**The Official New York Yankees Thread**

[DamnYanks2]

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I was trying to find a way to phrase what I think our issue is but you nailed it on the head: I think we're fine overall but need a lot of work situationally. The at bat that comes to mind is Gary v Kimbrel in Game 4 where he's been wild to the previous batters and you go up there and swing at pitches that could've gotten you to 2-0. He battled back and ended up a few feet away from sending us to Game 5 but there was absolutely no need to dig that hole. Get ahead in the at bat and Kimbrel's whole game plan changes. I'm hoping an offseason to get back healthy will help Gary. A sore groin just seems like the last thing you want to crouch through.

Got Gardy back for the first outfielder off the bench, great skillset for that spot. I feel pretty good defensively with Stanton-Hicks-Judge out there. Still have 3 rotation spots to fill, and decisions to make on Houdini and Britton. I need Chad Green to either figure out his slider or for him to be traded. I can't trust him if he comes back next year with nothing but a fastball again.

I truly believe Sanchez will come back and kill it next year. Combination of injuries and just pure bad luck just killed his stat lines.

That man may have been the most unlucky player in baseball. Seems fitting his last AB was nearly a homerun. Just the kind of season he had. His exit velo was still tops so he was hitting it hard.

Wouldn't surprise me if he hit .270 ish with 40 bombs or more next year.

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[Rocket32]

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If Cleveland is actually interested in moving Kluber then the Yankees better go hard after him. If he’s traded to another team there’s really no excuse for Cashman letting him get away. Kluber is a legit ace and would be by far the best starter available now that Kershaw officially won’t be hitting free agency. A Kluber type pitcher is exactly what the Yankees need. Could put the Yankees over the top.

A rotation of Kluber, Severino, Tanaka, Corbin, Happ or CC or maybe even Jordan Montgomery at some point in the season could get it done. I wouldn’t be complaining if they signed Harper or Machado but I think I’d prefer they sign several players instead. Would love to see them sign Corbin, Brantley, and Andrew Miller, and bring back Robertson.

Most of the improvement offensively needs to happen with what they already have. If the lineup is going to make guys like Porcello and Eovaldi look like Sale and Verlander then adding Harper and/or Machado likely won’t save them.

[Qdiddy]

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If Cleveland is actually interested in moving Kluber then the Yankees better go hard after him. If he’s traded to another team there’s really no excuse for Cashman letting him get away. Kluber is a legit ace and would be by far the best starter available now that Kershaw officially won’t be hitting free agency. A Kluber type pitcher is exactly what the Yankees need. Could put the Yankees over the top.

A rotation of Kluber, Severino, Tanaka, Corbin, Happ or CC or maybe even Jordan Montgomery at some point in the season could get it done. I wouldn’t be complaining if they signed Harper or Machado but I think I’d prefer they sign several players instead. Would love to see them sign Corbin, Brantley, and Andrew Miller, and bring back Robertson.

Most of the improvement offensively needs to happen with what they already have. If the lineup is going to make guys like Porcello and Eovaldi look like Sale and Verlander then adding Harper and/or Machado likely won’t save them.

Kluber would be a good pickup depending what they have to give up for him, he’s 32 and subpar in the playoffs so I definitely wouldn’t give up the farm for him. He is the best available without a doubt at this point.

Kluber, Sevy, Tanaka, Happ, Corbin would be a solid rotation, I honestly think the Yankees should run a 6 man rotation. Tanaka pitches better on long rest and I’m certain Sevy issue has been worn out by end of the season, he’s young and hasn’t developed the stamina in minors he would have normally since he’s in the majors so young.


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[DamnYanks2]

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If Cleveland is actually interested in moving Kluber then the Yankees better go hard after him. If he’s traded to another team there’s really no excuse for Cashman letting him get away. Kluber is a legit ace and would be by far the best starter available now that Kershaw officially won’t be hitting free agency. A Kluber type pitcher is exactly what the Yankees need. Could put the Yankees over the top.

A rotation of Kluber, Severino, Tanaka, Corbin, Happ or CC or maybe even Jordan Montgomery at some point in the season could get it done. I wouldn’t be complaining if they signed Harper or Machado but I think I’d prefer they sign several players instead. Would love to see them sign Corbin, Brantley, and Andrew Miller, and bring back Robertson.

Most of the improvement offensively needs to happen with what they already have. If the lineup is going to make guys like Porcello and Eovaldi look like Sale and Verlander then adding Harper and/or Machado likely won’t save them.

Agreed with most of this. But Harper isn't a short term plug. He's super young and the best is likely to come. These opportunities don't come often and I think it would be a mistake not to pursue him at all.



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[DieHardYankee26]

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Glad we got CC back. Still need 2 (preferably 3 IMO) starters. Would like Happ and Corbin, would love Happ, Corbin, and Kluber/Carrasco but we'll see how the trade market plays out.

Gary working out with Pudge.

Olney says we're out on Harper. There've been a number of reports saying this but I feel like this is fairly reliable. Watching this offseason and preparing a defection to the Nats for a year if this goes how I expect it to. Not supporting Hal in this ****ery.

