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  • DGetz
    Pro
    • Mar 2004
    • 636

    #1

    Is Bud Selig really so bad?

    As I'm sure anyone who follows baseball knows there are a lot of people who just think Bud Selig is absolutly the worst (or one of the worst) people involved in the game. Personally I disagree with that and I think that Selig has done a number of good things for the game. Also I think that people who dislike him for one reason or another try to pin a lot of problems on him that aren't really his fault.

    As for the good things: You've got inter-league play. I suppose that's not something everyone would call a good thing but I personally like it and I think it has been good for the game in terms of attention and, of course, financially. You've also got the wildcard, which is something I think almost everyone would agree that this has been a good thing; it adds a whole new dimension to the playoff race and the last three World Series winners have all been wildcard teams. He was able to avoid a strike a few years ago and get more revanue sharing and a luxery tax, helping to even things out.

    He's been blamed for stuff that isnt his fault. The most obvious of these was the All-Star game in Milwaukee. Both managers had used all their pitchers - that was their fault, not Selig's. If anyone really thinks this is Selig's fault I have to ask them what they would have done differently to salvige the game. Trying to contract teams was a flop...I dont think it was necessarily a bad idea (though I think the D-Rays and Expoes should have been the ones offered up), but the timing was horrible and trying to contract Minnesota? That's crazy.
    I'd put steroids in this catagory as well. While I suppose Selig could have done more to push for testing earlier being hardline on this issue would have made it more difficult to get a labor contract done and definetly think Fehr is much more to blame in this area.

    I also think that giving home field advantage to whichever leagues wins the all-star game is idiotic.

    Anyhow, it's just that when I look at his record, while I am certianly not amazed, I see that he has done good for the game.

    So I'm curious - am I missing something; is Selig really that bad? Or is he just a scapegoat for some people?
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  • nyisles16
    All Star
    • Apr 2003
    • 8317

    #2
    Re: Is Bud Selig really so bad?

    how can a league have a "commish" that was an owner of one of the teams, then to disolve his interest in it, gives the reigns to his daughter.. he ruined the brewers.. MLB's handling of the Expos/Nationals situation the last few years was an absolute joke as well... he is not very strong as a commish in my opinon

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    • 1StUnA
      Pro
      • Jun 2003
      • 503

      #3
      Re: Is Bud Selig really so bad?

      he's terrible

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      • p2xgamers
        All Star
        • Jul 2002
        • 4735

        #4
        Re: Is Bud Selig really so bad?

        Originally posted by DGetz
        I think that Selig has done a number of good things for the game.
        Yeah, right, like the "super-tough" steroid policy? Oh, right...
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        • BGarrett7
          All Star
          • Jul 2003
          • 5890

          #5
          Re: Is Bud Selig really so bad?

          Originally posted by DGetz
          Is Bud Selig really so bad?
          Yes.

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          • DGetz
            Pro
            • Mar 2004
            • 636

            #6
            Re: Is Bud Selig really so bad?

            Originally posted by hulkster29
            how can a league have a "commish" that was an owner of one of the teams, then to disolve his interest in it, gives the reigns to his daughter.. he ruined the brewers.. MLB's handling of the Expos/Nationals situation the last few years was an absolute joke as well... he is not very strong as a commish in my opinon

            I agree with that, I'd forgotten about himn owning the team at the time - that is absurd. The Expoes situation was terrible as well; being in the DC area at the time, believe me I got sick of it (although I am more frustrated with Angelos than anyone else).

            You make some good points there. Like I said overall I think Selig is mediocre, but I do think he has done some good for the game and has a tendacy to get blamed for things that arent his fault.
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            "The guy was married to Natalie Portman and blew it. I mean, think about it."

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            • DGetz
              Pro
              • Mar 2004
              • 636

              #7
              Re: Is Bud Selig really so bad?

              Originally posted by p2xgamers
              Yeah, right, like the "super-tough" steroid policy? Oh, right...


              Actually I noted his handling of the steroid situation in his list of failures.

