Perez are going to stay? Nope, especially when Perez is a Boras client. Time to rebuild a 85-90 loss team. It's a vicious cycle that will never end until something is done.

/End Rant

Needless to say, I'm fed up with the state of Major League Baseball.

[mjb2124]

Re: Boras has control of almost all the top pitching prospects in 05 Draft

AF - True, large markets will never go for a Salary Cap. That's why it has to be forced upon them by a commissioner who actually has a backbone. It's the only way to fix baseball. What's the point anymore? The same teams are going to the playoffs year after year after year. There's a reason I've lost a lot of interest recently in the game I've loved for many years (steroids being the other part).

A salary cap and salary basement needs to be implemented. How's a 35 MIL payroll going to compete with a 100 MIL payroll let alone a 200 MIL payroll? the only way is to build from within, but when you can't pay for top draft picks, what's the point? Forcing a 150 MIL cap and 55 MIL basement would fix a lot of the problems we see today. Not everything, but it's a start.

It says a lot when the Pirates have been around for over 110 years and there longest losing streak was 8 straight years. That was until now. This year will be 13 and next year will be 14 and the year after will be 15. Then some of the young stars the Pirates have will be able to leave. You think Jason Bay and Oliver Perez are going to stay? Nope, especially when Perez is a Boras client. Time to rebuild a 85-90 loss team. It's a vicious cycle that will never end until something is done.

/End Rant

Needless to say, I'm fed up with the state of Major League Baseball.

[mjb2124]

Re: Boras has control of almost all the top pitching prospects in 05 Draft

Sometimes that can be a blessing in disguise. In 1990 the consensus #1 player was Todd Van Poppel. But because of Van Poppel's contract demands, and his threat to enroll at the University of Texas, the Braves (who had the #1 pick) took some shortstop from Florida. His name was Larry-somebody, I forget.

LOL. Yeah, Van Poppel even made a nice stop in PGH a while back. Of course, this was 5-6 years past his prime! Talk about a bust.

[mjb2124]

Re: Boras has control of almost all the top pitching prospects in 05 Draft

Sometimes that can be a blessing in disguise. In 1990 the consensus #1 player was Todd Van Poppel. But because of Van Poppel's contract demands, and his threat to enroll at the University of Texas, the Braves (who had the #1 pick) took some shortstop from Florida. His name was Larry-somebody, I forget.

LOL. Yeah, Van Poppel even made a nice stop in PGH a while back. Of course, this was 5-6 years past his prime! Talk about a bust.

[BatsareBugs]

Re: Boras has control of almost all the top pitching prospects in 05 Draft

Ah, then this must mean that the Padres won't be getting a pitcher.

Anywho, I see some of them returning to college or losing out because of this. I'm betting all of them will demand lucrative contracts compared to what others get in the rounds they're chosen.

[BatsareBugs]

Re: Boras has control of almost all the top pitching prospects in 05 Draft

Ah, then this must mean that the Padres won't be getting a pitcher.

Anywho, I see some of them returning to college or losing out because of this. I'm betting all of them will demand lucrative contracts compared to what others get in the rounds they're chosen.