Oof, just heard a clip with FP Santangelo. Empty threat, don't hate myself that much.

[CMH]

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I know the whole deal is about Harper but if the Yankees signed him it would only be one year of him at 1B. Gardner is not coming back after next season if Harper is in the fold.


As much as I want Clint Frazier to get a shot, he's still an unknown. Get Harper. The Yankees need a big left-handed bat.


But don't get Harper if it means you can't get starters.

[nemesis04]

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Sanchez getting shoulder surgery on non throwing arm. Maybe that had some affect on his hitting. As far as catching I dont have much hope there, I'm just not enamored with his play style.

[DieHardYankee26]

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"The Yankees intend to approach the CBT with a mantra that, two sources told Yahoo Sports, goes something like: We didn't get under it just to blow back past it." - Jeff Passan

Oh I am ****ing fuming. We're approaching lockout or throw the whole sport away territory.

[DamnYanks2]

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"The Yankees intend to approach the CBT with a mantra that, two sources told Yahoo Sports, goes something like: We didn't get under it just to blow back past it." - Jeff Passan

Oh I am ****ing fuming. We're approaching lockout or throw the whole sport away territory.

The Steinbrenner kids just dont have that passion for the Yankees like their father.

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[Sportsforever]

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"The Yankees intend to approach the CBT with a mantra that, two sources told Yahoo Sports, goes something like: We didn't get under it just to blow back past it." - Jeff Passan

Oh I am ****ing fuming. We're approaching lockout or throw the whole sport away territory.

I don't get that....I mean, I know the luxury tax is a pain, but you only pay on the overages, not the entire payroll. If they go over by $20M, they are only paying a % of that $20M. You can't tell me the Yankees as a franchise can't afford that?

[CMH]

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I get the frustration but maybe the idea is to spend money on players worth it, or finding the best value instead of dumping obscene amounts of money for no reason.

Let's not forget it worked one year (2009) out of 15.

Meanwhile the sport is surrounded by teams winning by spending about half what the Yankees spend. The Yankees should focus on actually discovering and developing good talent instead of throwing money at a bunch of thirty year olds.

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[Qdiddy]

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I get the frustration but maybe the idea is to spend money on players worth it, or finding the best value instead of dumping obscene amounts of money for no reason.

Let's not forget it worked one year (2009) out of 15.

Meanwhile the sport is surrounded by teams winning by spending about half what the Yankees spend. The Yankees should focus on actually discovering and developing good talent instead of throwing money at a bunch of thirty year olds.

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Also they will need that money as the young players they have more come up on their first “real” contracts. Judge, Sanchez, Sevy etc are playing for dirt cheap money right now.

People forget the payroll of the glory years didn’t swell because of a ton of high price FA but in the growing cost of resigning the core 4 and some fringe pieces in support

No way in hell would I give Harper $300m+, you can give me all the WAR you want and history will still show that nobody that’s cost that much has won championships, they just handicapped teams from getting better while said player ages and declines


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[DieHardYankee26]

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I get the frustration but maybe the idea is to spend money on players worth it, or finding the best value instead of dumping obscene amounts of money for no reason.

Let's not forget it worked one year (2009) out of 15.

Meanwhile the sport is surrounded by teams winning by spending about half what the Yankees spend. The Yankees should focus on actually discovering and developing good talent instead of throwing money at a bunch of thirty year olds.

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Manny and Bryce are worth it. Beyond that it's not even specifically about them.

Alternate reading of the teams winning aside from the Yankees: the teams that are winning are those that used their market to their advantage. The Cubs went out and signed Lester and Heyward, the Dodgers have gone to back to back World Series and are running a top 3 payroll, the Astros went on the ultimate tanking experiment and were run on a shoestring budget but won the World Series because they went out and got the last piece they needed (Verlander) while we balked on that same deal because we didn't want to go over the luxury tax, and the Red Sox who have like 40 mil in dead money they're paying and had their entire offensive approach upgraded by their big free agent last year.

Beyond all of this, if you're cutting the payroll by 20% then cut the ticket prices by 20%. This is bull****.

[CMH]

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Oh sorry I don't mean to say I don't think Manny and Bryce aren't worth it.

I just mean the Yankees may be trying to say to not expect their payroll to approach $300 mm just for the sake of doing it.

They are going to offer money to Harper and if Boras pushes it too high, they'll move on.

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[MBMavs20]

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I am trying not to get caught up in the Manny and Bryce sweepstakes.

I am in the minority, but I don't think they are good fits for the Yankees right now. Will teams overpay for both of them? I am sure they will. Are they worth the money? Hopefully they will be.

Both guys are young, and maybe that accounts for their immaturity. But they both have a history of injuries and both of them don't hit at all in the playoffs. In 19 post season games, Bryce is hitting .211 and Manny in 23 post season games is hitting .213

Ever since 2002, the Yankees have given out some of the WORST free agent contracts. Jacoby Ellsbury, A.J. Burnett, Carl Pavano, and Alex Rodriguez are just some of the highlights.

The Yankees, if anything, need to shore up their pitching. Offense is not an issue. I would like to see them put the bat on the ball a little more instead of hitting so many home runs, but that's just me.