              However I think in some ways he gets unjustly blamed for this: Fehr is the one who always pushed for no testing and fewer banned substances. Selig had to deal with him and the union, its not as if Selig had complete unilateral control and could impliment whatever testing and punishment policy he wanted.
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              • SPTO
                binging
                • Feb 2003
                • 68046

                #8
                Re: Is Bud Selig really so bad?

                Any commissioner who has to cancel a championship (or a full season in Gary Bettman's case) is a bad commish IMO.
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                • mickj
                  Pro
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 565

                  #9
                  Re: Is Bud Selig really so bad?

                  Originally posted by SportsmanTO
                  Any commissioner who has to cancel a championship (or a full season in Gary Bettman's case) is a bad commish IMO.
                  I will never ever forgive him for tanking the '94 season. and I know many montreal expos fans will never forgive either. That decision almost made MLB into what the NHL is now.

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                  • nyisles16
                    All Star
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 8317

                    #10
                    Re: Is Bud Selig really so bad?

                    speaking more on the 'Spos point.. he's the commish- he is part of MLB - which owned the 'Spos at the time.. how in the world did it end up that the Expos couldnt call up ANYONE after Sept 1 last year???? you think they would TRY to help out, since, well, they TOOK CONTROL of the team..

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                    • yo136
                      Rookie
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 205

                      #11
                      Re: Is Bud Selig really so bad?

                      I agree that the All Star game was way overblown. He really would have been lit up if he ordered them to play till one team won and a team's closer blew out his arm. Still, Selig is a very weak man, and has conceded more ground to the players association than he should have. I think Jayson Stark has a column summing this all up about a year ago on espn.com.
                      "20 years from now they'll be saying Willis Reed pulled a Curt Schilling." -- Theo Epstein

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                      • sammyc521
                        Pro
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 950

                        #12
                        Re: Is Bud Selig really so bad?

                        Yes...he took away the Seattle Pilots away from us.

                        Only until a court order forced the MLB to give us another Franchise.

                        Personally, I think the Pilots is a better team to that would represent Seattle because of Boeing and the like, but I'm sure the Mariners are much more ingrained in people's heads now, so it won't fly.

                        Also...Selig was and always will be a greasy used-car salesman. Nothing more. The things he's brought to MLB has become stale and only until recently has he tried to make sure his 'innovations' stay innovative.

                        Interleague is interesting up to a point...unless it's CHIC-CHIS or NYY-NYM, I don't think much people care about interleague...this is also coming from a place where the Seattle's interleague-rival is San Diego. That makes no sense at all. And only recently did they actually start to rotate the interleague schedule...and how many people who are fans of AL-DH'ing really want to see their pitcher at the plate at an NL park? I'm sure they get a kick out of it, but the styles are too different and the rosters make them bland.

                        I think for all of his 'innovations' he has turned against the things that made them innovative and allowed them to run stale.

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                        • VanCitySportsGuy
                          NYG_Meth
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 9351

                          #13
                          Re: Is Bud Selig really so bad?

                          Selig's been okay as Commish.

                          Revunue's have never been higher for MLB than under Selig's leadership. But at the same time he hasn't been able to stop the widening gap of payrolls between the top end clubs and the bottom feeders.

                          And we all know what happened in 94.

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                          • p2xgamers
                            All Star
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 4735

                            #14
                            Re: Is Bud Selig really so bad?

                            Selig sucks, that's all that needs to be said.
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                            • MK47
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2004
                              • 348

                              #15
                              Re: Is Bud Selig really so bad?

                              Selig ruined the Expos, cheated taxpayers into building stadiums for teams in a number of markets via lies and false promises, pleaded poverty using cooked books, installed a system which rewarded teams for keeping payroll extraordinarily low and not putting up competitive teams leading to semi-dead franchises in a couple places (why make an effort to compete if you can keep payroll at 35 million and run the team profitably in spite of being eternally non-competitive), ignored steroid issues then came up with ludicrous "solution"...so yeah he really is that bad

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