So at what point will Steinbrenner lose his patience and make a move?

[number 173]

Seeing as the $200+ million Yankees are 10-15 and headed nowhere given the way they are playing, when will Steinbrenner lose his patience and start forcing Cashman to make roster moves? And what roster moves will they be?

[glucklich]

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Seeing as the $200+ million Yankees are 10-15 and headed nowhere given the way they are playing, when will Steinbrenner lose his patience and start forcing Cashman to make roster moves? And what roster moves will they be?

Maybe Mussina or Giambi...but NY would have to eat part of their contract to move them.

[soltrain]

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He is going to have to eat a crapload of cash if he wants to make moves. He has no prospects to give, and no teams are going to take on the salaries he has gathered throughout the years.

[Stu]

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Seeing as the $200+ million Yankees are 10-15 and headed nowhere given the way they are playing, when will Steinbrenner lose his patience and start forcing Cashman to make roster moves? And what roster moves will they be?

I'm not sure the Yankees have any value in their minor league system to make any moves. The only players they'll be able to go after are overpriced veterans who teams dump just to get rid of the salary. I don't think the Yankees need anymore of those. Also, most teams aren't willing to start trading away players until later in the season. The trade deadline isn't until July and you won't see many moves until then. Why would a team who is interested in moving a player do so now when they could wait until the trade deadline where there are more teams interested in trading?

[SPTO]

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Sadly (for Yankee fans) there's basically nothing they can do for the reason Camulos mentioned and also for the fact that no one is gonna want underachieving old guys on their teams. The Yanks have a minor league system in name only right now and to top it off no other team in the Majors are willing to take on the likes of Giambi and Mussina. Those guys have shown that they've lost it completely.

[NYJets]

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Majors are willing to take on the likes of Giambi and Mussina. Those guys have shown that they've lost it completely.

I wouldn't be so quick to say that about Mussina. He's obviously not what he once was, but he pitched well towards the end of last year, and in the playoffs, and he's always been a guy who pitches better in the 2nd half (at least with the Yankees).

[Misfit]

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The Yankees are really only in a position to deal for overpaid players on bad teams. They could potentially get Helton or possibly Dotel if Huston Street proves he can close before the July 31st deadline. They don't need Helton but would benefit from having him, Dotel on the other hand would help a lot since their bullpen has been pretty bad (but I can't see Beane trading with the Yankees). They really need a consistent starter since Pavano, Wright, and Brown have all struggled. I could see some team in need of a starter taking a chance on one of those three (though I think Pavano's job is fairly secure for the time being) if the Yankees pay for most of their contracts. Some teams would probably be interested in Wang and Duncan in exchange for high priced veterans.

If this team is still at or below .500 come the end of May then Steinbrenner will probably start trying to make some moves, whether there are teams who will cooperate remains to be seen.

[DGetz]

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I think that Beane would deal with NY, but I dont think he would want to. Given that, and the fact the their farm system is so depleted, I dont see them coming up with the mostt attractive offer should Dotel go on the block.

[Thrasha]

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I don't really see Dotel going to the Yankees because for one, their minor leagues (from what I've heard/read) are pretty much crap.

And two, no one on the Yankees ML roster really fits in to the A's scheme or payroll

[jt45]

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Georgie Porgie needs to realize that the Yankees problem won't be solved by adding more star quality players, it will be solved by bringing up players from their own system. They need guys that have the desire to win. I think Andy Phillips is the prime example of a player displaying these qualities on their roster.

[3rdAnswer]

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Well Robinson Cano is our 2B now

[BigTim]

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I keep hearing on ESPN1050 here in NYC, that the Yankees are going to try to get Clemens if the Stros are out of in later on in the season.

Everytime I hear this, I try to call them up and ask them who the Yanks would send in return, but can never get on.

Sure Houston wants to shed the payroll, but they arent just going to give someone Clemens.

[Tha Dynasty]

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Obviously the Yankees are not going to be big factor trading wise with no prospects (this point has been pointed out clearly). The only thing they can do is trade away a decent prospect and also send money to the other team. I dont think the A's will trade Huston Street, he is young and that is the kind of player Beane likes. The Yanks will just have to play themselves out of this hole. Cashman needs to find players to fit into their system. They should trade away some of their stars to playoff contention teams and downgrade which can ultimately help them win.

[rsox]

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Obviously the Yankees are not going to be big factor trading wise with no prospects (this point has been pointed out clearly). The only thing they can do is trade away a decent prospect and also send money to the other team. I dont think the A's will trade Huston Street, he is young and that is the kind of player Beane likes. The Yanks will just have to play themselves out of this hole. Cashman needs to find players to fit into their system. They should trade away some of their stars to playoff contention teams and downgrade which can ultimately help them win.

The problem with finding players to fit into their system is they don't have a system. The best Yankee teams were the teams with players like Paul O'Neill, Scott Brosius, Tino Martinez and Joe Girardi, team guys, role players that wanted to win not just collect a check.
Right now there is too much payroll and too many ego's on the Yankees. As several people have said, they have no real prospects so making trades is going to be difficult. Perhaps all the years of George's over spending is starting to catch up with them, on the field instead of at the bank.